Whats Your Political Party?

[Theo J]

Trump has not done anything to help this country so far by pissing people off. Do you think it's right for repealing Obamacare and risking the lives of 25 million people?

He's basically saying 'Stop being poor' which is disgusting because not everyone can afford proper healthcare and you know what.

People are that pissed off, The red states that voted for him are protesting in town halls about how TrumpCare will never work. I can go on and on about trump, but the man has absolutely no idea what he's doing. He's been rejected in his 2nd muslim ban by Supreme Court. All he did was take out Iraq from the list and a few other minor tweaks that didn't help anything.

He promised a wall would be built he may build it, BUT he promised in his campaign that Mexico will pay for it and I quote "100%" now it's coming out of our tax, we are the dummies paying for the wall now. I can't believe you people really thought that would work. You can just bully other countries demanding what you want. It's not how it works.

You need to see the big picture on this and look alittle more into what he's doing because all he's doing right now is pissing more and more people off and making us Americans look like fools. He's broken a lot of our rights and so many people in his administration are tied with Russia. And his little "wire tapping" with obama is completely false but he still believes it anyways. Smh the democrats have done nothing but hard work for the past 8 years and it's disgusting how a man who's been in office for 55 days do this much damage

George Bush almost brought us back into a depression, Obama may have just fixed it. And I can tell you a lot of what's going on with trump is just the beginning, he is a joke and a scam artist.

1. There are other alternatives to Obamacare for people who are struggling financially. For example, in the state of California, Medical exists.

2. You are absolutely fucking retarded if you think Trump is going to have that wall built. It would be economically devastating to the country. Which by the way, is the opposite of what he wants to do, which is to strengthen the economy.

3. In his first two months, Trump lowered the United States debt by 12 Billion dollars. That's doing some good contrary to Obama's 200 Billion added to the debt in his first month.

4. Please, provide the evidence of the rights that he has broken. As well as all of the damage that he has caused so far.

 

[BriBoy]

1. There are other alternatives to Obamacare for people who are struggling financially. For example, in the state of California, Medical exists.

2. You are absolutely fucking retarded if you think Trump is going to have that wall built. It would be economically devastating to the country. Which by the way, is the opposite of what he wants to do, which is to strengthen the economy.

3. In his first two months, Trump lowered the United States debt by 12 Billion dollars. That's doing some good contrary to Obama's 200 Billion added to the debt in his first month.

4. Please, provide the evidence of the rights that he has broken. As well as all of the damage that he has caused so far.

To add onto to what Theo J has stated

Trump has not done anything to help this country so far by pissing people off. Do you think it's right for repealing Obamacare and risking the lives of 25 million people?

He's basically saying 'Stop being poor' which is disgusting because not everyone can afford proper healthcare and you know what.

People are that pissed off, The red states that voted for him are protesting in town halls about how TrumpCare will never work. I can go on and on about trump, but the man has absolutely no idea what he's doing. He's been rejected in his 2nd muslim ban by Supreme Court. All he did was take out Iraq from the list and a few other minor tweaks that didn't help anything.

He promised a wall would be built he may build it, BUT he promised in his campaign that Mexico will pay for it and I quote "100%" now it's coming out of our tax, we are the dummies paying for the wall now. I can't believe you people really thought that would work. You can just bully other countries demanding what you want. It's not how it works.

You need to see the big picture on this and look alittle more into what he's doing because all he's doing right now is pissing more and more people off and making us Americans look like fools. He's broken a lot of our rights and so many people in his administration are tied with Russia. And his little "wire tapping" with obama is completely false but he still believes it anyways. Smh the democrats have done nothing but hard work for the past 8 years and it's disgusting how a man who's been in office for 55 days do this much damage

George Bush almost brought us back into a depression, obama may have just fixed it. And I can tell you a lot of what's going on with trump is just the beginning, he is a joke and a scam artist.

