Change The Reputation System

[James 1]

Hello Mc-M,

I would like to suggest that the reputation system should be changed so that only buyers and sellers can leave reputation on someone based off of actual transactions that occurred. I don't think the current system is working efficiently and as effectively as it was designed to. That being said I think reputation should be based on fact.

Indeed real-life reputation is based off of interactions that you have with other individuals, but this is not a social high archy. This is a business forum in which transactions are constantly occurring. That being said each individual has their own personality whether the individual is considered to be toxic, rude, ignorant, or kind. That shouldn't have an effect on their ability to do business. Negative and false reputation can have harmful and long-lasting effects on a person that is trying to go through with a deal or create a brand or image.

With that being said I don't think rep should be based off of opinions it should be based off of fact. I'd like to suggest that all reputation should be given based on transactions that are done with individuals.

Thank you.

I admit this may seem a little confusing, but I'm not saying you shouldn't submit negative rep on someone who is extremely rude and toxic. I'm saying that you should only be able to if you have done a transaction with the user.

For those that don't like to read.

 

[MTG]

been suggested 50k times but k

 

[Ambrosia]

been suggested 50k times but k

If we keep trying, Mick will change it one day.

 

[lAkjtzAZ0]

That shouldn't have an effect on their ability to do business. Negative and false reputation can have harmful and long-lasting effects on a person that is trying to go through with a deal or create a brand or image.

Does a person or business's reputation in real life in terms of how they treat customers and act, regardless of whether it's in a business sense, have an affect on your decision to buy from them or not? For most people it probably does and on MCM it definitely has an impact on whether or not people want to deal with someone. You can have the best <insert service category here> service but if you're a complete douche when it comes to offering that service, or just in general, I would rather not deal with you. If the rep is false, you can always report it and get it removed if staff deem it to be, in-fact, false.

 

[TrentS]

IF I SEE ONE MORE OF THESE THREADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[James 1]

Does a person or business's reputation in real life in terms of how they treat customers and act, regardless of whether it's in a business sense, have an affect on your decision to buy from them or not? For most people it probably does and on MCM it definitely has an impact on whether or not people want to deal with someone. You can have the best <insert service category here> service but if you're a complete douche when it comes to offering that service, or just in general, I would rather not deal with you. If the rep is false, you can always report it and get it removed if staff deem it to be, in-fact, false.

Yes, and I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm just saying that rep should only be applied if you've done a deal with them.[DOUBLEPOST=1505774393][/DOUBLEPOST]

I dont think this is 100% true, If in real life, I swear at my costumers, and I call them fucking n*ggers. Will my store get a good reputation?

Yes, and I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm just saying that rep should only be applied if you've done a deal with them.

[DOUBLEPOST=1505774912][/DOUBLEPOST]I admit this may seem a little confusing, but I'm not saying you shouldn't submit negitive rep on someone who is extremely rude and toxic. I'm saying that you should only be able to if you have done a transaction with the user.

 

[Ambrosia]

I dont think this is 100% true, If in real life, I swear at my costumers, and I call them fucking n*ggers. Will my store get a good reputation?

Well, let me negative reputation you for swearing, see how stupid that is?

 

[MTG]

I dont think this is 100% true, If in real life, I swear at my costumers, and I call them fucking n*ggers. Will my store get a good reputation?

well this is different p much, if we do it irl, then if you are being toxic to some people outside your store, it shouldnt count same for here, most of people rep is because them talking with each other in shoutbox, completely irrelevant to the business

 

[Mick]

The most stupid thing is actually, the revenge repping... If you neg rep someone there is a 90% chance he will -rep you back

If you have a bad experience with someone, there is a 90% chance that they would have had a bad experience with you too. I don't particularly see what the problem with that is. I have a few negative reputations because other people disagree with my decisions, that doesn't mean that it's invalid either.[DOUBLEPOST=1505778361][/DOUBLEPOST]

Hello Mc-M,

I would like to suggest that the reputation system should be changed so that only buyers and sellers can leave reputation on someone based off of actual transactions that occurred. I don't think the current system is working efficiently and as effectively as it was designed to. That being said I think reputation should be based on fact.

Indeed real-life reputation is based off of interactions that you have with other individuals, but this is not a social high archy. This is a business forum in which transactions are constantly occurring. That being said each individual has their own personality whether the individual is considered to be toxic, rude, ignorant, or kind. That shouldn't have an effect on their ability to do business. Negative and false reputation can have harmful and long-lasting effects on a person that is trying to go through with a deal or create a brand or image.

With that being said I don't think rep should be based off of opinions it should be based off of fact. I'd like to suggest that all reputation should be given based on transactions that are done with individuals.

Thank you.

I admit this may seem a little confusing, but I'm not saying you shouldn't submit negative rep on someone who is extremely rude and toxic. I'm saying that you should only be able to if you have done a transaction with the user.

For those that don't like to read.

This is what our reputation system was at one point. It was only for business deals but it was still being abused and people were still finding it just as bad as our current system. If I'm going to make changes to the system, going from one broken system to another doesn't really sound ideal to me. I'd rather put more thought into it than just having a fix like this which is far from ideal.

