How I Make ~0.002 BTC (~$5.65 as of 10-June-2017) Every Day

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I figured I'd post a little update since this thread was first posted over a month ago.

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#1: I stopped using my CPU for mining. It was creating a lot of heat (in my system and in my room) that the marginal cost of using it to mine totally outweighed its profitability. Instead of selling my old R7 265, I've started using it to mine. It's nowhere near as powerful as my 980 Ti, and it's not as efficient, but it still profits around $1.50/day.

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#2: BTC had been swaying between $2300 and $2600 throughout June. As I write this, it's around $2300 and seems to be fairly stable at this point.
This doesn't really affect how much you get paid at the current time, but it does affect your past earnings. If you earn 0.01 BTC per week, then at the end of week 1 (BTC @ $2600) you've got 0.01 BTC (worth $26), and the end of week 2 (BTC @ $2300) you've got 0.02 BTC (worth $46, not $52 or $49). That's just how BTC works. If you don't like it, sell your BTC online or instantly into PayPal via Coinbase at a -3.75% rate.

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#3: This doesn't really affect me since I don't use ETH or the ETH algorithm (driver compatibility issues), but ETH has dropped from about $370 down to just under $200. Considering ETH grew so rapidly from mid-May ($90) to mid-June ($400), this drop was bound to happen as the grow could not be sustained and some of it was just too much hype around ETH. Things should be more stable now, and ETH should eventually crawl its way back up.

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#4.1: This one does apply to me, ZEC prices have been falling too. Since I made this thread, ZEC has fallen from about $400 down to $200. Some of this has to do with other coin prices in general, and ZEC is in a similar situation as ETH, but more recently there was an issue with Poloniex (one of the largest coin exchanges) that halted all ZEC withdraws/deposits and so the price of ZEC fell sharply. It's coming back up now, and hopefully will eventually get back up to $300 in the not-so-distant future.
Because the price of ZEC (the algorithm I mine) and BTC (what I get paid in) have both fallen, my daily profits fell from $6.xx to $3.xx. This issue was mainly to due with ZEC prices and not the BTC prices, but since Nicehash pays you in BTC, it has to due with what buyers are paying renters for certain algorithms.

#4.2: Not sure if any of this is making sense, but long-story-short I've been directly mining ZEC (using miners that Nicehash use - 'Claymore ZCash' and 'excavator', in conjunction with http://zcash.flypool.org/ and https://jaxx.io/) and been making about 0.015 ZEC/day doing so. While that is currently only worth $3/day, as ZEC prices climb back up to $300+, it will be worth $4.50+/day and my earnings won't be limited by Nicehash buyers paying less (similar to what I discussed in #2). If I was continuing to rent my computer on Nicehash to mine ZEC anyways, I would be getting paid about 0.0013 BTC/day doing so (also worth $3 currently), and if BTC does come back up to $2600, it would only equate to $3.38/day (instead of the $4.50 for when ZEC comes back up soon).
Introduction

People are constantly looking for ways to make easy money (especially on MC-Market).
To some, $5 is nothing. To others, $5 is a lot.
There are a lot of monthly subscriptions that I'm sure some of you are paying for. $5/mo for Spotify, $10/mo for Netflix, $4/mo for Amazon Prime, $5/mo for domain + hosting, $3/mo for XBL, and so on.. Making $5/day will easily cover these costs, possibly saving you $150*/month.
* - Results may vary.

Considering there are a lot of gamers on MC-Market, I figure some of you have some decent GPUs. I have a GTX 980 Ti, which makes me about $5 USD every 24 hours.
For those less-tech-savvy: if you cannot run Minecraft at 60 FPS, your computer isn't very powerful and you will not make much money doing this.

