Exposing MCSniper.co / Lyphiard

[34010]

If you don't get what the video actually wants to show, then I'll make a longer explanation.​

Alright, so Sheep1 wanted to rip off Skill by changing the name of knife and transfering it. He did change the name and deleted the account I think, then he bought snipes on both Chearful.ninja and MCSniper.co. Now, Lyphiard randomly decided to contact Sheep1 1 day before the name dropped to ask him if he is transfering it, he said yes, he was transfering it on a TID account, not a giftcode so Lyphiard decided to take the snipe for himself (basically reselling snipes) and to GC snipe it. After he did that he then posted the thread to sell it, and he sold Knife to Misaki. Now Sheep was completely ripped off as his snipe was literally stolen by Lyphiard. This didn't only happen to Knife, but Sentry and other snipes too (according to Boi)

Not only that, but he falsely advertise their sniper as the "quickest" and "with a 95% current success rate". He never specified that the "current success rate" is the success rate of the last week. He should instead specify the TOTAL success rate. He also didn't consider the invalid snipes of Chearful.ninja or the deleted snipes *cough* Blockgame *cough* Ninja1 I'm still mad at you.

TL;DR: He steals snipes if they aren't giftcode snipes/transfers & he falsely advertises his sniper.

EDIT: Just a small update, around the same thing happened to Glove (Glory).
Lyphiard never learns.

Chearful

 

[Marth]

Lol, this thread is stupid.

You haven't exposed anyone. It is already known that Lyph and Chearful/Ninja *occasionally override snipes, not because they want to, but because it's the most logical thing to do. There are many user complications that may factor into the decisions made. . . Keep in mind that these snipers have major expenses and they're not going to let names worth hundreds go for nothing. Also, adding on to what Lyph said, acts are done to preserve rep as well.

 

[Lyphiard]

I love how you're taking a one-sided approach to this.

TL;DR: He steals snipes if they aren't giftcode snipes/transfers​

I don't. I've done dozens of transfers before on accounts where the owner was sniping it on a TID account. The main difference here was that Sheep1 was sniping it with a TID account on MCSniper, and a giftcode with Chearful.

Now, Lyphiard randomly decided to contact Sheep1 1 day before the name dropped to ask him if he is transfering it, he said yes, he was transfering it on a TID account, not a giftcode so Lyphiard decided to take the snipe for himself (basically reselling snipes) and to GC snipe it. After he did that he then posted the thread to sell it, and he sold Knife to Misaki. Now Sheep was completely ripped off as his snipe was literally stolen by Lyphiard.​

You forgot to mention how Sheep1 had decided to use a giftcode with Chearful/Ninja. If you don't already know, the chances of a giftcode snipe succeeding are much higher than that of a normal snipe.

I contacted Sheep1 to give him the opportunity to giftcode the snipe with me as well. However, he started to ignore my messages, so I decided to giftcode the name to prevent losing out on an OG.

Spoiler: Screenshots

It's entirely Sheep1's fault that he did not contact me to arrange the transfer beforehand. If he had done so, like dozens of other people had, there would have been no issues. I was even nice enough to go out of my way to reach out to him to ask if he'd like to giftcode the name, but he ignored me. That's entirely his issue, and you shouldn't be blaming his incompetence on me.

 

[YosemiteOG]

thats not nice

 

[34010]

I love how you're taking a one-sided approach to this.


I don't. I've done dozens of transfers before on accounts where the owner was sniping it on a TID account. The main difference here was that Sheep1 was sniping it with a TID account on MCSniper, and a giftcode with Chearful.



You forgot to mention how Sheep1 had decided to use a giftcode with Chearful/Ninja. If you don't already know, the chances of a giftcode snipe succeeding are much higher than that of a normal snipe.

I contacted Sheep1 to give him the opportunity to giftcode the snipe with me as well. However, he started to ignore my messages, so I decided to giftcode the name to prevent losing out on an OG.

Spoiler: Screenshots

It's entirely Sheep1's fault that he did not contact me to arrange the transfer beforehand. If he had done so, like dozens of other people had, there would have been no issues. I was even nice enough to go out of my way to reach out to him to ask if he'd like to giftcode the name, but he ignored me. That's entirely his issue, and you shouldn't be blaming his incompetence on me.

His Paypal was literally limited, and it was his choice to use an account. You didn't have to get the snipe for yourself because of that to "prevent losing an og". He would've got the name either way, using either Chearful or MCSniper. That was his choice.[DOUBLEPOST=1488696222][/DOUBLEPOST]Now you stole the snipe and took it for yourself. Don't you think Sheep got ripped off?

