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thebaum64

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I honestly agree with 1337. I believe Mick holds more blame overall.

There's no clear set recruitment method, nor does there appear to be many guidelines when it comes to the standards that should be being reached as a staff member.
Why do I say this? thebaum64 has been one of the longest-lasting, most dedicated, and in a sense "reliable" staff members MCM has had. While I have many thoughts on this matter, I do believe the fact that he was let go without any prior notice, as one of the most absolutely appalling. I believe that one of the main things baum has focused on in the past few years, has in fact been MCM. To relieve someone of their position they've put so much time and effort into, for not meeting standards that they were not given ahead of time, or more importantly given an opportunity to meet, makes me call into even more question the operation of the seemingly non-existent management of the forums.
Thank you for the kind words, means the world to me.
 
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I can't say I know what happened - however, what I can say is that you put in a ton of work for the community and we are nothing but grateful.
 

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Bit of a shame. But I guess you should've known that you couldn't step up to the job anyways.
that's a really terrible thing to say to someone, especially considering the nature of the post. being a dick doesn't make yours bigger :tup:[DOUBLEPOST=1564624113][/DOUBLEPOST]
When I say I wasn’t involved, that’s not to say I wasn’t informed. I really do want to help clarify this for you, and I absolutely do not want to publicly shame or disrespect you in any way, because you don’t deserve that. You are an absolutely fantastic person, and I can count on one hand the number of staff members who have contributed to MC-Market and its community in a way that is comparable to you. So please communicate with Mick and I in PMs.
So no reply to my post at all? Fair enough.

It's funny how you only ask and seem open to him talking about this with you and mick after someone mentions it in public. If you're going to be an asshat, at least do a better job of hiding it.[DOUBLEPOST=1564624492][/DOUBLEPOST]Yikes! How surprising. Justis has deleted his original post/reply (but not before he ghost-edited it!). The administration is looking more and more competent by the second.
 
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Yall should stop craving attention by harassing staff.
Justis obviously regrets what he said and only wishes the best for baum.
I think baum does not appreciate all this toxicity either.
 

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I got the message when I woke up, I told tried to dispute it because I did not feel it was fair. He said the decision is final and by that afternoon I was demoted. (To give a proper timeline).
I’m just shocked that they’d do something like that to someone AFTER 4 YEARS

Edit: After seeing the new rank, I think I’ve come to the conclusion this site is a money grab, maybe it’s a good thing you’re gone because of I were you, I wouldn’t want my name to be attached to this anymore. It’s prime is gone and the good times are fading, hopefully things can get better but Doge really summed it up in his post
 
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Edit: After seeing the new rank, I think I’ve come to the conclusion this site is a money grab, maybe it’s a good thing you’re gone because of I were you, I wouldn’t want my name to be attached to this anymore. It’s prime is gone and the good times are fading, hopefully things can get better but Doge really summed it up in his post
Define Money Grab said:
n. inf. an undignified or unprincipled acquisition of a large sum of money with little effort. "money grab." The Oxford Pocket Dictionary of Current English. .
There have obviously been good additions (whether you value them is up to you) but MCM is not a money grab. It's 5 years old. It's not a money grab after 5 years. If you don't like it, don't buy it, but don't preach or complain to others. Also, it's always going to be different. Community and staff and systems change, and whether you like it or not, you have to get over it. No, you're not gonna have the old times like you used to but if you have an open mind, maybe you'll still have fun times. Also if you don't want your name attached to this place... well buddy, I don't know what the point of your message is.
 
