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Justis

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Recently, I created a business account under the name "jroot", for testing permissions, and I came across a few things that disturbed me.

Menu bar

For starters, unlike my premium account's menu bar:
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The regular user account did not have the "Members" list.
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And when attempting to directly access this form via url, I was presented with the "
You do not have permission to view this page or perform this action." error.

The ability to search for other members was not listed as something granted to premium+ only.
https://gyazo.com/95b878831db28fbae0c866d3f26da399
Nor should it be.
Every user deserves the right to search and find the member they wish to contact without having to dig through countless old threads they may or may not have posted on, trying to find them.
This is an essential permission for users to have. It makes business/communication on the site possible.

Lightbulb
I'd just like to take this moment and point out that the lightbulb on the far righthand corner of the premium menu bar redirects to the "You do not have permission to view this page or perform this action." page.
The only options on the menu bar should be ones usable by that member.
It's only logical.
(So either return permission to switch themes with it, or remove it?)


Profile Privacy
This issue is what I originally intended to verify by making another account... And is by far the biggest, for me, that I've listed.

Currently, users have the ability to choose who can view certain details on their account...
That's fine, only there's this one option which removes all access, to everything...

4e2f198fa6a1c599e70aaa3a85e160af.png

Unchecking the box, or using the dropdown to switch the default "All Visitors" to "People You Follow Only" will disable normal users from viewing anything on your profile page.
Why is this a problem?
Because among the things this disables is the ability to look at past posts this user has made.

On a site where reputation is constantly under debate, and ratings mean nothing... The only sure fire way to get to know who you're dealing with is to read through posts they've made in the past, and determine what kind of user they are.

Members need to be held accountable for what they say.
Allowing them to disable users' permissions to view their past posts means they can make false scam reports on everyone they deal with, they can trash threads, they can make fake giveaways/auctions, they can farm ratings, or simply display their idiocy..... And the moment those threads hit the archives, they're in the clear from you digging it up and finding the truth.
Information like this should not, cannot be repressed.
It is vital to the security of the members of this site.
 
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lmao +1
 

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I agree with this, I never knew they can't even search for members.
 

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The Lightbulb icon for Premium members is to change the theme from light to dark or vice versa.
And after the three days down time and upgrade of XenForo that we had, we somehow lost permission to the theme switcher.

I'm not sure if this is a bug from the upgrade or our permissions were taken away.
Either way, I'm stuck on the dark theme without the option or permission to switch back to back.
 

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Funny how its been up for a few hours and a staff member has not bothered to explain.
 

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Funny how its been up for a few hours and a staff member has not bothered to explain.
There is so much stuff for staff to do...
From what I've seen, they usually wait until it's time to archive it before responding to suggestion threads.
Two birds, one stone...
Plus it allows the community to provide feedback on whatever was said, first.
Three birds.
 

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Hello,

I'm will fight this with you guys. This isn't how it should be but I believe it is a mistake. I pray to God it's a mistake.

Kind regards,
Jamie J M
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Recently, I created a business account under the name "jroot", for testing permissions, and I came across a few things that disturbed me.

Menu bar

For starters, unlike my premium account's menu bar:
3a1fa8129d360709baf2ea6f6e5ab9dc.png

The regular user account did not have the "Members" list.
4334ec2082ad9fc0d5c9b3b1585b695b.png

And when attempting to directly access this form via url, I was presented with the "
You do not have permission to view this page or perform this action." error.

The ability to search for other members was not listed as something granted to premium+ only.
https://gyazo.com/95b878831db28fbae0c866d3f26da399
Nor should it be.
Every user deserves the right to search and find the member they wish to contact without having to dig through countless old threads they may or may not have posted on, trying to find them.
This is an essential permission for users to have. It makes business/communication on the site possible.

Lightbulb
I'd just like to take this moment and point out that the lightbulb on the far righthand corner of the premium menu bar redirects to the "You do not have permission to view this page or perform this action." page.
The only options on the menu bar should be ones usable by that member.
It's only logical.
(So either return permission to switch themes with it, or remove it?)


Profile Privacy
This issue is what I originally intended to verify by making another account... And is by far the biggest, for me, that I've listed.

Currently, users have the ability to choose who can view certain details on their account...
That's fine, only there's this one option which removes all access, to everything...

4e2f198fa6a1c599e70aaa3a85e160af.png

Unchecking the box, or using the dropdown to switch the default "All Visitors" to "People You Follow Only" will disable normal users from viewing anything on your profile page.
Why is this a problem?
Because among the things this disables is the ability to look at past posts this user has made.

On a site where reputation is constantly under debate, and ratings mean nothing... The only sure fire way to get to know who you're dealing with is to read through posts they've made in the past, and determine what kind of user they are.

Members need to be held accountable for what they say.
Allowing them to disable users' permissions to view their past posts means they can make false scam reports on everyone they deal with, they can trash threads, they can make fake giveaways/auctions, they can farm ratings, or simply display their idiocy..... And the moment those threads hit the archives, they're in the clear from you digging it up and finding the truth.
Information like this should not, cannot be repressed.
It is vital to the security of the members of this site.

The reasons why these permissions are slightly broken is due to the addition of new permission nodes in xenForo 1.5.3. Now everyone can see the members tab and we will work on fixing the privacy and lightbulb theme changer. Until the lightbulb is fixed, you can change your theme by scrolling to the bottom and click the text just above 'About Us'.
 

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Random Question, why does your signature say "MC-Market Owner"? ..I don't understand why everyone puts "MC-Market *Service*" inside their signature, like no one will notice they are literally on mc-market .-.
I do not know, but you do it too:
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:)
 
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