Ban Shaders or Require Pictures Without Them

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Lets face it. The average player does not have shaders.

The average player uses the default resource pack. That's what they'll see.

Further more: if a build looks good in "Default", it looks good everywhere.

Suggestion: ban shaders altogether (or require each picture with shaders to have a counterpart without them, imo this isn't necessary)
 
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Look, although not everyone uses the shaders mod, if you have the desire and dedication to sell a build one should give both a shaders view and a normal view for users.
 

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Look, although not everyone uses the shaders mod, if you have the desire and dedication to sell a build one should give both a shaders view and a normal view for users.
Why though? The players will see it with the default resource pack. It feels like cheating to dress it up to make it look like something that it isn't.
 

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Why though? The players will see it with the default resource pack. It feels like cheating to dress it up to make it look like something that it isn't.
I mean you really don't have to do it. You'll probably fall behind other builders who give out shader pictures though.
 

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I think more people would agree if you removed the "ban shaders" part.. don't think they are reading it entirely because of that.
Yeah plus there's no reason to ban shaders. It's just taking an extra five minutes to make a look nicer.
 

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I don't find it necessary to ban shaders, however it would be great if a default picture of the build was required.
 

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People do include non shader photos in their builds and if they dont and your interested in buying it just ask.
 

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People do include non shader photos in their builds and if they dont and your interested in buying it just ask.
It still doesn't change the fact that the pictures with shaders are essentially lies to dress up the product. Sure, they look pretty but then you get less than what you see. Imo, anything but the default resource pack shouldn't be allowed, with few exceptions.
 

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It still doesn't change the fact that the pictures with shaders are essentially lies to dress up the product. Sure, they look pretty but then you get less than what you see. Imo, anything but the default resource pack shouldn't be allowed, with few exceptions.
Nah thats just dumb.
 

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This reply truly helped me to understand your viewpoint. Thank you.
Ok Mr. iNeedAnEssayForEveryResponse here I will tell you why its bad.

1: Default pack looks like shit.
2: Shaders makes pictures look nice.
3: Ask the OP for pics without shader.
4: If someone makes a build using a resource pack the pictures might not look as good with default.
 

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It still doesn't change the fact that the pictures with shaders are essentially lies to dress up the product. Sure, they look pretty but then you get less than what you see. Imo, anything but the default resource pack shouldn't be allowed, with few exceptions.
A shader is a lie? I'm pretty sure the shaders wiki is fairly transparent Kappa. Please note the shaders don't change the actual build. May I ask why there's such a fuss over this?
 

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A shader is a lie? I'm pretty sure the shaders wiki is fairly transparent Kappa. Please note the shaders don't change the actual build. May I ask why there's such a fuss over this?
True but the players see it without. To answer your question, I'm bored and find controversial things entertaining. :p[DOUBLEPOST=1459889075][/DOUBLEPOST]
Ok Mr. iNeedAnEssayForEveryResponse here I will tell you why its bad.

1: Default pack looks like shit.
2: Shaders makes pictures look nice.
3: Ask the OP for pics without shader.
4: If someone makes a build using a resource pack the pictures might not look as good with default.
Alright MrIExpectYouToReadMymindWhenISaySomethingMeaningless.

1: not if your build is decent, look at default pics of Wynncraft
2: even though players will see the builds without the shaders
3: why should you have to do that, as opposed to being able to browse through and see them anyway?
4: then the average player will see a crappy looking build in default? This could be an exception though.
 

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There's no reason to ban screenshots with shaders at all. Hell, it makes the build look cooler, which is obviously what the builder is going for. They can include whatever screenshots they want, imo. It obviously attracts buyers.

If you want to see the build with the default resource pack, all you have to do is ask them. In my opinion, there's no reason we need to require this. You can learn to ask on your own, bud. ;)

Did I mention how tedious this would be on moderators?
 

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There's no reason to ban screenshots with shaders at all. Hell, it makes the build look cooler, which is obviously what the builder is going for. They can include whatever screenshots they want, imo. It obviously attracts buyers.

If you want to see the build with the default resource pack, all you have to do is ask them. In my opinion, there's no reason we need to require this. You can learn to ask on your own, bud. ;)

Did I mention how tedious this would be on moderators?

Lets change this into a real world perspective? Would you allow corps to lie about their products because it helps them?

There's no reason to ban products with false claims at all. Hell, it makes the product look cooler, which is obviously what the corporation is going for. They can include whatever lies they want, imo. It obviously attracts buyers.

If you want to see the product without the lies, all you have to do is ask them. In my opinion, there's no reason we need to require this. You can learn to waste your time asking, bud. ;)

> Did I mention how tedious this would be on moderators?
Really?
 
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