Kylew Rigged
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Where's the proof it was real? You're supporting an invalid argument. The only proof which can easily be provided and should be provided which proves it wasn't rigged, is a picture of the iPad package.
Maybe Grace is in there!
I never entered this giveaway, so again your point is invalid.
Tis correct, however. He can invalidate all of our points if proof of purchase/shipping is provided, I'm sure taking a screenshot isn't difficult for him. It's quite depressing how your comeback is "oh ur mad cause you didn't win", when in reality, that's not the case at all. As Cal said, it's a matter of principle. Are you saying it's okay to make bullshit giveaways and when asked for proof, you can just not give it? We want proof that the giveaway was indeed not fake, at least proof that the iPad was shipped to the winner. In our eyes, without proof, we can assume that it was a fake giveaway in order to promote his server. The professional way to go about the situation is to show pictures of iPad to know that the giveaway is authentic, record a random number generator, pick a winner, provide proof of shipping if asked, and nobody would say anything. Also, the "ur mad cause u didnt win" comeback is getting old, I could care less if I didn't get an iPad, just don't want him to get free advertising for a giveaway that may or may not have happened.
First of all, I’m not triggered I didn’t win it because I never even entered it. Frankly, I didn’t know of its existence until I saw this thread.
In the real world / legally, if the plaintiff (those against Kylew) present an argument stating he rigged or possibly rigged his giveaway and he denies it but refuses to provide evidence that it was legitimate, he would lose the case instantly.
You're essentially saying that the absence of proof to back a claim means no proof is necessary- this is a false statement. As per in this case, anyone who is accused of wrongdoing without distinctive evidence to back the accusation, is not required to back their claim opposing that of the accusation.
The term "accusation" is used to accuse someone of something, typically wrongdoing. Accusations have no proof, they are asking for proof to counteract themselves. Literally, when you accuse someone, you are basically asking for them to either dismiss you and thus prove you right or counteract your accusation with legitimate evidence.
One would think an innocent person who is being ridiculed by a large number of community members would just love to prove everyone else wrong or at least defend themselves properly (without degrading the opposition of course), but no, not in this instance apparently. In this case it seems perfectly adequate to simply say "I didn't do it" and move on.
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I miss being 20... so long ago. He'll get humbled eventually when his arrogance catches up to him
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That's correct. I didn't even enter this contest. I could careless about the prize. However, what I do care about is integrity... something MCM has a major issue with because there are so many shady people, doing shady things.[DOUBLEPOST=1510029188][/DOUBLEPOST]
Your argument is so dumb. I feel dumber for reading it. This isn't how the world works kiddo.
Not just for fairness, but many states have laws requiring this, and it's considered fraud otherwise.
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I'm not lmfao I didn't even enter 1) I dislike apple 2) Not worth the fucking time 3) Rather buy a brand new one.
it was a brand new one
This thread is now very repetitive. Statements are basically just being restated but with more frustration.
Locking the thread completely or nobody replying till the picture or Kylew replies/Zachary replies would be good.
I didn't join the giveaway not personally know kylew so I'll just give my input. There's no proof that the iPad was bought or even delivered. There's no proof at all that the rolling was legit. There's also no proof that is wasnt either. I think Kylew and Zach should provide order info. Sure the rolling has passed but it's never too late to show proof of purchase, and the reason of salt isn't a valid reason for not showing that. Not saying Kylew did rig it, not saying he didnt , just giving my opinion on what should happen.
Usually in forums, those ratings are used in a negative light.
I miss being 20... so long ago. He'll get humbled eventually when his arrogance catches up to him
That's correct. I didn't even enter this contest. I could careless about the prize. However, what I do care about is integrity... something MCM has a major issue with because there are so many shady people, doing shady things.[DOUBLEPOST=1510029188][/DOUBLEPOST]
Your argument is so dumb. I feel dumber for reading it. This isn't how the world works kiddo.
Not just for fairness, but many states have laws requiring this, and it's considered fraud otherwise.
In which I completely agree, but Kyle chooses to be a dick rather than just disproving us, which makes the whole situation more suspicious.I miss being 20... so long ago. He'll get humbled eventually when his arrogance catches up to him
That's correct. I didn't even enter this contest. I could careless about the prize. However, what I do care about is integrity... something MCM has a major issue with because there are so many shady people, doing shady things.[DOUBLEPOST=1510029188][/DOUBLEPOST]
Your argument is so dumb. I feel dumber for reading it. This isn't how the world works kiddo.
Not just for fairness, but many states have laws requiring this, and it's considered fraud otherwise.
Although it may look like suspicious circumstances, I don't see what could be done now. As Kyle has said, his giveaway did follow all of MC-Market's rules, if his staff member won and he decided to re-roll it that would be far less fair. I do however agree that we should prevent situations like this happening again, so if anyone has any input or suggestions on what could actually be changed then please take a look at TellingMom's suggestion here.
I'll lock this thread now as its clearly gotten out of hand with people calling others "salty bitches". If you have something constructive to say, give input on the suggestion above.
I'll lock this thread now as its clearly gotten out of hand with people calling others "salty bitches". If you have something constructive to say, give input on the suggestion above.
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