Automatically delete banned users' reputation and resources

[Justis]

Heya,

I suggested the resource section of this suggestion a while back to Bebos in private conversation; however, I'll repeat it now, to the community as well as our new administration.

Resources by banned members are deleted when found by resource moderators.
This is a poor system, and should simply be automated, since the criteria is so obvious, in order to improve consistency in our resources, and avoid having to look back constantly, or rely on user reports to get these removed in a decent time frame.

A schedule should be made which will go through all of the resources of each user who has been banned for; let's say two weeks, and delete them.
This gives users who's accounts have been compromised a chance to get access to their account back before their resources get removed and they have to contact a resource mod to restore them.

As I said, we already remove resources by banned members manually; but in case it's not obvious as to why, it's because downloaders cannot receive product support from them via our website anymore, and since our resources serve only as a platform for other people's business, we cannot 'take the reigns'. Therefore, for our active users' safety, the resources are removed.

Reputation by banned members should also be removed.
Reputation is supposed to be a representation of the community's attitude towards a certain member.
Banned members are no longer any part of our community; and are often removed because of an issue with their attitude.
Clearing the reputation they've given from our community's profiles will result in a more accurate gauge of our current community's feelings towards a certain member; and limit abuse by alts and butt-buddy rep gangs on other members.

Thanks for your time and consideration; happy holidays.

 

[Devon]

No - there is a possibility they get unbanned. Definitely shouldn't be automatic, manual possibly if it is 100% sure they won't be getting an unban.

 

[Justis]

No - there is a possibility they get unbanned. Definitely shouldn't be automatic, manual possibly if it is 100% sure they won't be getting an unban.

I've already accounted for this, as stated in the suggestion.
If someone has been banned for longer than two weeks, I'm sure it's safe to say that the staff team doesn't feel they're going to be unbanned any time soon.
So their resources are bound to be getting deleted manually already, if not automatically by this suggested system.
I've already explained why it's important that this stuff not be kept around forever after a member is banned.

If you don't agree with me on the two weeks timeframe, suggest a better one?

 

[Devon]

I've already accounted for this, as stated in the suggestion.
If someone has been banned for longer than two weeks, I'm sure it's safe to say that the staff team doesn't feel they're going to be unbanned any time soon.
So their resources are bound to be getting deleted manually, if not automatically by this suggested system.
I've already explained why it's important that this stuff not be kept around forever after a member is banned.

If you don't agree with me on the two weeks timeframe, suggest a better one?

Not entirely sure, but Marth was banned for more than two weeks and was able to pay back the user.

 

[Jdsgames]

I would say wait at least a month long period so 99% of details should have been reviewed for any unban reasons. Possibly let it hook into the reason they are banned so Scammers/Ban Evaders/ Etc are banned not Account Compromises.

 

[Jad]

Bit skeptical on the idea of reputation being removed however the resources being removed would only be logical in freeing-up moderators' time.

A user is not always removed from the forum due to their attitude, and their experience with and opinion on a certain user can be valuable to future user's impression on them during a deal. In the case that the reputation left is false or invalid, a moderator can easily remove it.

 

[Jayson]

Or, if you were to do this, instead of deleting all of the user's resources, why not just delete their paid ones.

 

[Hawkk]

They should not be making money off of MCM while they are banned. resources

This is a very valid point

Edit: What the user above me said: keep the free resources, remove the paid ones

 

[Theo J]

As stated above, I think the time should be one month before anything is removed.

And possibly have only ratings removed. Resources can be beneficial to everybody and would only do bad if they were removed, even from a banned user.

However, I do agree that the banned user should not be making money from them anymore. Maybe the profits could go to MC-Market or the price could be changed to free?

But, I do agree that ratings of banned members should be removed.

(In one month of course)

 

[Justis]

Or, if you were to do this, instead of deleting all of the user's resources, why not just delete their paid ones.

This is a very valid point

Edit: What the user above me said: keep the free resources, remove the paid ones

As stated above, I think the time should be one month before anything is removed.