I am going to have to disagree with you on many of the points that you have made

The reason being that Supreme Court does not agree with them is because they do not like Trump because he is "draining the swamp" Removing corrupt politicians from Washington. It's disgraceful how much they steal, lie, have innocent people killed.

With the wall being built and how Trump has stated that Mexico is paying for the wall. You have not recently heard him speak about the wall because what he is doing is he is taking in funds that Mexico pays on trading and other income that's brought into the US by Mexico and that money is being used for the wall. He knows they will not straight up give them the money, but he is still using the money that we get from Mexico to build the wall

When you go to sleep at night in your house, or apartment or whatever you may live in. Do you have your doors, windows, car door lock for your own security? Why do you people have alarm systems installed in their houses? Why do people own guns for protection? People take these precautions because the world is crazy, filled with crazy people who want to break into their homes and steal and harm them. That's what he is doing. He is protecting us.

Now information of the appeal and replace of Obama Care
"When we talk about “Obamacare,” we’re talking primarily about the 12.7 million people who are buying individual insurance coverage through state marketplaces or Healthcare.gov. Roughly 60 million people voted for Trump last week, so they can’t all be on Obamacare exchange plans. More than half of all non-elderly Americans still get insurance through work, and premiums on employer-based plans are actually growing more slowly than average. (About a third of Americans are either on Medicare or Medicaid, and the rest are uninsured. Only about 4 percent are on the exchanges.)

Before Obamacare, insurance premiums on the individual market were rising by about 10 percent a year. But, it’s important to note, the cost of any given person’s health plan purchased this way depended on how sick they were. Insurance companies could charge people more if they had cancer, for example, or deny them coverage entirely. Insurers were partly able to keep costs down just by keeping sick people off their plans. Under Obamacare, insurers can’t do that anymore.

In 2014, right after most of the Affordable Care Act sprang into action, a middle-of-the-road plan—the “second-lowest cost silver-level” plan—was between 10 and 21 percent cheaper than a similar plan was before the ACA in 2013. So concluded an analysis published in Health Affairs in July by the economists Loren Adler and Paul Ginsburg, two health-care experts at the Brookings Institution.

Since then, the price of individual-market plans has climbed higher. Health-care prices go up all the time, no matter what. We all wish they didn’t; they do anyway. But in the years since the ACA was implemented, individual-market premiums haven’t been rising as fast as they were before, according to Jonathan Gruber, an economist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

They went up by “35 to 40 percent in the three years before ACA,” Gruber told me. “If you look at the three years since ACA, it’s still below that, including this year.” Source

There are certain parts of Obama care that Trump is wanting to remove, but not everything he is planning on removing.

 

[Theo J]

Spoiler: Some cool videos that you should probably check out

 

[BriBoy]

1. There isn't LOL you may need to research more on that buddy.

2. He promised it in his campaign, you can't back down from that. If you knew he wouldn't make it, why vote for a lier? And raise the economy in what way LOL?

3. Proof?

4. I'm sure you've done your homework. I'm sure you're awear of our constitutional rights, and trump took an honor of the oath and he's broken that with his Muslim ban because what he's done was completely unconstitutional and that is why the Supreme Court has taken it done TWICE. remember the Supreme Court is here to help make sure our rights are protected not broken.

The Supreme Court is still with Obama and Obama's people are still in the position of powers which are targeting Trump to prevent him from working in the country. Such as the Supreme Court.

Spoiler: Three sources about the national debt decreased

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...ecreased-60-billion-since-trump-inauguration/
https://www.rt.com/usa/378613-trump-us-debt-cut/
http://www.snopes.com/media-silence-national-debt-trump/

 

[Theo J]

1. There isn't LOL you may need to research more on that buddy.

2. He promised it in his campaign, you can't back down from that. If you knew he wouldn't make it, why vote for a lier? And raise the economy in what way LOL?

