Add a Writing Section

[Andrewx]

As the title already suggests, I believe having a section on "Services" for Writing would be a good addition, as there are a lot of people looking for writers in order to have them create articles, lores, gameplay content or even homework/assignments so a clear, fresh section for this type of business would be perfect.

I don't think there are any cons in promoting creativity and content creators

 

[Mick]

I'd like some more feedback on this idea.

 

[Lucian929]

+1 on this

 

[bt2S5NpQVjX9yGNKJ]

+1 Amazing idea,

Alistair F. Ghast would both agree

 

[alice]

I'd like some more feedback on this idea.

Most of the services in "Other Services" are related to social media boosting, not writing. There is no reason that writing services deserve their own section but other services like social media boosting don't.

Also, while there are indeed a bunch of writing services and homework services, McMarket doesn't really have any "serious" writers in that sense. It's mostly just kids who are overly confident in their writing abilities looking to make a quick buck. I have yet to come across one writing service thread that isn't riddled with grammar mistakes.

We also don't want to encourage children to cheat on their homework by placing emphasis on such sections, and we especially don't want them to fail a course or god forbid get kicked out of school because they came across a "credible" homework service. I am all for tutoring services, though.

 

[Alistair F.]

+1 Amazing idea,

Alistair F. Ghast would both agree

I being an avid writer myself, would have to agree that this would be a nice section to have.

 

[Niteburn]

I don't think this is big enough to have it's own section imo.

 

[Andrewx]

Most of the services in "Other Services" are related to social media boosting, not writing. There is no reason that writing services deserve their own section but other services like social media boosting don't.

Also, while there are indeed a bunch of writing services and homework services, McMarket doesn't really have any "serious" writers in that sense. It's mostly just kids who are overly confident in their writing abilities looking to make a quick buck. I have yet to come across one writing service thread that isn't riddled with grammar mistakes.

We also don't want to encourage children to cheat on their homework by placing emphasis on such sections, and we especially don't want them to fail a course or god forbid get kicked out of school because they came across a "credible" homework service. I am all for tutoring services, though.

Hey, I don't really agree with your point of view ("There is no reason that writing services deserve their own section but other services like social media boosting don't.") Nobody said other promising services should be ditched, but this suggestion is related to Writing as personally I find it very interesting, if anyone believes other types of services deserve their own category then feel free to make a suggestion on that yourself.

Also, nobody said you will find the top professional writers here, but you are exaggerating on the threads being filled with grammar mistakes. Moreover, this suggestion is clearly NOT about encouraging people to cheat on their school work, no idea where you got that from. Indeed, Writers provide help on homework, if requested, as well as countless types of writing, most of them related to Minecraft, such as Staff Apps, Lore, Quests, Articles, Blogs, Announcements etc.

Writing Services don't mean homework services only, with some help on school activity being provided only when clients ask for it specifically. I believe you are reaching when coming to the conclusion that giving Writing its own category would result in children failing courses or getting kicked out of school. Actually, the main purpose of this addition would be to promote creativity, have a place where you can share your work and collect feedback, just to improve yourself. I don't see why we can't support content creators and promote this awesome activity and hobby of so many people.

 

[gap]

+1!!

As a writer myself, this I would love to see.

 

[User]

Think it would be nice, but it'd definitely be one of if not THE smallest section of the site. Lots of uses though; essay writing, staff applications, guides, etc

 

[Zatharel]

Definitely +1 on this.

 

[SethPRG]

A 'writing' section is something that has been needed for a long time. I'd even go a step further and suggest a category for things music/sound design related!

 

[alice]

Hey, I don't really agree with your point of view ("There is no reason that writing services deserve their own section but other services like social media boosting don't.") Nobody said other promising services should be ditched, but this suggestion is related to Writing as personally I find it very interesting, if anyone believes other types of services deserve their own category then feel free to make a suggestion on that yourself.

The section is barely active as it is. Splitting up the "Other Services" section into subforums would not only increase forum clutter but decrease activity in the general section. There are other sections that deserve more attention and their own subforums like Steam and Hypixel.