And possibly have only ratings removed. Resources can be beneficial to everybody and would only do bad if they were removed, even from a banned user.

However, I do agree that the banned user should not be making money from them anymore. Maybe the profits could go to MC-Market or the price could be changed to free?

But, I do agree that ratings of banned members should be removed.

(In one month of course)

It is also unfair to be keeping these banned members' products on our site for free after we've taken away their ability to remove it. Nor should we force them to contact us directly by external means or alt accounts in order to request their removal.
No, we delete all resources by banned members so that only those by non-banned members remain.
Besides, we certainly don't want to be promoting or supporting the distribution of banned members' product on our site. Free or paid.

I agree that resources should be removed after two weeks of being banned, but reputation should remain forever. It takes months to gain reputation and if the user for some reason is ever pardoned, they would have to start from scratch.

For example, Justis, remember the time I along with several other notable people were banned by Verringer during the transition in power over to Mick? Also, for the fact that I created a competing marketplace. I was banned for about 2 months as I recall before being unbanned after I agreed to shut down MC-Marketplace.

I'm not comfortable with the whole "Banned members' reputation lasts forever" idea.
As I stated earlier, reputation should be a reflection of a person's "reputation" within our community; as implicitly stated by the very word. Banned members are no longer a part of our community, for valid reasons, and their thoughts on our members, though they may be valid or may not be, should not be used in this gauge.
Though perhaps we can compromise, and simply increase the time it takes for reputation to be removed after a member is banned. I have asked for suggestions to that. I simply threw out two weeks as a starting point. Two months? Eight weeks? I'm open to ideas.

 

[Jdsgames]

I agree that resources should be removed after two weeks of being banned, but reputation should remain forever. It takes months to gain reputation and if the user for some reason is ever pardoned, they would have to start from scratch.

For example, Justis, remember the time I along with several other notable people were banned by Verringer during the transition in power over to Mick? Also, for the fact that I created a competing marketplace. I was banned for about 2 months as I recall before being unbanned after I agreed to shut down MC-Marketplace.

What if we did implement a system however double check if a user's status being banned was valid It seems yours was sketchy at the time. than someone outright scamming / ban evading.

 

[Theo J]

It is also unfair to be keeping these banned members' products on our site for free after we've taken away their ability to remove it. Nor should we force them to contact us directly by external means or alt accounts in order to request their removal.
No, we delete all resources by banned members so that only those by non-banned members remain.
Besides, we certainly don't want to be promoting or supporting the distribution of banned members' product on our site. Free or paid.



I'm not comfortable with the whole "Banned members' reputation lasts forever" idea.
As I stated earlier, reputation should be a reflection of a person's "reputation" within our community; as implicitly stated by the very word. Banned members are no longer a part of our community, for valid reasons, and their thoughts on our members, though they may be valid or may not be, should not be used in this gauge.
Though perhaps we can compromise, and simply increase the time it takes for reputation to be removed after a member is banned. I have asked for suggestions to that. I simply threw out two weeks as a starting point. Two months? Eight weeks? I'm open to ideas.

Good point. Although I do still think that it should be a month rather than two weeks to wait and see if the user will have a chance at being unbanned before deleting the resources and ratings.

 

[Jdsgames]

What is the longest time a person has been banned for that was later exonerated?

If its not an outrageous difference like a year. Might be a good starting point to throw around as to when run the schedule.

 

[Samuel]

I agree to the first bit and disagree with the second bit

 

[Zeiyon]

Personally, a lot of the 'good' resources are by based members.
I have even download some.

So what I suggest is maybe having a separate section for resources by banned members. It only say, download at your own risk.

Again that's just my opinion.

 

[Jdsgames]

Personally, a lot of the 'good' resources are by based members.
I have even download some.

So what I suggest is maybe having a separate section for resources by banned members. It only say, download at your own risk.

Again that's just my opinion.

Wouldn't that put MCM at risk for a takedown notice? Just wondering if it would cause more harm than good?