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I’ve had a talk with Careful.
Careful has admitted to have attempted scamming a user’s account two years ago. After having done that first mistake, he states having tried again, but has paid the user double the price two weeks after having scammed him as compentation.

He was very clear to me that none should ask for him to be unbanned, but there is a huge flaw in this issue.

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The scam was 2 years ago, people change, their personality change. For when he paid back the specific user double the amount, that proves that his guilt cannot hold and that scamming would basically rip him from the inside.

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No MC-Market policy states that scamming attempts before registering the website and with no scam reports opened on the user should result in a ban of that person in question. He attempted scamming twice, and payback double on the second time. No one got hurt, got scammed or whatsoever. It all ended up in a good resolution.

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He didn’t even ask to be banned. He was guilty and admitted it, and then hoped to move on. Justis instead stabbed in the wound of that regretful episode and banned him for a mistake. He regrets it, someone who didn’t regret it would have forgotten and never admitted anything. Oscar is a good man, he doesn’t deserve this punishment

Edit: He did say that if necessary, he would take the ban. He understood that Justis needed to do his job but life has exceptions, and we need this to be an exception.

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Why is everyone acting like he died[DOUBLEPOST=1532022429][/DOUBLEPOST]Sounds exactly like the RIP X threads "RIP" "RIP a Legend"
 
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Why is everyone acting like he died[DOUBLEPOST=1532022429][/DOUBLEPOST]Sounds exactly like the RIP X threads "RIP" "RIP a Legend"
Cause he's a good man and he's helped many many people on this site. Banning him for something he already will never do again is just detrimental to the site because of the amount of support he has given users.
 

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I’ve had a talk with Careful.
Careful has admitted to have attempted scamming a user’s account two years ago. After having done that first mistake, he states having tried again, but has paid the user double the price two weeks after having scammed him as compentation.

He was very clear to me that none should ask for him to be unbanned, but there is a huge flaw in this issue.

1)
The scam was 2 years ago, people change, their personality change. For when he paid back the specific user double the amount, that proves that his guilt cannot hold and that scamming would basically rip him from the inside.

2)
No MC-Market policy states that scamming attempts before registering the website and with no scam reports opened on the user should result in a ban of that person in question. He attempted scamming twice, and payback double on the second time. No one got hurt, got scammed or whatsoever. It all ended up in a good resolution.

3)
He didn’t even ask to be banned. He was guilty and admitted it, and then hoped to move on. Justis instead stabbed in the wound of that regretful episode and banned him for a mistake. He regrets it, someone who didn’t regret it would have forgotten and never admitted anything. Oscar is a good man, he doesn’t deserve this punishment

Edit: He did say that if necessary, he would take the ban. He understood that Justis needed to do his job but life has exceptions, and we need this to be an exception.

Regards,
Ghast
With that logic, I made a friend on another site who’s been banned here for a couple years because he scammed someone. He has since offered to pay that user back and the offer was declined however his ban appeal was denied. He too should be unbanned with your reasoning.
 

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With that logic, I made a friend on another site who’s been banned here for a couple years because he scammed someone. He has since offered to pay that user back and the offer was declined however his ban appeal was denied. He too should be unbanned with your reasoning.
If he offered to pay it back he should actually lol[DOUBLEPOST=1532107396][/DOUBLEPOST]Also Careful paid the user back. So in the end he didn't really scam
 
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If he offered to pay it back he should actually lol[DOUBLEPOST=1532107396][/DOUBLEPOST]Also Careful paid the user back. So in the end he didn't really scam
He wasn't unbanned which shows how the system works. Even if you try to compensate, you're considered a scammer. Once a scammer, always a scammer.
 

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He wasn't unbanned which shows how the system works. Even if you try to compensate, you're considered a scammer. Once a scammer, always a scammer.
If you can’t even be honest now, what would this world become?
 

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If you can’t even be honest now, what would this world become?
I'm not sure what this even means..my post that said 'once a scammer always a scammer' was just highlighting the logic of the staff. I don't agree with it considering I'm good friends with that person who's been denied access to this site for years even after trying to compensate. I don't know the whole situation with careful but from what I had seen, he was banned for attempting to scam someone. Nothing against him. I didn't realize the situation happened years ago as he was just banned the other day.
 
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