Who's Side Are You On?

[Oreo]

I created this thread with a certain interest in my mind and to settle an argument. Yesterday, a new member by the name of dabobert3031 had commented on a thread (http://www.mc-market.org/threads/193333/). This is what he stated.

What? Why does he care if people disagree on what he said? It's just a reaction that tells other people's opinions. There were 4 disagrees before I disagreed too, and he was asking the original poster

not to leave a disagree, which I thought was weird. Who would care if people disagreed on someone else's opinion. I left a disagree too, because I did not think the account "Oaf" was worth 25-40. A few minutes later, he left a devouch on my profile.

I was really confused, so I asked him why.

Okay, he had a good reason, but I did NOT try to prank him. I replied back, saying that I did not mean to prank him, but he kept arguing.

He kept arguing with me, and trashed me a couple of times...

Remember that the thread had 4 disagrees? I was the fifth, and now there are 11. He left a devouch on every single one of the people's profiles that disliked after me. I don't know why he would be so salty because of an opinion. What really struck me is that every single one of the devouches was because of the users, including I, being "immature." Why would me and other people be "immature" if it wasn't even a prank? A while after, 2 people with the same situation left vouches on my profile, which I appreciated. He then says,

Okay, there is only one thing wrong with that. He devouched me, which makes no sense in this context because I never did any deals with him either. Every time I try to make a point, he just replies with "you are immature" with reasons I already disproved.

In conclusion, I just want to hear the community's opinion on this and see which one of us is right. I'll respect all your opinions on me or Dabobert and keep them in mind. This post means no harm between anyone affected, including me or Dabobert. I hope our argument will come to an end after this. Participating people are also Betawolf4 and Deleted User 36731.

Thank you for reading. tell me if this is the wrong place to post

 

[ethansuda]

He needs to understand that people using "Disagree" on his post are expressing their opinion and they are allowed to do "Disagree" to his post.

 

[Oreo]

it was my own fault that I lashed out at you.

I forgive you.

you, Novial, and Betaworlf14 have in turn been vouching each other and liking the posts that they have made.

I will delete those, and they will delete their reps from my profile too.

you revenged -repped me.

You did deserve the negative rep; stated in the rep.

you left a disagree for a "meme" I have given you

A meme? What?

What annoys me is that you have put. DNDW, we have done no deals, making it invalid, you have no reason to suspect me as suspicious, I've done no deals with anyone, I have not been stalling yours or my time, I have not in any way attempted a scam.

You devouched me, and you seem pretty offending in my eyes. DNDW does not only apply to deals, as I stated before.

and you should just wait to see if my devouch on your profile is deleted.

Same with mine.

 

[Kram]

I am going to state what I think just because I also saw this thread and what happened. My opinion is not affected by the fact that I have worked with Betawolf and Novial.
I personally think his appraisal is absurd and is worth way more than that which I have stated in the actual thread. I don't think it was right to devouch people you haven't worked with. That does go for you too Oreo . I love the fact that baetawolf actually gave him the definition of immature as well. Immature means or at least to me it means you act in a foolish way not thinking about what you are saying and acting in an overall dumb way. Everyone who rated your post disagree doesn't have to be immature. Think about it like this: I can calmly say to you "I personally think that your appraisal of this account is too low and thus I disagree with you" which is a very mature way of saying it. There is also no need to necropost and say that if there is a disagree rating which can summarize that for you.
If there is anything I forgot to say I may add that in a later reply to this thread but that will be later.

 

[Oreo]

if they wanted to "express it" they should of replied with their own answer to the OP's original question.

I explained this many many times to you.

Check the 11 devouches, I left 3

I'm assuming you started devouching after the 4th one, when you made your edit. You devouched the 2 people I mentioned, and you also said to me that you devouched 2 more, so that makes it 5 with me. curious, why didn't you leave a devouch on more?

 

[Oreo]

Also I said that I have devouched 2 other users, besides you, which is three. Please refrain from making up lies.

Betawolf4 , Deleted User 36731 , and 2 more. That's four. The picture is after he left a devouch on the 2 people I mentioned.

 

[Oreo]

Find the 2 more, I dare you.

I don't need to? You said it yourself...

 

[Kram]

Excuse me? I left a devouch on the ones that I believe deserve it.

Deleted User 36731
Betawolf14
You.

If you actually checked, which you didn't, you would of seen.
You have shown that you yourself are a liar.
You also have left a devouch and -rep for me calling you immature.

