I need the best anticheat
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MMC does not use Verus. They use AGC, made by dewgs (owner) and others. I agree though, Verus is probably the best for-sale anticheat. Some stuff bypasses but definitely your best bet[DOUBLEPOST=1592083495][/DOUBLEPOST]
Agree with everything you say and you are a very good developer, but artemis is no where near as good as Verus. Also, overflow is not a good anticheat and is laggy.
Artemis definitely is on-par with Verus for movement and most combat. Where they currently beat us is reach and data collection. They're a more established product compared to us being quite new. That's however to change in the future. Verus is a good product and I endorse it alongside Artemis.
This is very misleading... Please define "not good" and "laggy". The server I worked on uses it and we are very proud of the combat detections (except that there is no velocity check) and the Timer detection is really decent too. So far, it is not known to cause lag.
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I have the source code and I can assure you that it doesn't detect ANY ghost clients. I have had experience with this lagging the server[DOUBLEPOST=1592169204][/DOUBLEPOST]
I'd love to see a demo of you detecting the things that verus detects. Vape-Lite autoclicker, vepe clicker, etc.
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There's no way you would be able to obtain the source. The plugin is a loader that loads the actual anti cheat source code from their website into the server after a successful verification. If you had actually used the latest version of overflow and tested it against vape aimassist it would flag. So your claims here are invalid.
Verus doesn't detect vape autoclicker and aimassist (tested it against vape 3). As far as I know, some forms of killaura bypasses verus (AAC even detects killaura better in this case) and versus doesn't have a good aim check. The pros about verus (which most public anti cheats lack) are the movement checks, velocity, autoclicker and reach checks. That is why I would recommend it over other anti cheats.
overflow > artemis :^)
is the custom option (175) not good? Idk how it works I was just guessing it would be the better option out of all 3. PluginsDeveloper
The premium version contains almost all of the features verus offers. The custom is just extra features for example if you want custom messages, custom stuff, etc. You will be given the priority to test new beta checks first, and any feature suggestion will be heard first.
Do you have Vepe clicker detection? I don't really know why I said Vape-Lite to be honest.
Note: I can send you the clicker if you'd like
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Here is where I can prove you wrong.
First of all here are the screenshots of source:
https://prnt.sc/t0c3zr
https://prnt.sc/t0c42g
https://prnt.sc/t0c44z
Second, I have a source which I cannot name (because of a contractual agreement) that has very hands on experience with verus and I can assure you with a 100% guarantee that vape-lite and all other vape version's autoclickers is detected within seconds.
The forms of killaura that bypass verus are because there are disablers that are specifically targeted at verus which are patched within the hour.
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Umm, seems legit. The package is indeed correct (might be an old source not sure about the version). Why do you have the source tho?
Okay, an example of what I meant is I have tested vape killaura with max angle set to 80 (if not mistaken) in verus test server, it bypasses effortlessly. Fyi, this setting ( which is even lower with max angle set to 50) got immediately detected in AAC test server when I tested against some random players.
1. The reason for why I have source is private
2. That is flat out not true. A newer version of verus (unobfuscated) was leaked today by PeaceOfficial and I can assure you that even with this relatively old version, you wouldn't bypass.
Screenshots:
https://prnt.sc/t0ge2x
https://prnt.sc/t0ge4f
Bro I just tested Verus few weeks ago, thus, the version is one of the latest. The leaked version (if newer) won't be newer than the one I've tested in front of Jacob in his test server.
If you have disagreements, you can send a video to correct me. Or if you do have any servers for me to test on to show you, I'd be more happy to do so.[DOUBLEPOST=1592286194][/DOUBLEPOST]
Btw, even liquid bounce with low killaura settings (AAC flags that in seconds) takes some decent amount of time for it to detect. And the aim check which is relatively new false flags (I understand it's new). None of the checks detects Vape aim assist (except for the aim check but that check flags legit players too). It does detect Vape autoclicker but on high settings (16cps). The reach check is decent however.
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I won't be able to prove you wrong on that first point because I can't say where my sources are from but I can assure you that what you are saying about high cps detecting shows your lack of knowledge. The majority if not 99% of all autoclicker checks are based on statistical patterns that do not depend on cps at all. I would also argue that the reach check is more than decent. My private source tells me that there has barely ever been any false flags with reach on verus
I apologize for the lack of testing on the autoclicker detection mate, I was wrong in this statement. I recently tested verus b1511 which is a relatively leaked old build and you're right the autoclicker check is decent. It even flags 5 - 8 cps when I'm on liquid bounce and it didn't false when I jitter or butterfly. Detects vape autoclicker too.
The reach is decent and does not false for me. I complimented the reeach check above which sometimes detect 3.2.
The only downside with verus combat is hacking with aimbot or aimassist will bypass most of the time. This is because currently, the aim check is relatively new (false flags sometimes Jacob admitted). And the killaura detection takes rather long to kick (it does flags bit by bit) and it won't kick vape killaura (in mid settings but does flag a little, just not enough violations in a certain amount of time given for a solid kick). And as I said AAC will kick those players with those cheats in middle settings relatively fast.
One more thing that I wanted to mention is I have talked to a staff member in a server that purchased the custom version of verus yesterday, having the latest build. The staff told me that verus is not that great. It's easy to bypass with the the verus disabler thing (which I doubt). But after looking at some videos bypassing verus (latest version), I'm starting to feel concerned whether verus is still a good choice for big servers to eliminate most cheats. I'm not trying to shit talk verus as I'm not bias against any anti cheat but I'm stating everything based on my experience and others opinions (the ones that really owns it).
Here, I wanted to talk about the cons of Overflow. Overflow false bans currently when you butterfly or jitter click against a player constantly in a short period of time which makes no sense. The other movement checks such as flight false bans two legit player before. In addition, the bad packets check are flagged against laggy players and sometimes false bans them. It is also known that the check is flagged once the player teleports (by the server) every time.
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dont want to be mean but. bruh the newest version of verus is like 1800
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