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Alright, this is going to be 100% how I feel about this. It's getting annoying to see random users who have like +7 ratings and no transactions made on MCM spamming threads like, "HUH KID WHERES THE PROOF HUH IM PRETTY SURE YOU'RE A SCAMMER YOU LOW LIFE TRASHY KID LOGIN TO MINEPLEX LOBBY 1 IN 10 SECONDS OR YOU'RE A SCAMMER KID KID KID." The saddest part is, it's not just these random users, I've seen well known and long-time users doing it. MCM has become so paranoid with scammers that it's ridiculous. I saw a thread where a kid offered to go FIRST and he was being called a scammer. Not only does this apply to general transactions, but to the whole cracking thing. Now you all are going to sit and say, "but Kenny Skill is trying to screw the economy up BECAUSE HES A GREEDY PRICK AND HE WANTS OUR MONEY." No, he's not. He's thinking of a way to combat cracking, something that, whether all you 14-year-olds thinks is right or not, is wrong. To be honest, I'd even understand if you could prove that no one has used the acc. for years and they are probably grown and forgot the emails and passwords etc., BUT SOME OF Y'ALL CRACK ANYTHING. Just like some kid on a thread said, he had his cape account cracked and sold on MCM, AN ACTIVE USER. That's all besides the point, I'm going a little off-topic. The whole point is, can we honestly adopt a fair policy for all of this? No one should be allowed to call scams on someone just because they'd prefer to provide private proof or aren't home. It's worse than sales trashing through price, it's damaging a reputation. In the real world, it's called libel and it's illegal, Anthony R can back me up on this. I'd like to see the rule put in place that you libelous speech be something against the rules from now on and everyone, even people in scam reports, are innocent until PROVEN guilty.

Good day, thank you.

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If a new member is trying to sell something and posts no proof, it is very likely that they're a scammer. If people call the member out on that, that is their own business, nobody else's. How can you blame someone for accusing a new member of scamming if they don't provide proof of the product they're trying to sell? It's common sense to provide proof of what you're selling if you have no rep or vouches.
I said Proof is needed but you said it yourself if the provide no proof they are scammers (and I quote u said likely ) that's the point of this thread just ask for proof in a respectful polite way and you will get proof. NO WAY he's trading or buying or selling ad you ask for proof and he says no..
 

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If a new member is trying to sell something and posts no proof, it is very likely that they're a scammer. If people call the member out on that, that is their own business, nobody else's. How can you blame someone for accusing a new member of scamming if they don't provide proof of the product they're trying to sell? It's common sense to provide proof of what you're selling if you have no rep or vouches.[DOUBLEPOST=1445979215,1445979144][/DOUBLEPOST]
I'm not telling anyone who to deal with and who not to deal with. I'm saying most people would not deal with low-rep users because they are usually untrustworthy. I'm going to stop replying now though and play Club Penguin because this is getting boring.
This thread has nothing to do with scammers actually, please re-read the Original Post xD


Guilty until proven innocent.
Once again, you opened a fake skype located at bruno2k15 that you didn't tell anyone about and contacted me on my Skype saying you were selling a 2011 cape for $130 (possibly you seen my post my skype on a thread) and you scammed me. You're not guilty, prove that I'm lying, because I know you own that acc as you said it was you and quickly deleted your message.
Your argument is invalid.
 

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lol monty & I never even engage in any of the behavior talked about on this thread, as we agree it's pretty lame to do that. but i don't see anything wrong with giving new members a hard time, you are just being over-sensitive about it. we all had to go through it so why shouldn't new members have to too? it prevents scammers from running all over the place.

you guys are being silly. if it wasn't a reality that half the new members on this site are scammers, i'd agree with you, but since we have to assume everyone is a potential scammer, we have to interrogate anyone trying to sell things in this manner.

what's wrong with asking people to build a reputation
 

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lol monty & I never even engage in any of the behavior talked about on this thread, as we agree it's pretty lame to do that. but i don't see anything wrong with giving new members a hard time, you are just being over-sensitive about it. we all had to go through it so why shouldn't new members have to too? it prevents scammers from running all over the place.

you guys are being silly. if it wasn't a reality that half the new members on this site are scammers, i'd agree with you, but since we have to assume everyone is a potential scammer, we have to interrogate anyone trying to sell things in this manner.

what's wrong with asking people to build a reputation
You and your club penguin friend are absolutely correct about the issue case closed (notice the sarcasm; ) )
 

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lol monty & I never even engage in any of the behavior talked about on this thread, as we agree it's pretty lame to do that. but i don't see anything wrong with giving new members a hard time, you are just being over-sensitive about it. we all had to go through it so why shouldn't new members have to too? it prevents scammers from running all over the place.

you guys are being silly. if it wasn't a reality that half the new members on this site are scammers, i'd agree with you, but since we have to assume everyone is a potential scammer, we have to interrogate anyone trying to sell things in this manner.

what's wrong with asking people to build a reputation
This thread has nothing to do with scammers actually, please re-read the Original Post xD
 

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This thread has nothing to do with scammers actually, please re-read the Original Post xD



Once again, you opened a fake skype located at bruno2k15 that you didn't tell anyone about and contacted me on my Skype saying you were selling a 2011 cape for $130 (possibly you seen my post my skype on a thread) and you scammed me. You're not guilty, prove that I'm lying, because I know you own that acc as you said it was you and quickly deleted your message.
Your argument is invalid.
Wait wtf? I scammed you? I think you're mistaken.
 
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