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There have obviously been good additions (whether you value them is up to you) but MCM is not a money grab. It's 5 years old. It's not a money grab after 5 years. If you don't like it, don't buy it, but don't preach or complain to others. Also, it's always going to be different. Community and staff and systems change, and whether you like it or not, you have to get over it. No, you're not gonna have the old times like you used to but if you have an open mind, maybe you'll still have fun times. Also if you don't want your name attached to this place... well buddy, I don't know what the point of your message is.
I mean as staff. I don’t mind the rank, but I feel like this is just the beginning. And as for having your name attached, I mean as staff, like what doge said, it took MONTHS for a image proxy to be setup. If the money from the rank is going into the site and actually fixing it, then I’m all for it but once again, I have a strong feeling that this is just the beginning of the end, especially if things don’t start getting fixed around here
 

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I mean as staff. I don’t mind the rank, but I feel like this is just the beginning. And as for having your name attached, I mean as staff, like what doge said, it took MONTHS for a image proxy to be setup. If the money from the rank is going into the site and actually fixing it, then I’m all for it but once again, I have a strong feeling that this is just the beginning of the end, especially if things don’t start getting fixed around here
I just hate the color idk about you


Also thebaum64 as much as we disagree with eachother I can only say that you've served this site far better than a lot of other staff and I wish the best for you in the future and for your fight with depression.
 
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As someone who had this happen to me as well, I can with 100% confidence say that this will be a good thing for your sake. At first you might feel kinda down about it because it’s something you’ve done for so long and something you are very used to and now it’s changed. You might miss the Slack with everyone and taking care of reports etc. but you will begin to notice that you are more free. You won’t be tied down to this forum anymore and you can spend a lot more time going out, doing the things you like and spending more time with friends and family. It will be a massive weight lifted from your shoulders. That was my experience at least. I ended up having more fun, having more free time, making more money and just enjoying life more overall!

Baumy, don’t see this as a bad thing, it’s exactly the opposite! I’m sure you enjoyed helping people and sorting out the forum, as did I, but ultimately we did volunteerwork for a minecraft forum and got paid a little bit for it! Just think of all you can do now! On top of that, you won’t have to stress over it and you won’t have to deal with toxic 14 year olds cursing you out like a sailor after you warn them for selling a world downloded map or NFA MC account.

Man, it took the upper levels of management 6+ months to get an image proxy setup after an ETA of 24 hours. This forum now is riddled with so many problems and everyone is always told “We are doing X now to fix it!” And it either takes an unreasonable amount of time or it never actually gets solved. Also, remember when every single staff member (us included) signed a word document to ask that BeBosny retain forum ownership but it just got ignored? Yeah, what I’m saying is that you deserve SO much better than this!

So, good luck with eveything in life and I wish you the best! Remember that it only gets better from here and take care man :)
Couldn't have said this any better myself! I put my word everything Doge has just said is true and I'll add my personal bit too.

thebaum64: We both know what it's like behind the scenes, we were both top runners for most moderation reports resolved back to back (You too Doge!). But you want to know what I respected the most about you? The fact that you would put up a fight and actually have the courage to question the right from the wrong Baum. We both made mistakes here and there, but at least we faced them head on unlike Administration did (and what it seems like still up to this day - now) by dodging them or "beating around the bush". I never felt a need to question your activity after the day I found out about what you were going through on a daily basis (unless I wanted to check up on you or wanted to win a cs match :rolleyes:) and even then, I knew you were built strong seeing your dedication carry on throughout the years over this site. I still remember the day you came to me asking if I needed help when I had things going on in my life, I appreciated it so much but never felt that I expressed that to you directly because I was furious with myself but I just couldn't believe it coming from you. It seems that you always cared more for others than you did for yourself and simply gave more than you received which is such a positive trait however one that can be easily used which is what I feel happened to you just as it did to Doge and I. You have nothing to be sorry for, you never did and you never will.

Reflecting back on what Doge said, I myself could relate so so so much as to what to expect. Reflecting on myself and now, there are currently three scam resolvers and the page count goes up to four, 91 active threads total. During my prime time, I worked that section alone and never let the page count raise above two, if not one. Every thread I made positive the pictures were click-viewable (not this handsy pandsy copy/paste to view an image), the accusation was legitimate, the formatting was legible/clear and the comment approvals were appropriate. This wasn't just so I was satisfied, it was so any member that wants to do research on a member has the fullest ability to do their assessment before entering a deal. I'm upset with these so-called "standards" now, if anything -- it has quite clearly gone down in all areas of this site including administration. But you know what, all of that time and effort made me realize that I have the ability to do more than just be staff on a marketplace. After I resigned, I worked an internship with Boeing and am now looking into companies such as Lockheed Martin. My "sight" has opened up so much ever since taking a step back to relax and comeback as a stronger person in the real spinning world. The world is huger than a site like this, the opportunities are endless.