 

[Lyphiard]

His Paypal was literally limited, and it was his choice to use an account. You didn't have to get the snipe for yourself because of that to "prevent losing an og". He would've got the name either way, using either Chearful or MCSniper. That was his choice.

And why didn't he tell me that?

When I said "prevent losing an og", I meant to prevent my sniper from failing a name and a competitor getting it. If he had told me his financial circumstances, I would have happily worked with him. I'm not fond of "stealing" name transfers, but at the end of the day, I'm not going to have a competitor gain an advantage on me because he didn't want to reply.

I made every effort to contact him to give him the snipe, but it was his choice not to respond to my messages. So, I decided to giftcode it to prevent losing. That is my choice.

 

[34010]

And why didn't he tell me that?

When I said "prevent losing an og", I meant to prevent my sniper from failing a name and a competitor getting it. If he had told me his financial circumstances, I would have happily worked with him. I'm not fond of "stealing" name transfers, but at the end of the day, I'm not going to have a competitor gain an advantage on me because he didn't want to reply.

I made every effort to contact him to give him the snipe, but it was his choice not to respond to my messages. So, I decided to giftcode it to prevent losing. That is my choice.

Think of it, yes, you would've most likely lost, but compare 1 loss with 1 unhappy customer. I can't really tell why he stopped replying but maybe he had something IRL, I don't know. It was a transfer anyway so a loss wouldn't really do you any bad. If it was an actual competition as in 1 has the name on mcsniper and 1 on chearful then maybe.
Think of your sniper as business and making your customers happy, not of the win.

 

[Lyphiard]

It was a transfer anyway so a loss wouldn't really do you any bad. If it was an actual competition as in 1 has the name on mcsniper and 1 on chearful then maybe.
Think of your sniper as business and making your customers happy, not of the win.

Not exactly.

People are extremely ignorant these days. While maybe a select group of people will know that this was a transfer, 90% of people will just view it plainly as another name dropping. They care about who got the name.

Chearful and Ninja's sniper has a competitive edge in the sense that they are newer and have less history involved. Having them win a snipe against me has a far greater impact than me winning a snipe against them. From a business perspective, I did what I had to do to keep my business running.

You don't actually have the right to do that. o_o

I have every right to do that.

By changing your name, you've made it so that anyone in the world can have a chance at getting it. I have no obligation to give the snipe to Sheep1 just because he's the one who wants to transfer it. By transferring a name, you've got to accept the risk that you may not actually get the name.

If me and Sheep1 had previously arranged a deal on the snipe, then I stole it for myself, then I'd understand where you're coming from, but there was no prior communication between us. Was what I did a bit unethical? Maybe. But certainly not "wrong" in any sense.

 

[34010]

Not exactly.

People are extremely ignorant these days. While maybe a select group of people will know that this was a transfer, 90% of people will just view it plainly as another name dropping. They care about who got the name.

Chearful and Ninja's sniper has a competitive edge in the sense that they are newer and have less history involved. Having them win a snipe against me has a far greater impact than me winning a snipe against them. From a business perspective, I did what I had to do to keep my business running.


I have every right to do that.

By changing your name, you've made it so that anyone in the world can have a chance at getting it. I have no obligation to give the snipe to Sheep1 just because he's the one who wants to transfer it. By transferring a name, you've got to accept the risk that you may not actually get the name.

If me and Sheep1 had previously arranged a deal on the snipe, then I stole it for myself, then I'd understand where you're coming from, but there was no prior communication between us. Was what I did a bit unethical? Maybe. But certainly not "wrong" in any sense.

1 loss does not simply destroy your business.

 

[Lyphiard]

1 loss does not simply destroy your business.

It won't, but why should I yield to a competitor because of Sheep1's incompetence at contacting and communicating with me?

 

[34010]

It won't, but why should I yield to a competitor because of Sheep1's incompetence at contacting and communicating with me?

It's just one loss. You would've lost because Sheep used a TID account and not a Giftcode and I get it, Giftcode snipes are faster.
You however decide to not help him out but rip him off. I know, he didn't contact you and bullshit, but that's how he wanted it to be anyway, him getting the name. He didn't care about the business side of it, and honestly 90% of the people who use snipers don't care about it.
You say the loss would rip your business off, however I think this rips your business off more. This move you decided to do not only on Sheep, but on others. You could've left it how it was, making everyone happy, but you instead cared more about the win than about the customer. That's my point.
A loss won't rip your business off, and it won't really affect it too much, it would just take a matter of a few days for everyone to forget it.

