That's a little high in my opinion, but at least some host can make living wages off of it, and pay support staff wages even.
A discussion this community needs to have.
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That's a little high in my opinion, but at least some host can make living wages off of it, and pay support staff wages even.
yeah, but no summer or newbie host is making $5k a month... thus making it LEGAL.
In my opinion this isn’t achievable in any way. For a few simples reasons:
Free Market system- Everyone competes with their pricing for whatever price they want to sell for. There is no way to regulate a minimum price that hosts have to sell at.
Cheaper will always be better on a MC forum. Most are kids and are using birthday money to fund a Server for their friends. As long as they remember to make backups, they don’t mind going from host to host as long as they are able to stretch that money.
There will always be that “one company” who sells for a lot cheaper but doesn’t provide the best quality. Clients could care less
Free Market system- Everyone competes with their pricing for whatever price they want to sell for. There is no way to regulate a minimum price that hosts have to sell at.
Cheaper will always be better on a MC forum. Most are kids and are using birthday money to fund a Server for their friends. As long as they remember to make backups, they don’t mind going from host to host as long as they are able to stretch that money.
There will always be that “one company” who sells for a lot cheaper but doesn’t provide the best quality. Clients could care less
This woild be hard to do because if most of the big companies raise the pricing then there will still be these skids opening companies at $1/gb ruining it all.....
It's a very interesting topic to bring up. I guess in some ways there are people out there who aren't looking for quality as they are just playing with a few friends for now and then. I have worked around high end servers for the past few years now and generally some hosts you will find they can go very cheap due to investment in owned hardware. I think it is wrong to say as a community we need to raise our prices, I agree some are very low but if someone is looking for good quality services they should know by now that you should do things right the first time and go with a reliable host which may not be cheap. I guess there are a lot of servers out there that the owners think they can get more resources on a cheap host and they don't look at actual server specifications or get information on what over allocation their host uses (not that most would say anyways for obvious reasons). I would say that most hosts can go so cheap as they over allocate a lot which is definitely not bad in the slightest. I have worked for multi billion dollar companies who over allocate like crazy but they have staff constantly monitoring servers and moving around containers or upgrading servers when needed. I guess over allocation is the main reason hosts make money but you can't have a go at them for slightly overselling resources people don't use. They just need to monitor this and not over do it. As for recommendations, I would say that hosts should have the option to add over allocated services and dedicated services in their plans which allows customers to have somewhat dedicated hardware for a higher price and for budget having a moderately over allocated setup and close monitoring. At the end of the day, if you are complaining about not making funds from Minecraft hosting you should think about the customer more. I understand you may need to pay staff ext but if you aren't making money off a game you shouldn't come to the committee and complain, instead you should branch out your host onto other games or services and increase advertising. In the big world of hosting there are people who have been doing this for most of their life and know what they are doing. With experience you can minimise downtime and eventually start a business which pays for its self easily. You just need to know what you are doing and you have to understand that when you start a new company, like anything, everything takes time to get perfect. As for your host I think there are many ways you could easily improve such as advertising, more active staff and way less downtime. I wish you luck for the future and for your host.
Best regards, Jayden
Best regards, Jayden
If you look closely you'll see that the majority of $1/GB hosts don't last longer than year or they are simply plain bad.
People also need to realize that MC-Market isn't the only place to advertise. Besides servers and staff, the majority of my income goes to adwords, Facebook ads and Twitter ads. It's extremely effective for me and has a high ROI. I stopped advertising on MC-Market a year ago because it's simply not worth investing money or time on here considering the whole hosting section is over saturated and plain bad.
Also, this needs to be looked at: https://www.mc-market.org/threads/250911/
People also need to realize that MC-Market isn't the only place to advertise. Besides servers and staff, the majority of my income goes to adwords, Facebook ads and Twitter ads. It's extremely effective for me and has a high ROI. I stopped advertising on MC-Market a year ago because it's simply not worth investing money or time on here considering the whole hosting section is over saturated and plain bad.
Also, this needs to be looked at: https://www.mc-market.org/threads/250911/
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This is a super good thread,and I totally agree.
If anyone of you know me, I am danish. I have nearly completly moved my company focus towards my home country instead of mc-market / international.
Making the math for a 1GB sale:
22% goes to tax, paypal takes some fees too - Which leaves you with like 0.40 cent.
That may be able to cover your server cost per GB ram, but many (And I wont name them, but I know they do) is overselling their servers to make more room for customers.
If people were able to raise their budget a bit more, it would help not only having more powerful servers - But also the overselling issues. They will actually be able to make a profit.
I think many of the new hosts going into the market doesn't do the math before so. They might be able to cover their server cost. But take the software into that too (WHMCS, Multicraft or if you are really low on budget, people use pterodactyl).
Pterodactyl is very fine! I just think, that some people (If not a majority, but dont take me on this one) likes Multicraft for its simplicity. Pterodactyl can at times for the user that has no idea what they are doing be hard to navigate.
However, conclusion is that I agree on this. Thing is just, there will always be one host that thinks they can do it with their pricing. Let's speak again in two years time
If anyone of you know me, I am danish. I have nearly completly moved my company focus towards my home country instead of mc-market / international.