3. Proof?

4. I'm sure you've done your homework. I'm sure you're awear of our constitutional rights, and trump took an honor of the oath and he's broken that with his Muslim ban because what he's done was completely unconstitutional and that is why the Supreme Court has taken it done TWICE. remember the Supreme Court is here to help make sure our rights are protected not broken.

1. How about you take your false facts and shove them up your ass.

2 & 3. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/trump-cuts-us-debt-burden-by-12-billion-in-his-first-month/

4. How was it unconstitutional? Please let me know exactly what part of the constitution he has broken by temporarily denying the amount of immigrants coming into the United States from a few countries labeled as a high security risk?

 

[BriBoy]

It be a lot more helpful if you placed your essay into your own words then copying and pasting, next time just send the source

To start off, just because the Supreme Court does not like trump does not mean anything xD I'm sure you're smart enough to know that.

We're still paying for the wall though LOL that's not what you're understanding. And congress still confirmed that our tax is going towards the wall. So we're still paying for the wall, it may not be fully, but we're still paying for it. Lol.

I'm pretty pissed cause I'm on my phone doing all this so I can't really quote everything correctly Kms

Are you stupid? By not liking someone means something! You don't like Trump. Which means you do not support him. The Supreme Court does not like Trump. Henceforth they do not support him.[DOUBLEPOST=1489986715][/DOUBLEPOST]

Detaining anyone that comes from those countries is completely unconstitutional is this really nazi Germany when you can just hand over your papers and detain anyone you want for no reason at all. And ESPECIALLY when you have green cards too. Not a good excuse for me right now but I'll have to finish the debate off when I'm not on my phone Kms

He only has those countries listed down is because the Obama administration declared them an unsafe status for immigrants who are entering our country through those countries. Why are you not going to have secure checkpoints to get into the country? Why are you going to allow anyone to come into the country? That makes no sense to be open arms with people who want to kill us

 

[Burn]

whether it is trump, or kim jong un, i gotta go with putin

 

[lolSam]

1. There isn't LOL you may need to research more on that buddy.

2. He promised it in his campaign, you can't back down from that. If you knew he wouldn't make it, why vote for a lier? And raise the economy in what way LOL?

3. Proof?

4. I'm sure you've done your homework. I'm sure you're awear of our constitutional rights, and trump took an honor of the oath and he's broken that with his Muslim ban because what he's done was completely unconstitutional and that is why the Supreme Court has taken it done TWICE. remember the Supreme Court is here to help make sure our rights are protected not broken.

you have a brain tumor please search for help.

 

[AdamEdits]

Lol im done i didnt know this would get so much attention.

Also, im republican. You know what else? Im Mexican.

 

[Yeti]

If you like this post you can be the 2nd worst thing [DOUBLEPOST=1489980384][/DOUBLEPOST]
- He is racist and sexist
- He is a businessman, and a horrible politician
- He randomly bans immigrants from 7 countries for dumb reasons
- He is obviously still managing his company, despite what he says
- He gets upset when the media targets him
- He goes crazy over dumb things (nordstrom w/ ivanka for example)

These are just some of the millions of reasons.

Wonderful! Now we can have a debate

1.) "He is a racist and sexist"

Why do you say he's those two things? What specific evidence do you have that he is racist and a sexist

2.) He is a businessman and being a businessman shows experience that he is a very successful man for he has earned billion of dollars

I would disagree with the politician part because he has already done more than President Obama for he has already having congress reforming two budget plans, cut down cost on military equipment, strengthening the borders of the country, cutting down on taxes, executive orders to prevent foreign companies of stealing American jobs, repealing Obama Care that caused millions of people's of middle-class taxes to uprise, creating a new form of health care that's available that will not affect the middle class as Obama care did, but to the more upper classes

3.) Obviously, you are unaware of why President Trump has banned Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen. The reason being for this is 90 day temporarily ban is because they countries have been labeled by the Obama administration as countries that are a threat to the United States of America for her national security that have terrorist coming through the country. Also being that there are no proper checkpoints for people that are entering the country through these countries and we are needing proper venting