 

[Lyphiard]

It's just one loss. You would've lost because Sheep used a TID account and not a Giftcode and I get it, Giftcode snipes are faster.
You however decide to not help him out but rip him off. I know, he didn't contact you and bullshit, but that's how he wanted it to be anyway, him getting the name. He didn't care about the business side of it, and honestly 90% of the people who use snipers don't care about it.
You say the loss would rip your business off, however I think this rips your business off more. This move you decided to do not only on Sheep, but on others. You could've left it how it was, making everyone happy, but you instead cared more about the win than about the customer. That's my point.
A loss won't rip your business off, and it won't really affect it too much, it would just take a matter of a few days for everyone to forget it.

If he cared about getting the name, he should have contacted me beforehand.

When you say "90% of the people who use snipers don't care about it", I agree with you. 90% of the people are going to look at a sniper's history, and be like: "Failed OG name knife? shit sniper". They're not going to go investigate in detail and look thorough the whole situation.

 

[34010]

If he cared about getting the name, he should have contacted me beforehand.

When you say "90% of the people who use snipers don't care about it", I agree with you. 90% of the people are going to look at a sniper's history, and be like: "Failed OG name knife? shit sniper". They're not going to go investigate in detail and look thorough the whole situation.

You realise most of your sniper's customers come from MC-Market, right? Most of MCM's users know that your sniper and chearful.ninja are the best ones, and obviously they use it, hence why every good name on your sniper is taken almost every time.[DOUBLEPOST=1488698547][/DOUBLEPOST]^ edited the post realised I said "your snipers are the best ones" lol

 

[Lyphiard]

You realise most of your sniper's customers come from MC-Market, right? Most of MCM's users know that your snipers are the best ones, and obviously they use it, hence why every good name on your sniper is taken almost every time.

No, most of my sniper's customers come from Google, which can be confirmed by analytics. They are mostly all ignorant 12-year old kids who can only see into the surface of something as complicated as this.

Only 16.8% of my traffic is from referrals, and of that 16.8%, only about 7% is from MC-Market. The majority of my traffic comes from organic search (aka google).

 

[34010]

No, most of my sniper's customers come from Google, which can be confirmed by analytics. They are mostly all ignorant 12-year old kids who can only see into the surface of something as complicated as this.

Only 16.8% of my traffic is from referrals, and of that 16.8%, only about 7% is from MC-Market. The majority of my traffic comes from organic search (aka google).

Some of the direct ones come from MC-Market too, but yeah, you have a good point. HOWEVER you said it yourself they are ignorant. They would just look at the first page of the website, see what names you got and just buy a snipe and snipe with you.[DOUBLEPOST=1488698878][/DOUBLEPOST]They won't further investigate to see your losses.[DOUBLEPOST=1488698924][/DOUBLEPOST]Also your clickbaity "95% current success rate" comes in play too, so it helps out your sniper.

 

[Adrenalize]

I personally searched names up of my sniper I'm using (chearful.ninja) so google might account for that. Sometimes people don't post the direct link so we google it

 

[Lyphiard]

Some of the direct ones come from MC-Market too, but yeah, you have a good point. HOWEVER you said it yourself they are ignorant. They would just look at the first page of the website, see what names you got and just buy a snipe and snipe with you.[DOUBLEPOST=1488698878][/DOUBLEPOST]They won't further investigate to see your losses.[DOUBLEPOST=1488698924][/DOUBLEPOST]Also your clickbaity "95% current success rate" comes in play too, so it helps out your sniper.

I still would rather not unnecessarily fail a snipe.

The argument at this point is getting redundant. It's all about whether I should have handled this situation through a business or moral perspective. Unless you have any further arguments, I think it's best to leave this as-is and have users decide who was right/wrong.

 

[34010]

I still would rather not unnecessarily fail a snipe.

The argument at this point is getting redundant. It's all about whether I should have handled this situation through a business or moral perspective. Unless you have any further arguments, I think it's best to leave this as-is and have users decide who was right/wrong.

This is the only time I agree with one of your posts.
For real now, okay.[DOUBLEPOST=1488700261][/DOUBLEPOST]

They are mostly all ignorant 12-year old kids

btw nice way to call/treat your customers.
*drops mic*