I believe that this is a sort of a "Rage" thing to do. You said on your profile that you "reported" my devouch, and we will see if it will get removed, you revenged -repped me.

I do agree with you on some parts of your display, and I do believe in some ways that you are correct, it was my own fault that I lashed out at you.

The part that annoys me and will fail to get me to remove it is that you, Deleted User 36731, and Betaworlf14 have in turn been vouching each other and liking the posts that they have made. Just because you have all shown traits of immaturity does not mean that you should Vouch each other.

Let's go on why you are immature, and the others.
Deleted User 36731:
-replies with "Xd" to almost all posts I make, uses "thx m8" and other cancerous abbreviations that are an abomination to the human race.
Betawolf14:
-replies with unintelligent posts and the 14 in his name is most likely his age. Beta also has misspelled many words. Leaving him immature.
Pach (you):
-You have devouch me for a false reason, you left a disagree for a "meme" I have given you the most reasons why and I suggest everyone check mine or his profile for a full story about it.

What annoys me is that you have put. DNDW, we have done no deals, making it invalid, you have no reason to suspect me as suspicious, I've done no deals with anyone, I have not been stalling yours or my time, I have not in any way attempted a scam.

To sum it all up, revenge -repping is immature, and you should just wait to see if my devouch on your profile is deleted.

I want to go through each person you mentioned. Now, remember I have worked with 2 of them making me slightly biased/ Now Deleted User 36731 using abbreviations is fine in my opinion as in chats or messages I have used many abbreviations as that is what they are there for. Saying that they "are an abomination to the human race" insults many people who may be smarter than you (I don't know you so I have stated MAY be"
Betawolf4 - Please explain to me what unintelligent means to you because I cannot counter this without more information on what makes them unintelligent. Now if he is 14 then fine I hope you understand that in the end it may be a marketplace but it is a Minecraft marketplace. Also, misspelling words doesn't make you immature since some people may be in a rush or overall not care to argue and then makes a mistake which in my mind is completely acceptable.
Lastly Oreo I do agree it was wrong of him to devouch you and I don't really understand the rest of what you said so I don't have anything else to state.

 

[Oreo]

There aren't two more. You obviously didn't check, you little "lies" are proving you to be immature.
You also stated that "He has devouched EVERY SINGLE ONE", check please.

Since I can't edit, I'll edit right here. He devouched some of them. And I'm not lying, I didn't check the info on that. (That's on me)

 

[Oreo]

Betawolf: Vouch to make up for that false Devouch vvvvvv, false vouch, wrong spelling.

Like I said, I'll tell them to remove it.

Pach: Basically this entire argument, even though I started it. Pach has been the one that has replied the most and I have felt obligated to reply, which is my own fault. Also for bringing this issue forward to the public when it should just of been resolved on the profile page or PM.

The argument wasn't going anywhere, so I made it public and to also look at other people's opinions on this (and to hopefully end it...). If you feel obligated, then resist it. It shouldn't be that hard if you think one's reasons are not right.

 

[Kram]

Novial: used an abbreviation for each devouch that I left, he would reply with an "xd" and this "Devouch 4 devouching people for no reason xd" "VOUCHY VOUCH VOUCH", and lastly for leaving a disagree rating on every other post I made
Betawolf: Vouch to make up for that false Devouch vvvvvv, false vouch, wrong spelling.
Pach: Basically this entire argument, even though I started it. Pach has been the one that has replied the most and I have felt obligated to reply, which is my own fault. Also for bringing this issue forward to the public when it should just of been resolved on the profile page or PM.

I realize that what I did was childish and I'll be fine with deleting them all once the users have deleted their vouches from each other.

I have absolutely nothing to reply to that. That was honestly a very good reply to what I said. I am glad that you realized the mistakes you made. I am not going to argue on what is immature and what isn't so I am going to leave this conversation here.
Also Oreo you should remove your devouch now since you are online. I will ask Novial and Betawolf to remove their vouches and devouches but I know for a fact neither of them are online now since betawolf has a different timezone and Novial isn't on discord right now.

 

[Oreo]

Also Oreo you should remove your devouch now since you are online.

Did that a few minutes ago. Thank you for notifying me anyways.

I take all responsibility as I said before, it was my own chilidish rage that led me to do this.

Argument settled :tup: Glad I could get this over with. Also if you could remove your false devouch if you haven't already. (and to the other 2 profiles)