Most of you have probably heard of Bitcoin, and how you can mine them.
The method I will be discussing does not involve you directly mining BTC, but instead renting your computer's power (CPU and GPU, mostly GPU) as a part of a cloud mining, "hash rental", service.
If you are familiar with BTC mining, Nicehash's service is similar to how a stratum pool works, but again, you are not mining the coins, just renting your computer's power to buyers.
The nice thing is that no matter what algorithm your computer is running, you get paid in BTC.
The application we will be using automatically switches algorithms based on which one is most profitable at the time for your setup.
Additionally, the miner can be setup to only run when your computer is idle. This is great if you're on and off your computer throughout the day.
Introducing, Nicehash. Buyers place bids on hashing power, and whoever bids the highest gets the most priority. Buyers can set a cap of how much hash power they want (so they don't spend all their BTC on unwanted hashing power). Since the payment per hash power varies due to this auctioning system, you are able to earn more money when the mining application automatically switches between algorithms to whichever is most profitable (has the highest bidders when compared with your computer's hashing capabilities).

If the above introduction isn't enough, feel free to check out Nicehash's website. They have a great FAQ section that should answer all your questions, or feel free to post below or PM me if you have any further concerns.

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Getting ready

If you're viewing this thread, I'm going to assume you already know a little bit about Bitcoin and how it works, and that you already have a wallet address. If you aren't familiar with Bitcoin, you might want to do a little research beforehand.

If you don't have a BTC wallet address, I personally recommend Blockchain.info. Blockchain has a phenomenal system, including all the security features you could possibly ask for.
This is the only registration you will need to do, because Nicehash's system uses your BTC address as a username to keep track of how much you've mined.

Ex. My mining profile: https://new.nicehash.com/miner/1K3cpegBFefgpods5vvWSv1nDzWgf7S99E
(This is Nicehash's new panel. The new site and mining client look amazing, but it's still a little buggy. I would recommend sticking with Nicehash's production site and client to avoid any issues and for an easier experience with configuring the mining client).

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Setting up the miner

Once you have a BTC wallet address ready, all you need to do is download the Nicehash mining client, available here: https://www.nicehash.com/?p=nhmintro
It's a portable application and there's nothing to install. Just unzip it and run the "NiceHashMiner" executable.

Your first time running it, it will detect your CPUs and GPUs, and it will download 3rd-party mining applications that will interface with Nicehash's GUI. These will be ~300 MB, so it might take a few minutes to download, depending on your internet speed.

You should have something that looks like this:
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The first step is to set your "Service location" and "Bitcoin Address". Obviously, pick whichever service location is closest to you, and enter your Bitcoin address, not mine. (If you enter mine then I'll be getting all your BTC, which I won't mind :tup:).
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The "Worker Name" doesn't really matter. It can be used for distinction between multiple computers that may be running for the same Bitcoin address. It will be shown publicly on your Nicehash mining profile. In other words: don't put any personal information in your "Worker name".

Depending on how good your CPU is, you may or may not want to enable CPU mining. I do it anyways because it increasing my profits by about 10-15%. You can enable CPU mining by clicking the checkbox next to your CPU:
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Before you start mining, you'll want to run benchmarks on all the algorithms. Not all GPUs are created equal (Nvidia = CUDA, AMD = OpenCL). Similarly with CPUs, and since buyers are paying different amounts for different algorithm hashes, running one algorithm could make you $5/day, while another could make you $0.05/day.

You're going to want to run a standard benchmark on all algorithms, as shown below:
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Since benchmarks are time based (standard benchmark is 20s PER ALGORITHM on CPUs and Nvidia GPUs, and 180s on AMD GPUs), it could take 3 mins (Nvidia GPU) to 30 minutes (AMD GPU) to benchmark all algorithms.
Just let it do it's thing, avoid running any CPU or GPU intensive tasks while benchmarking. You want accurate-as-possible benchmarks so that way the auto-switching profitability feature works the best on your machine.

After benchmarking, you can close any excess windows that opened, and you should be able to see your results, as shown:
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I've highlighted the highest rated BTC/Day algorithms: NeoScrypt, Lyra2REv2, Lbry, and Equihash. These are the highest paying per my hash speed on my PC at the time, so I should expect to see the bulk of my payout being generated from running these algorithms.