 

[Ambrosia]

Mick you can't disagree, it's true.

 

[Mick]

Mick you can't disagree, it's true.

I can and I will! Going from one bad system to another isn't a good way to change thing, even if there are 50 threads made about it.

 

[Ambrosia]

I can and I will! Going from one bad system to another isn't a good way to change thing, even if there are 50 threads made about it.

Okay...

 

[James 1]

I can and I will! Going from one bad system to another isn't a good way to change thing, even if there are 50 threads made about it.

In the red box add a upload proof button. This would be either a video or picture showing that a person received something which proves it was a transaction. It's as simple as that. If they lie, issue some points. Done.

 

[Mick]

In the red box add a upload proof button. This would be either a video or picture showing that a person received something which proves it was a transaction. It's as simple as that. If they lie, issue some points. Done.

And what would we do with all current reputation that's based on opinion?

 

[James 1]

And what would we do with all current reputation that's based on opinion?

Remove it if users decide to report. It would be exactly the same as it's normally done.

 

[Shattered]

I think that having it for business only deals would be a good idea, so I agree with this thread. People are degrading the system with their opinions, false & revenge rep.

But, what about removing the reputation system completely?
Who really reviews another user's reputation before dealing with them? (I know I don't)

I think vouching on a users profile is sufficient enough, and there are no 'reputation system rules' to break as none of them apply.

REPUTATION SYSTEM RULES
The following rules apply to the use of the reputation system on MC-Market
9.1 Do not give reputation which is not constructive and informative. Example: “User is dumb” or “Vouch. Cool guy”.
9.2 Do not accuse members of scamming without linking a scam report on that member which you have started.
9.3 Do not hint, tip, or request a specific reputation rating on yourself or another member.
9.4 Do not use reputation as a currency, reward, or condition.
9.5 Do not abuse the reputation report system. This means you shall not attempt to report reputation unless it violates the above rules. Reputation is otherwise handled by the community, and is there to gauge the community’s opinion of you. If someone has a negative opinion of you, and you wish to improve your reputation, it is your responsibility to improve their opinion of you and therefore your reputation via communication with the reputation author.

Its kind of like we have two places where you can add your thoughts on users, profile pages, and the reputation system. I don't think it makes sense to keep the reputation system. Writing on a users profile page is more beneficial.

Removing the reputation system would remove the 'reputation competition' we have going on with this forum.

As your so called 'reputation' follows you around on the site, users get pretty hurt when they get negative repped.

The reputation system is just another place to moderate, like users profile pages, and it shares most of the common issues and also has a bit more of its own. Removing the system will lift a lot of weight off of the forum's moderators, and there will be less rule breakers as none of these 'reputation system rules' (which not many people are aware of) will apply.

I think the reputation system is a great idea for a business forum, however it isn't working very well with our community.


I guess my suggestion is better than keeping a broken system.

 

[James 1]

I think that having it for business only deals would be a good idea, so I agree with this thread. People are degrading the system with their opinions, false & revenge rep.

But, what about removing the reputation system completely?
Who really reviews another user's reputation before dealing with them? (I know I don't)

I think vouching on a users profile is sufficient enough, and there are no 'reputation system rules' to break as none of them apply.


Its kind of like we have two places where you can add your thoughts on users, profile pages, and the reputation system. I don't think it makes sense to keep the reputation system. Writing on a users profile page is more beneficial.

Removing the reputation system would remove the 'reputation competition' we have going on with this forum.

As your so called 'reputation' follows you around on the site, users get pretty hurt when they get negative repped.

The reputation system is just another place to moderate, like users profile pages, and it shares most of the common issues and also has a bit more of its own. Removing the system will lift a lot of weight off of the forum's moderators, and there will be less rule breakers as none of these 'reputation system rules' (which not many people are aware of) will apply.

I think the reputation system is a great idea for a business forum, however it isn't working very well with our community.

I found a slight issue with the problem though, what happens if someone deletes a negative comment on their profile?

Well I've also got a fix. Make it so only staff can delete comments. Users can also report the comment.[DOUBLEPOST=1505781320][/DOUBLEPOST]

I think that having it for business only deals would be a good idea, so I agree with this thread. People are degrading the system with their opinions, false & revenge rep.

But, what about removing the reputation system completely?
Who really reviews another user's reputation before dealing with them? (I know I don't)

I think vouching on a users profile is sufficient enough, and there are no 'reputation system rules' to break as none of them apply.


Its kind of like we have two places where you can add your thoughts on users, profile pages, and the reputation system. I don't think it makes sense to keep the reputation system. Writing on a users profile page is more beneficial.

Removing the reputation system would remove the 'reputation competition' we have going on with this forum.

As your so called 'reputation' follows you around on the site, users get pretty hurt when they get negative repped.

The reputation system is just another place to moderate, like users profile pages, and it shares most of the common issues and also has a bit more of its own. Removing the system will lift a lot of weight off of the forum's moderators, and there will be less rule breakers as none of these 'reputation system rules' (which not many people are aware of) will apply.

I think the reputation system is a great idea for a business forum, however it isn't working very well with our community.

I think this would be an acceptable solution if nothing else were to be done.