4.) He still may be managing his company to a certain extent, but he has done a lot for the country so far. He has had the most done in his first 100 (That have not been reached yet) than any other president. So it's obvious that he isn't doing much with his company

5.) So what if he gets upset if the media is targeting him. They are falsely accusing him of saying things, executive orders, twisting his words and reporting false news. Anyone in that situation would be angry about what the mainstream media is doing to him

6.) That's his daughter which any father would defend his daughter over the mainstream media attacking his family. Such as his youngest son Barron Trump how the mainstream media accused him of being autistic and saying that he's mentally retarded. Any father would defend their family against false accusations

1. What BriBoy said is pretty much correct.

2. There's nothing specifically negative about someone regarding them running a business, if you're referring to how they practice running said businesses then that's a different situation, but you haven't mentioned any. There is the fact that Trump under paid workers for long hours and unfair pay (proven). Still, if you're going to use "he's a businessman" as a negative feature - you need to explain and demonstrate your point, otherwise it's uselessly ignorant.

NOW, regarding him being a bad politician - you still haven't really explained at all even in the slightest detail what is bad about him or any policies Strategical. Also when did America have a last, true, genuine politician as president in the last 30 years?

Although BriBoy you're making ridiculous assumptions, how can you evaluate an investment before it has yet to materialize? "He has already done more than Obama" - again, I'm just going to assume this is hyperbole because otherwise it's just pure ignorance to assume he's done 8 years worth of administrative tasks in a few months.

"Cut down cost on military equipment", by adding an almost additional 60 Billion USD to the Defense Budget. Again this isn't a matter of opinion. It's fact and basic maths, any cost cuts (such as the 5% deal with Lockheed Martin) are at this point irrelevant due to the budget increase that exceeds them in extreme amounts. This wouldn't be a huge deal, but if you haven't realized the USA is in debt for over 20 Trillion dollars. A large portion of which is owed to China.

"Strengthening the borders of the country" - again this is subjective, we cannot tell yet if his changes will effectively "strengthen" the borders when they're still very FAR from even being remotely implemented on the true large scale he has intended.

"cutting down on taxes" - The only taxes that will be cut directly are that of companies and the richest members of society, there is nothing ensuring that these companies re-evaluate their wage basis to accommodate for the extra taxes needed, there is no factual basis to assume that taxes in general will be cut.

Obamacare is bad overall, but has helped millions of people. The simple solution would be to re-arrange Obamacare or dismantle and come up with a fair solution. The new healthcare act will throw millions of people off healthcare and decrease taxes for the richest, as well as increasing debt for the sheer amount of people who won't be able to afford it. If you actually read it, it will decrease taxes for the upper class, not increase.

3. Strategical and BriBoy, neither of you seem to understand this issue - The fact Obama introduced it doesn't prove its effectiveness when the majority of terrorist related deaths in America are from none of those countries, using Obama as a fallback doesn't excuse it either as a diluted policy to act on for the sake of just implementing it - regardless of consequences. Also the vetting process is extremely in depth and even more strict, taking up to 5 years in some cases for informants who helped the USA when you invaded and tore up the Middle East.

4. The fact that he still manages his company is honestly irrelevant, he signed over his company. Once his term ends, he can simply have it resigned to him. It isn't of great difference anyways, whether or not he manages it directly his son can.

5. The media has been spreading extensive lies about Trump to be fair, and he has also in return.

6. I think there's much more important things than a business disagreement regarding his daughter, I can't say his over reactions are surprising in any way either.

 

[lolSam]

Good job on your shit posting skills ! Keep it up !

Good job on your brain tumor

 

[AdamEdits]

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[BriBoy]

As I read chromosones are falling out of me. I might as well sell them, PM ME FOR CHEAP CHROMOSONES!!

What kind of traits are you rocking in those chromosomes though

 

[RaumatiRebel]

I love minecraft kids debating politics. I also love watching people debate something they don't know anything about.