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So, we all know there is an occasional problem with impersonators on Skype. Once the toggle is completed, I think all users should be able to use live PMs so that Skype can be eliminated. This would prevent faked logs, and prevent impersonators.
 
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Then add more features for Supreme. There's plenty of XenForo addons to implement as Supreme features.
There's a suggestion area. If it's something doable and something that won't affect the forum in a negative way, we'll do it.[DOUBLEPOST=1466611359][/DOUBLEPOST]
Of course, as always, all of the MCM members (including lots of supremes!) agree, but the staff says no. I thought the community was running it, you would execute things we wanted to see? Live PMs for all would eliminate impersonators and faked logs.
You're being extremely ignorant. I stated obvious reasons above. We're already spending a fortune on a server with a strong infrastructure and enterprise hardware. Upgrading is not really a option at this point.

Instead of complaining about us, why not ask for an alternative? I'm planning to implement a NodeJS facebook chatalike feature in the future.
 

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There's a suggestion area. If it's something doable and something that won't affect the forum in a negative way, we'll do it.[DOUBLEPOST=1466611359][/DOUBLEPOST]
You're being extremely ignorant. I stated obvious reasons above. We're already spending a fortune on a server with a strong infrastructure and enterprise hardware. Upgrading is not really a option at this point.

Instead of complaining about us, why not ask for an alternative? I'm planning to implement a NodeJS facebook chatalike feature in the future.
I asked for live PMs for all. It's obvious the community agrees. I don't really care how it gets done, we just want it done
 
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Regular Members don't deserve to get what we paid for
 

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Regular Members don't deserve to get what we paid for
First of all, you paid for Supreme way before this was implemented. Plus, say that when you have an imposter on skype and a scam report with your name on it
 
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First of all, you paid for Supreme way before this was implemented. Plus, say that when you have an imposter on skype and a scam report with your name on it
And that scam report will be closed asap. I dont use skype for deals unless its with a premium or supreme member anymore(I still use PMs most of the time)
 

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First of all, you paid for Supreme way before this was implemented. Plus, say that when you have an imposter on skype and a scam report with your name on it
I don't see how this is at all a relevant point tbh. Even if hes not a reputable member, he still paid for features. Back when he paid for it, there were features exclusive to supreme that are now available to premium. That there's exclusive features to replace them is a good thing
 

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Yeah let's give all members shoutbox too!!!
It's a supreme feature, this is like giving regular members access to shout box
Not really. It's 1) Eliminating the risk of an impersonator, since you can directly PM on here 2) preventing fake logs/messages in Scam Reports. It's not even close to giving regular members access to shout box. It lets people make deals more efficiently.
 
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Not really. It's 1) Eliminating the risk of an impersonator, since you can directly PM on here 2) preventing fake logs/messages in Scam Reports. It's not even close to giving regular members access to shout box. It lets people make deals more efficiently.
All you need is 1 message to confirm that they're the real person lol, doesn't need to auto update
 

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All you need is 1 message to confirm that they're the real person lol, doesn't need to auto update
But not all know that. we see all the time, even in signatures "PM me here before making a deal" and still, Scam Reports are opened because of imposters. You still fail to address the point that with Skype, logs and messages can easily be modified/faked.
 
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But not all know that. we see all the time, even in signatures "PM me here before making a deal" and still, Scam Reports are opened because of imposters. You still fail to address the point that with Skype, logs and messages can easily be modified/faked.
You're missing a crucial thing here. If you don't know how impersonators function, they contact that user on skype and do the deal there. There is never any communication on the market itself. This means the PM function is never used throughout the entire process. Regardless of if it auto updates impersonation scams are still going to happen. As far as the logs and messages, they can just be screenshotted and then you can't modify them.
 

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You're missing a crucial thing here. If you don't know how impersonators function, they contact that user on skype and do the deal there. There is never any communication on the market itself. This means the PM function is never used throughout the entire process. Regardless of if it auto updates impersonation scams are still going to happen. As far as the logs and messages, they can just be screenshotted and then you can't modify them.
I know that. It would eliminate Skype all together. If people can live PM, then nobody would need to do deals on Skype. As far as logs and messages, haven't you ever heard of Photoshop or GIMP?
 
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I know that. It would eliminate Skype all together. If people can live PM, then nobody would need to do deals on Skype. As far as logs and messages, haven't you ever heard of Photoshop or GIMP?
And how would that work? You cannot simply "eliminate Skype altogether*"
 

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And how would that work? You cannot simply "eliminate Skype altogether*"
Yes you can. It's easy. Add a new rule that Scam Reports for deals completed over Skype would no longer be supported. Advise everyone (Via List Notice) that Live PMs are now available to all, and that deals should be completed through it.
 
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Yes you can. It's easy. Add a new rule that Scam Reports for deals completed over Skype would no longer be supported. Advise everyone (Via List Notice) that Live PMs are now available to all, and that deals should be completed through it.
As Doge has already said, they can't not support a scam just because it was done on Skype etc. They have to go through with all scams lol.
 

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Yes you can. It's easy. Add a new rule that Scam Reports for deals completed over Skype would no longer be supported. Advise everyone (Via List Notice) that Live PMs are now available to all, and that deals should be completed through it.
So you'd basically allow scammers on the site because they used Skype? k

Scam report should be supported, no matter what IM system.
 

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As Doge has already said, they can't not support a scam just because it was done on Skype etc. They have to go through with all scams lol.
So you'd basically allow scammers on the site because they used Skype? k

Scam report should be supported, no matter what IM system.
Alright. I'll refer back to a Scam Report I read against Sloth. It was an imposter on Skype. Case closed, no action taken. Guess what? The scammer got away. Any reputable and legitimate seller/buyer should be fine completing deals via PM. They're both protected should something happen. You can't fake a PM. Now, if nobody is using Skype, the only people possibly trying to deal would be scammers.
 
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