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Calling out server hosts on here!
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well sites like webtropia, hetzner sell good cpu dedicated servers with a shit ton of ram for less than 0.6 - 0.5$ /gb for example a i7 5820k with 256gb of ram for just 130 eur on webtropia used by OVSUS or a E5-1650 v3 with 256gb ram for 116 eur on hetzner used by NoLag (not sure if they use this cpu exactly but they use hetzner) so they can use alot of ram and not oversell. if they pay 120 eur for 256gb of ram they are making profit incluiding the licenses and everything.
Pretty impressive you own some of your own hardware not many companys do![DOUBLEPOST=1498351199][/DOUBLEPOST]
Yea but at that point you are selling a dedicated machine is what you mean correct or do I missunderstand?[DOUBLEPOST=1498351333][/DOUBLEPOST]Fire https://dragonnode.net/_errorpages/404.php your dedicated page does not work atm.
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so they rent the dedicated servers there and they pay less than 0.5$/gb so they can offer 1$/gb without overselling sorry if i didnt explained it well my english is kinda trash xd
ovs
just saying ovs is also reselling and they do not have any that i can see for less than $1gb
I only bought it becase it was cheaper. Was either a matter of paying $1,200 now, and $60 monthly. Or reselling at $200ish a month. Works out cheaper in the long run. But you're right not many do. Mostly because buying a server is a big investment. More than most can spend, so they have to resell. Though I know of a few hosts on here that own their own hardware. Mostly for the same reason as me.
A few small things dont work. I mostly do sponsorships (Free hosting) currently, so people can beta test things, while I still get things ready. Main reason i dont really advertise it / post an MCM thread yet.
I think that overall, Minecraft Hosting has gone far downhill due to companies trying to compete by offering lower and lower priced hosting to gain more clients. Now, this forum is mostly made up of the "younger generation". I am almost certain that most of our mothers taught us to save our money and allowances and not to spend. Most members could care less between budget and premium hosting services as long as they pay the least amount possible. This plus the fact that starting Minecraft hosting isn't exactly rocket science nowadays has caused prices to drop below $1 per GB. In any situation, providing a RELIABLE hosting service for $1 per GB is impossible. There simply is not enough income to cover licenses, staff, ddos protection, hosting, backup costs etc. This is especially true for hosts just starting out. Now there are hosts like Ian.D 's companies that already have the infrastructure and equipment to be able to offer lower pricing but in my personal opinion, all companies should be charging above $2.50 per GB.
There is also the fact of the lack of transparency. This is an issue that cannot be solved whether we like it or not. Companies lie about where they host their services, nulled software, DDoS protection limits, who they resell, etc. This is seen in every other company that has a thread. Only yesterday I saw a company that copied LINE for LINE the plans of a major hosting company for services that they supposedly offered themselves. They did not even try to hide the fact and just raised their pricing to be more. This is why a Reputation Rating system was created on these forums. People have to learn to use it to make people aware.
There have been many suggestions to create a vetting system for hosts on MCM but almost all of them discourage the creation of new hosts which is something that no one wants. The only way to go with a reputable company is to do your research. Simple as that.
There is also the fact of the lack of transparency. This is an issue that cannot be solved whether we like it or not. Companies lie about where they host their services, nulled software, DDoS protection limits, who they resell, etc. This is seen in every other company that has a thread. Only yesterday I saw a company that copied LINE for LINE the plans of a major hosting company for services that they supposedly offered themselves. They did not even try to hide the fact and just raised their pricing to be more. This is why a Reputation Rating system was created on these forums. People have to learn to use it to make people aware.
There have been many suggestions to create a vetting system for hosts on MCM but almost all of them discourage the creation of new hosts which is something that no one wants. The only way to go with a reputable company is to do your research. Simple as that.
Where do you guys host your servers? i bet not at your house... like do you rent out of a Data center or just rent off another company and market as your own
There is something called colocation. Basiclly you pay a DC so much a month for your server to be in their DC. Home hosting often doesnt work well, since you need a static IP, some form of DDoS protection, internet speeds faster than that most consumers can get, as well as cooling, noise, redundancy and several other things. That you can only really practically get with a DC.
Also, Everyone is a reseller of something. If you rent a server, you resell the server resources. If you are paying for colocation, you are reselling bandwidth form upstreams. Reselling has a very wide range.
Well, I would say people resell servers because they don't have the budget to own a server or servers. Most companies that start out can't spend 1,200 on a good dedi so that they can say they own their own hardware. Some people on here start a host and it will go down in two months, to be honest, I feel like you should save money and not "start" a host and spend a lot of money into it to just have it go down in one or two months. Starting a good host costs a lot I've spent 1k+ on my host and it adds up quickly.