Making the math for a 1GB sale:
22% goes to tax, paypal takes some fees too - Which leaves you with like 0.40 cent.
That may be able to cover your server cost per GB ram, but many (And I wont name them, but I know they do) is overselling their servers to make more room for customers.
If people were able to raise their budget a bit more, it would help not only having more powerful servers - But also the overselling issues. They will actually be able to make a profit.
I think many of the new hosts going into the market doesn't do the math before so. They might be able to cover their server cost. But take the software into that too (WHMCS, Multicraft or if you are really low on budget, people use pterodactyl).
Pterodactyl is very fine! I just think, that some people (If not a majority, but dont take me on this one) likes Multicraft for its simplicity. Pterodactyl can at times for the user that has no idea what they are doing be hard to navigate.
However, conclusion is that I agree on this. Thing is just, there will always be one host that thinks they can do it with their pricing. Let's speak again in two years time
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I totaly agree with you .
The community was killed .
But i want to talk about hosting and exactly Minecraft hosting and exactly Arabic hosting . Arabic Hosting have a big community a lot of peapole buy from them however their prices are expensive 6$/GB and some of them 6$ per 512MB.
We have a big community and the oldest companys have a Great fame. But they don't have a good & friendly support they just make money for nothing bad quality server but this is only for big and oldest company . Actually we have around 7 Minecraft hosting. But last years we saw 3 new companys with good support and cheap prices and when i say cheap prices not 1$/GB like this community some of them sell for 4$/GB and some 2.5$/GB as we see a big different between oldest company and new companys also we are going to kill this community too . And of course costumers and all of the community are exied and impressed because they didn't see cheap and a good quality hostings . so let's back to this community actually every coming company will be cheap then others and they don't have that big expirence and knowledge in this domain they just want make money and they don't get a longer then year .But 1$/GB don't make any reward for the company
1$ - tax - paypal fees = a little a mount around 0.**$
And of course let's don't talk for that companys who sells for 0.50$ or 0.15
I think 2.5$ per GB was a good price
i propose to put some rules and some lows for hostings companys and exactly for this community we should change this.
(Sorry for my bad English i am working on it)
The community was killed .
But i want to talk about hosting and exactly Minecraft hosting and exactly Arabic hosting . Arabic Hosting have a big community a lot of peapole buy from them however their prices are expensive 6$/GB and some of them 6$ per 512MB.
We have a big community and the oldest companys have a Great fame. But they don't have a good & friendly support they just make money for nothing bad quality server but this is only for big and oldest company . Actually we have around 7 Minecraft hosting. But last years we saw 3 new companys with good support and cheap prices and when i say cheap prices not 1$/GB like this community some of them sell for 4$/GB and some 2.5$/GB as we see a big different between oldest company and new companys also we are going to kill this community too . And of course costumers and all of the community are exied and impressed because they didn't see cheap and a good quality hostings . so let's back to this community actually every coming company will be cheap then others and they don't have that big expirence and knowledge in this domain they just want make money and they don't get a longer then year .But 1$/GB don't make any reward for the company
1$ - tax - paypal fees = a little a mount around 0.**$
And of course let's don't talk for that companys who sells for 0.50$ or 0.15
I think 2.5$ per GB was a good price
i propose to put some rules and some lows for hostings companys and exactly for this community we should change this.
(Sorry for my bad English i am working on it)
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Price has dropped so low and it’s really hard for other companies to keep up with them. Good post.[DOUBLEPOST=1521982824][/DOUBLEPOST]
Just have MCM not let them post here and they won’t get many sales
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I honestly agree with peeVpee,
I mean if a host goes way lower than $1/GB for example, they have to either overallocated to 100-150% on the node or worse just making hosting businesses never break their planned ROI.
I've seen far worst hosts who either sell so cheap that they never care about their billing portal security or even one of their nodes.
Cough Cough you know who you're.
$1.50-$2 ~ Seems reasonable and providing excellent hardware and not overallocated any of your nodes is an excellent business model.
$2 - 3.50 ~ Seems Excellent if you're offering the best customer support and top-notch hardware with full support.
These are my opinions so don't judge me.
I mean if a host goes way lower than $1/GB for example, they have to either overallocated to 100-150% on the node or worse just making hosting businesses never break their planned ROI.
I've seen far worst hosts who either sell so cheap that they never care about their billing portal security or even one of their nodes.
Cough Cough you know who you're.
$1.50-$2 ~ Seems reasonable and providing excellent hardware and not overallocated any of your nodes is an excellent business model.
$2 - 3.50 ~ Seems Excellent if you're offering the best customer support and top-notch hardware with full support.
These are my opinions so don't judge me.
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What? This reply has nothing to do with the post.
I was replying to Himo.
He said --> Administration should participate in this discussion.
Meaning MCM admins and you started talking about system administrators and being fired.
I agree 100%. I got a budget sale from a hosting provider for $6/10GB. Only problem is that the server is laggy, panel is unresponsive, and customer support is bad.
If the prices were $2+ maybe hosts could put more money into fixing the things that matter.
If the prices were $2+ maybe hosts could put more money into fixing the things that matter.
They're probably overallocating or just hosted on a bad hardware.
At least we run on Intel 6700K and never overallocate anything
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