You have a good heart man and I know it may only seem like there's only one direction for you to go but trust me - it's the absolute best. You are bound to have so much more time on your hands and to do anything you wish, to work harder than before and as I know you will, succeed. You are more than welcome to send me a message or to play a game or two (imma lose unless you're on my team xP) and I look forward to getting back in contact with you soon!

Stay strong my friend and looking forward to what's next on your list <3
M6Gaming
 

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Still, no reaction from Mick to all of this speaks volumes. He's being absolutely obliterated by previous staff and hides away.

Meanwhile, Justis was not involved and is trying to sort the situation.
 

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Honestly, Mick can't run this or handle this situation because it's all the truth and if he says anything he won't have anything to say there's nothing to he can't lie or do anything it's all the truth he's a terrible owner.
 

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While I don’t know what the reasons behind the demotion were specifically, it’s extremely unprofessional to fire/demote someone from a position without giving them the chance to potentially improve upon their performance or at the very least inform them of the reasons surrounding their demotion. Especially if the staff member in question has worked for the site for years.
 

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While I haven’t talked to you personally you seem like a very nice and helpful person. Gl with the future.
Thank you I really appreciate it. All of the kind words seriously mean a lot and can not thank everyone enough for them.
 

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Hello, it may have come to a surprise to some of you that I was demoted yesterday. It was a surprise to me as well, as I had just found out that morning. It honestly hit me pretty hard as I did not expect it at all. My demotion was due to new standards essentially and I am to blame for the demotion. I may have been active, but my activity was.. well.. how do I put it, inconsistent. This was due to my health issues that I am sure a lot of you know about at this point. My anxiety and depression caused me to take long breaks at times and made me not acceptable for the position any longer.

I want to apologize to anyone I have disappointed or made upset by being demoted. I have gotten a lot of messages from people, good and bad. I just want to say I am sorry. Whether I upset you in the past or if you do not like me in general. I feel as if I disappointed a lot of people, and for that I can not say sorry enough. I do want to thank those who have been kind and supportive, as that means the world to me. MC-Market is more than just a sales forum to me. It has helped me though many hard times and gave me something to work hard on and strive on, and I let it and the people around it down. I want to apologize to Mick for letting him down. I truly love this site and community. You have supported me through thick and thin and for that I can't thank you enough.

I more than likely will be around the site, but not like before. While a staff member for nearly 4 years I spent a lot of my free time on it, doing reports, helping users, and having fun. It is sad that the fun of that has come to an end, especially so abruptly. As I said, it has hit me pretty hard. I would like to one again to apologize to anyone I have disappointed. I am truly sorry, as I feel as I have failed you as a community. The community that I love and have been a part of for years. This may be my last thread for a while (No it is not a goodbye thread), but I will be around. Feel free to shoot me a message whether it be kind or hateful. You as a community have the right to feel upset with me as I have let you down by not being able to perform. Anyway, it was one hell of a run.

Maybe this is a sign that better things are to come, or a sign that worse it to come. I can only hope for better things.

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Thanks for everything.
Christian

A bit more to add here. I just want to express once again how sorry I am but also how upset I am with the administration on the site. My reason for demotion was due to "new standards" and I did not meet them. That it itself is fine, ok I get it, but I was never informed on the "new standards". So I got messaged that morning (saw the notification saying I was being demoted) then was demoted that same day. There was no time for me to reflect upon anything. After working on/for this forum for nearly 4 years I can't believe I was tossed away like trash. It honestly hurts me, and other users have stated this and I was too upset before to realize it until literally today. Thanks again for reading, hope this is a statement for future and people see what has happened. I just know one thing, is that I should not have been discarded like trash after being here as a mod for 4 years, and thank you to everyone who made me realize that. Love you guys.
Best of luck for the road.
 
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