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I bought two servers here's proof:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/319939671024992256/324024151973036032/video.mov
We colo out of FiberTown Texas
They both have 32 gigs of ram.
We only have one that we are using for Mc hosting and if we need we will connect the other one to not oversell.
I hope you know that not all hosts are horrible and oversell to try and make a profit. the 99% up time for most hosts is good as they try and prove it.
Abstract Hosting:
I bought two servers here's proof:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/319939671024992256/324024151973036032/video.mov
We colo out of FiberTown Texas
They both have 32 gigs of ram.
We only have one that we are using for Mc hosting and if we need we will connect the other one to not oversell.
I hope you know that not all hosts are horrible and oversell to try and make a profit. the 99% up time for most hosts is good as they try and prove it.
There is absolutely no reason for you to be using 8 gigs of ram for that. I've hosted 200 player UHC's on 3 gigs. It's all CPU+ 60 players.
they rent our
Hcf is way less ram intensive than factions servers are but yes I can use even less probably but this server has a cap of 400 players
Are you trying to say that your OVH VPS was took down using some Linode VPSs ?
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So as someone already told.
How people on here does 1USD per GB is quite simple.
You would always have a very low guranteed peek bandwidth. The DDoS protection would be a minimal and as you said you would be using a very shared processor. That could show issues.
However, for the people saying "You can't do that you need to charge atleast 2.5USD".
I cannot tell you how others do. However, our company does not RELY on our Minecraft sales. We're not earning our money there. It's a hobby. Which also makes us able to sell for less. We have owned hardware in a enterprise location (not co-located). The location is owned by our sister company.
The servers we actually have rented and co-located is covered by other factors. For instance: We need to make enough income for a small profit + server monthly fee.
Cheap prices get attention. Alot. And in the end that's what it's about here. Getting attention and getting the word out there. People that have not worked with servers before wont know what they should take. They cannot see the benefit of going with a larger host - When the smaller one offers exactly the same, just cheaper.
Things are just that normally it is an usual summerhost. Ran by teenagers
I think the people with actual hardware on enterprise grade level are just running Minecraft hosting for fun. (On MCM)
There is, I assume also a handful on here making some good money with owned hardware.
So, next up was that a shared CPU is "dog shit"
Well, for the casual gamer blowing up some TNT and using WorldEdit once in a while it's no issue. We went away from buying pre-build HP DL380 g9's after the costs are simply too high for something like Minecraft. Building a server for hosting Minecraft Servers usaully cost around 1200-1500 Eur. This is what we pay per server. Where we only throw in 32GB on those.
I haven't yet tested it myself. However I also think that having too much ram on an underpowered machine is worth nothing when it is filled up.
I hope I kind of helped you on some way
How people on here does 1USD per GB is quite simple.
You would always have a very low guranteed peek bandwidth. The DDoS protection would be a minimal and as you said you would be using a very shared processor. That could show issues.
However, for the people saying "You can't do that you need to charge atleast 2.5USD".
I cannot tell you how others do. However, our company does not RELY on our Minecraft sales. We're not earning our money there. It's a hobby. Which also makes us able to sell for less. We have owned hardware in a enterprise location (not co-located). The location is owned by our sister company.
The servers we actually have rented and co-located is covered by other factors. For instance: We need to make enough income for a small profit + server monthly fee.
Cheap prices get attention. Alot. And in the end that's what it's about here. Getting attention and getting the word out there. People that have not worked with servers before wont know what they should take. They cannot see the benefit of going with a larger host - When the smaller one offers exactly the same, just cheaper.
Things are just that normally it is an usual summerhost. Ran by teenagers
I think the people with actual hardware on enterprise grade level are just running Minecraft hosting for fun. (On MCM)
There is, I assume also a handful on here making some good money with owned hardware.
So, next up was that a shared CPU is "dog shit"
Well, for the casual gamer blowing up some TNT and using WorldEdit once in a while it's no issue. We went away from buying pre-build HP DL380 g9's after the costs are simply too high for something like Minecraft. Building a server for hosting Minecraft Servers usaully cost around 1200-1500 Eur. This is what we pay per server. Where we only throw in 32GB on those.
I haven't yet tested it myself. However I also think that having too much ram on an underpowered machine is worth nothing when it is filled up.
I hope I kind of helped you on some way
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It is understandable how people do $1 per GB. But obviously those hosts never last on the forums. It leaves quality hosts without clients because they always hop between the cheaper hosts that appear and disappear.
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