Also, nobody said you will find the top professional writers here, but you are exaggerating on the threads being filled with grammar mistakes.

No, I don't believe I am. I just took a look at your writing thread, and as expected, it lacks attention to detail and just screams "I'm not particularly good at any of these things, but I'll do anything to make a quick buck."

Your writing thread has multiple errors: comma splices, missing listing commas, excessive usage of pronouns, redundancies, misspellings, lack of detail/lack of portfolio, even basic misspellings like "aproximatively" (it's spelled approximately, BTW) which you can't even be bothered to fix on your thread, either because you don't care or probably because you didn't know (even though it's one of the most common words in the English language).

Serious writers pay massive attention to detail and hate doing something wrong/looking bad. They proofread their work over and over, gradually perfecting and polishing every bit. I'll also never take anyone seriously when they go around yelling "I'm a writer! Contact me!" on threads rather than "I write X, Y, Z. Contact me!" for obvious reasons. They are more concerned about grandstanding than their own work/actual qualifications. No one can possibly be good at writing everything.

Moreover, this suggestion is clearly NOT about encouraging people to cheat on their school work, no idea where you got that from. Writing Services don't mean homework services only, with some help on school activity being provided only when clients ask for it specifically.

Homework services do encourage people to cheat on their schoolwork. And by creating a writing section at all, the forums would be giving more attention to writing services in general, when many writing services (if not most of them) relate to doing someone's homework or essay for them. Most people hire a writing service because they're too lazy to finish their school essay or homework and not necessarily because they need any legitimate work done (lore for a server, blogs, portfolio review, etc), although not to imply that people don't. They do. But there are so many other sections you could add that would be better suited for the forums than a writing section.

 

[Andrewx]

Think it would be nice, but it'd definitely be one of if not THE smallest section of the site. Lots of uses though; essay writing, staff applications, guides, etc

Indeed, even though it is still growing and it is currently not as big as other already established communities on MCM, I believe having its own category will help increase the popularity of this domain as more people will discover how amazing and useful it can be.

The section is barely active as it is. Splitting up the "Other Services" section into subforums would not only increase forum clutter but decrease activity in the general section. There are other sections that deserve more attention and their own subforums like Steam and Hypixel.


No, I don't believe I am. I just took a look at your writing thread, and as expected, it lacks attention to detail and just screams "I'm not particularly good at any of these things, but I'll do anything to make a quick buck."

Your writing thread has multiple errors: comma splices, missing listing commas, excessive usage of pronouns, redundancies, misspellings, lack of detail/lack of portfolio, even basic misspellings like "aproximatively" (it's spelled approximately, BTW) which you can't even be bothered to fix on your thread, either because you don't care or probably because you didn't know (even though it's one of the most common words in the English language).

Serious writers pay massive attention to detail and hate doing something wrong/looking bad. They proofread their work over and over, gradually perfecting and polishing every bit. I'll also never take anyone seriously when they go around yelling "I'm a writer! Contact me!" on threads rather than "I write X, Y, Z. Contact me!" for obvious reasons. They are more concerned about grandstanding than their own work/actual qualifications. No one can possibly be good at writing everything.


Homework services do encourage people to cheat on their schoolwork. And by creating a writing section at all, the forums would be giving more attention to writing services in general, when many writing services (if not most of them) relate to doing someone's homework or essay for them. Most people hire a writing service because they're too lazy to finish their school essay or homework and not necessarily because they need any legitimate work done (lore for a server, blogs, portfolio review, etc), although not to imply that people don't. They do. But there are so many other sections you could add that would be better suited for the forums than a writing section.

Thank you for the heads up regarding the misspelt word and the errors, however, even if some people who do Writing could have a few slight grammatical mistakes and so on, English isn't everyone's mother tongue, thus performing in this domain will only help people learn from their mistakes and improve themselves. After all, writing isn't all about showing off your vocabulary, using fancy words and an academic structure, especially on MCM, while other attributes such as creativity, passion and hard work are important as well.
In category dedicated to Writing, you can also share your work, ask for feedback, help, tips or even Tutoring Sessions, as you suggested above.