We can almost start our miner now, but first we need to change some settings.
NVIDIA P0 State - If you have admin access to your computer and you're using an Nvidia GPU, you may want to utilize this feature to slightly increase your hash speed.
Start Mining When Idle - If you're able to leave your computer turned on and logged in while you're not at the computer, this is the goldmine. After 60 seconds (configurable in the 'Advanced' tab), if you haven't moved your mouse or done anything with your keyboard, the Nicehash application will automatically start the miner for you. Once it detects mouse or keyboard activity, it halts all miners so you won't even notice any performance loss.
Minimize To Tray - Speaks for itself. Instead of having to keep the program running in your taskbar, you can minimize it to the system tray (left of Time/Internet icons).
Hide Mining Windows - Due to a bug with "Start Mining When Idle", you need to enable this option. Otherwise when it starts mining, it may detect the miner as system activity and just halt.
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You can Save and Close your settings, and you're all set to go.

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You're all set

Just make sure to keep this application running in the background, and when your computer is idle you'll start making money.

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You can see your stats at the bottom of the application, or click the link to view your stats online:
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Payouts are daily for BTC >= 0.1, and weekly for BTC >= 0.01.
I've been getting around ~0.002 BTC per day, so I'll get my payout most weeks.
(Although I started halfway through the week so I missed the first payout chance).

Obviously running your CPU and GPU all day may have adverse effects due to excessive heat. I'm not responsible if your computer melts because you overclocked your CPU/GPU without having proper cooling.
Some of the miner applications do have temperature cutoffs, so if you hit 90 Celsius it will stop. That's just an example and cannot be said for all. Just be careful.
 
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A very well-written guide, nice job

Obviously running your CPU and GPU all day may have adverse effects due to excessive heat. I'm not responsible if your computer melts because you overclocked your CPU/GPU without having proper cooling.
Some of the miner applications do have temperature cutoffs, so if you hit 90 Celsius it will stop. That's just an example and cannot be said for all. Just be careful.
I had a friend in class that was serious about bitcoin mining 5 years ago and this was the warning he gave pretty much anyone that asked him if they could mine on their own computers.
Private computers aren't meant to be able to withstand constant stress over time, as most of them have a good enough cooling-system to sustain normal use and nothing more to avoid costing more then it needs.
This results in the question of: "are you ready to sacrifice the lifespan of your computer".
Servers usually handle this task very well, as they are made to sustain 24/7 activity with a prioritized cooling system, but if you are that deep into bitcoins then you might aswell not mine through a second-hand program.
 

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wait so your renting ur pc? or wtf r u doing? I'm so confused xD
 

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A very well-written guide, nice job


I had a friend in class that was serious about bitcoin mining 5 years ago and this was the warning he gave pretty much anyone that asked him if they could mine on their own computers.
Private computers aren't meant to be able to withstand constant stress over time, as most of them have a good enough cooling-system to sustain normal use and nothing more to avoid costing more then it needs.
This results in the question of: "are you ready to sacrifice the lifespan of your computer".
Servers usually handle this task very well, as they are made to sustain 24/7 activity with a prioritized cooling system, but if you are that deep into bitcoins then you might aswell not mine through a second-hand program.
So you're saying you can't even have one miner? Or not have like 5 miners?
 

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So you're saying you can't even have one miner? Or not have like 5 miners?
not at all, you CAN have one miner or 5 miners or 100 miners, but your private PC is not meant (if you haven't specifically designed it to) withstand medium-high load over time. It can overheat and/or bring the quality of your hardware down, so mining bitcoin isn't a win/win, its trading one thing for another.
 

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not at all, you CAN have one miner or 5 miners or 100 miners, but your private PC is not meant (if you haven't specifically designed it to) withstand medium-high load over time. It can overheat and/or bring the quality of your hardware down, so mining bitcoin isn't a win/win, its trading one thing for another.
So if you have 1 miner, and you run it, let's say, 3 days every week will it kill your computer?
 

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So if you have 1 miner, and you run it, let's say, 3 days every week will it kill your computer?
I don't do bitcoin mining, only talked to people who have done it in the past, so I can't really dig into specific numbers.
 

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A very well-written guide, nice job


I had a friend in class that was serious about bitcoin mining 5 years ago and this was the warning he gave pretty much anyone that asked him if they could mine on their own computers.
Private computers aren't meant to be able to withstand constant stress over time, as most of them have a good enough cooling-system to sustain normal use and nothing more to avoid costing more then it needs.
This results in the question of: "are you ready to sacrifice the lifespan of your computer".
Servers usually handle this task very well, as they are made to sustain 24/7 activity with a prioritized cooling system, but if you are that deep into bitcoins then you might aswell not mine through a second-hand program.
Thanks!
It works well for me because I used to game a lot and I have a gaming PC, but I rarely ever game on it anymore.
So by letting it work for 12-16 hours a day while I'm asleep or AFK, it's basically the same as a hardcore gamer who games all day long and turns his/her PC off at night.

wait so your renting ur pc? or wtf r u doing? I'm so confused xD
You're mining coins (Bitcoins, Altcoins, Dogecoins) with other people, for other people.

Noob, If you have gaming pc you, have powerful pc. Then you use your pc to 'mine' bitcoin to get ez money.
Sort of, yes. But as I mention in the guide, we're not actually mining BTC, we're mining for other people, and they're paying us to mine for them.
Pool mining + cloud mining, essentially.

So you're saying you can't even have one miner? Or not have like 5 miners?
Of course you can. Just don't let your PC get too hot. Make sure it's dust-free and well-ventilated. Otherwise you might damage some components.
Your CPU and GPU are meant to be safe up to about 80-90 Celsius, which is very hot. Different components are rated differently, and some of the miners have auto-shutoff features if things get too hot, as I mentioned in the post.

Really the only thing you're losing is that by running your computer at 100% usage, you'll be using a lot of electricity (idle 100 Watts, full load 250 Watts - just an example, it will vary greatly by your hardware). Using a lot of power costs money, usually $0.10 - $0.15 per kWh.
I leave my computer idle anyways, so I'm only using an extra 150 Watts by doing this. If my electricity costs $0.12 per kWh, that means 150 Watts * 24 hours = 3600 Wh = 3.6 kWh.
3.6 kWh @ $0.12 per kWh = $0.432 extra that I have to pay for electricity every 24 hours that I run this miner.
Since I'm making $5.50 every 24 hours, and only paying $0.432 extra for the electricity, my net profit is +$5.06 every 24 hours.

Now if the price of Bitcoin crashes to $500 USD per 1 BTC, instead of it's current $2822, then I'll only be making $0.89 per day, minus $0.43 for electricity = net profit +$0.46 every 24 hours.
There is a bit of degrade on your hardware, and at that point it may not be worth it.
 

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can u run the programme on a dedi or vps?
Yes, but you'll have to look around on their website for supported miners and other software you may need.
https://www.nicehash.com/?p=software

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For a consumer PC, yes fairly high-end. You'll be making even more than me (on both CPU and GPU). Probably $6-$7/day, but you won't know exactly until you've run the benchmarks.
 

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Hey so, I have a old PC just lying around (1.5 years old) and it's got 2 970s and an i7-5820k (OC'd) How much do you think I could make from doing this daily with those specs?
 

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What's the difference between a paid miner program and a free miner program? Also, the link you sent, when I downloaded it it said that file was a Trojan and was a high risk, that's fishy.
 

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Hey so, I have a old PC just lying around (1.5 years old) and it's got 2 970s and an i7-5820k (OC'd) How much do you think I could make from doing this daily with those specs?
Can't say for certain since I don't know the hash rates of every GPU/CPU.
If you do the benchmarks you'll get a good estimate. Otherwise you can use this tool: https://www.nicehash.com/?p=calc
According to that tool, $8+/day.

What's the difference between a paid miner program and a free miner program? Also, the link you sent, when I downloaded it it said that file was a Trojan and was a high risk, that's fishy.
Paid miner programs are scams. Some of the best miners are free and open source. It's not like you can put a trade secret on effective computational algorithms.
Also, before you downloaded the file you acknowledged this message that explains why your computer thinks it's a virus.
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How much would a i7 5960x and duel gtx titan z's make. My mother has this pc at my house for business.
No idea. You'd have to run the benchmarks to see, or use an online tool like https://www.nicehash.com/?p=calc
Probably $10/day though.
 

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How do i stop it from running?
If you have the idle mode setup it should stop when you have mouse or keyboard activity.
Refer to the GIF at the end of the thread.
 
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