As mentioned priorly, some other services may deserve their own category too, so anyone is free to make a suggestion regarding that. Once again, Writing Services are NOT equal to Homework Services, as most of the requests I personally got were related to Minecraft, not school work.

 

[CorruptedGov]

+1!

 

[SethPRG]

Serious writers pay massive attention to detail and hate doing something wrong/looking bad. They proofread their work over and over, gradually perfecting and polishing every bit. I'll also never take anyone seriously when they go around yelling "I'm a writer! Contact me!" on threads rather than, "I write X, Y, Z. Contact me!" for obvious reasons. They are more concerned about grandstanding than their own work/actual qualifications. No one can possibly be good at writing everything.

If you have a problem with people trying to make a "quick buck", then why aren't you complaining about all the mediocre builders, bad developers, unprofessional managers, etc. that lurk in the other forum sections?

Homework services do encourage people to cheat on their schoolwork. And by creating a writing section at all, the forums would be giving more attention to writing services in general, when many writing services (if not most of them) relate to doing someone's homework or essay for them. Most people hire a writing service because they're too lazy to finish their school essay or homework and not necessarily because they need any legitimate work done (lore for a server, blogs, portfolio review, etc), although not to imply that people don't. They do. But there are so many other sections you could add that would be better suited for the forums than a writing section.

This is the Minecraft market, most work here will be steered towards Minecraft, especially so for commissions. There are literally hundreds upon thousands of better solutions and ways to get help with your homework, even more so now with the availability that the internet provides. In fact, most homework helping websites are free to use! Very few people would come here for help, let alone pay someone hard-earned money to do homework assignments. Even if they did, why are you picking on that subject here when there are much bigger fish to tackle *cough slader cough*?

 

[VaneHD]

I would love to see this!

 

[alice]

If you have a problem with people trying to make a "quick buck", then why aren't you complaining about all the mediocre builders, bad developers, unprofessional managers, etc. that lurk in the other forum sections?

I don't have a problem with anyone trying to make a quick buck. I was just making a point that my claim that most writing services are riddled with grammar errors wasn't exaggerated, and that was just one mild reason next to many to avoid adding a Writing Services section. It's also not really fair to compare writing services to programming services or design services because writing services aren't even half as popular.

The thing also is, when you hire a programmer to code an application, the application either does what you want it to or it doesn't. If it doesn't, you have the right to a refund. It's a little different with writing services because chances are, if you're hiring a writer, you don't really know what good writing looks like so the person can send you random subpar work and you wouldn't really even know, even though it might sound good to you.

This is the Minecraft market, most work here will be steered towards Minecraft, especially so for commissions. There are literally hundreds upon thousands of better solutions and ways to get help with your homework, even more so now with the availability that the internet provides. In fact, most homework helping websites are free to use! Very few people would come here for help, let alone pay someone hard-earned money to do homework assignments.

Is that why there are 300+ homework services, twice as much as lore writing services, according to the search function?

Also, most kids who want homework help don't really want help in the sense of being tutored or actually "helped". They just want someone to do their assignment for them or write an essay for them because they're too lazy, which would be considered plagiarism/cheating.

Even if they did, why are you picking on that subject here when there are much bigger fish to tackle *cough slader cough*?

I don't really care that much if someone cheats on their homework. I was just throwing out random reasons to not add a Writing Services section which staff (who try to remain ethical and moral and promote good behavior) might agree with. The prime reason I wouldn't want a writing section is because it would increase forum clutter and reduce activity in some sections even though the "Other Services" section isn't really all that active right now with only ~10 posts a day. Why kill it even more? And there are other sections that deserve more attention right now like a Steam Section which doesn't exist.

 

[Ren]

It would definitely be a great addition to mc-market despite it being the smallest section. +1