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Aight - I've privately contacted BeBosny. If this gets resolved, good - if it doesn't, I'm out - there is no reason for me to be here if I can't offer my services.
 

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Wannabe M6 >:U Also Why not Renovix? Ur getting banned?
Basically M6 told him to stop doing what he likes on the forums because he doesn't like it for some reason. If the staff are just going to bring him down why stay?
 

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He shouldn't be getting a ban. If he does then RIP.
At the current state of MC-Market, I would not be surprised if tomorrow you saw me banned for "Disrespecting Staff".
 

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Can I add you on Skype so U can do my art.. Before U get banned... Or after U get banned...
I'm not an artist?! My skype is iron_man_jai

I remember when I wanted to be staff on MCM someday..... Yeah - with M6 on the team, I'll pass.
 

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There's nothing wrong with the community itself. Well, there is, there is a lot of things wrong but you can't just blame staff. You guys have to understand that staff are real humans and that they have lives, and most have actual jobs. The attitude they may have against you may be from something that happened during real life, of just be annoyance. I'm sure that M6Gaming didnt really mean for you to just stop on the forums, he just may have been annoyed. You have to cut him slack. He deals with hundreds of people daily, and has real life stuff to do too. No need to start flame or anything.
 

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There's nothing wrong with the community itself. Well, there is, there is a lot of things wrong but you can't just blame staff. You guys have to understand that staff are real humans and that they have lives, and most have actual jobs. The attitude they may have against you may be from something that happened during real life, of just be annoyance. I'm sure that M6Gaming didnt really mean for you to just stop on the forums, he just may have been annoyed. You have to cut him slack. He deals with hundreds of people daily, and has real life stuff to do too. No need to start flame or anything.
Yeah but when we're having harsh times in our lives and are annoyed and say things like this we are punished. They don't care what we do because it's breaking the rules, and I agree with them on that point. The problem is, staff need to be punished the same way users are. If we get warning points for offending someone, staff should receive warning points for offending someone. In this case, many managers could have been offended. Who knows how many people took his comment to heart.
 

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There's nothing wrong with the community itself. Well, there is, there is a lot of things wrong but you can't just blame staff. You guys have to understand that staff are real humans and that they have lives, and most have actual jobs. The attitude they may have against you may be from something that happened during real life, of just be annoyance. I'm sure that M6Gaming didnt really mean for you to just stop on the forums, he just may have been annoyed. You have to cut him slack. He deals with hundreds of people daily, and has real life stuff to do too. No need to start flame or anything.
I respect the work that he does for the forum, and that he is the sole person on this forum that keeps us safe from scammers.

I do not respect the fact that he said that I can't reply to scam reports that don't involve me, simply because I said I was the manager of a team. Many people here are managers of teams, so shouldn't they be banned from replying to scam reports too? What actions on my account on these forums do I have to change? He said that I have to fix my actions? I never drank, smoked, and Santa always got me my present.
 

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I respect the work that he does for the forum, and that he is the sole person on this forum that keeps us safe from scammers.

I do not respect the fact that he said that I can't reply to scam reports that don't involve me, simply because I said I was the manager of a team. Many people here are managers of teams, so shouldn't they be banned from replying to scam reports too? What actions on my account on these forums do I have to change? He said that I have to fix my actions? I never drank, smoked, and Santa always got me my present.
Scam reports are also public for anyone to comment. If it's such a big deal that you commented something that actually related to the report but he didn't like it scam reports should just be privatized with those involved added to a sort of PM.
 

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Sorry about the drama I caused for just a few minutes here guys.
 

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Hello,

I'm going to clear this up and keep it simple to at most let that sink down. I have linked a spoiler containing any extra arguments in case any of you wonder why I didn't cover the rest.
He is abusing me for replying to a scam report and I don't like it. I was the manager for a graphics team, and one of our clients had created a scam report against one team member. The owner of the team received the upfront payment, and then the artist doing the project never finished - I was pitching in what I thought, because the problem concerned me.
Right off the bat, you are incorrect. How are you involved? Because you manage a Team, you are automatically involved?
Unless you were a witness throughout the deal taken place, you have no reason to be posting. But your post in general holds the same point.

I do not care what you manage. My goal is to resolve the Scam, I found your post completely meaningless. You mention how he wasn't paid by whomever, it does not matter. What matters is that one party was paid for task completion, that task has not been completed. He is offering a simplistic refund or to finish the task assigned.

If Feedable was Scammed by his "Boss" or "Person that hired him", he may file a Scam Report against him. How does your post help any of us?

Firstly, I'd like to say that "manager" is a perfectly valid role - and I do not manage many teams. Please provide proof that I CURRENTLY manage MANY teams. I resigned from quite a few. PLEASE. PROVIDE PROOF.
I never said it isn't a valid role. I only hold a problem when a Manager takes upon they have the automatic right to who is right and who is wrong.
Look here:
Feedable never received said money, and Will bailed.
Who will be bailed? Who's making this call? You?

I never called for anyone to be bailed. When I say bailed, I mean that Will "left with the money."
Then you most definitely used the wrong terminology causing confusion.

I no longer manage the team, don't know why I should be banned as well. Will & Feedable were the only two people that were involved in this deal and I wasn't involved. I was just putting in my input (I also had talked to Feedable.)
And there's the problem.

I believe I have posted this before, you should not be involved in a Scam Report unless:
  • You are the OP, reporting the initial Scam.
  • You are being Reported.
  • You were a witness throughout the deal (Ex: Middleman)
Let's go to your second sentence. "I was putting in my input (I also had talked to Feedable)"
Second you cover that term, I would consider it basically vouching for them.
Because when you vouch, you hold a positive input. Only this "input" of yours was in general meaningless.

I don't manage many teams, many people have said this and it really pisses me off. I have heard the claims before and I am sorry to say that I used to be. I have really cut down and haven't been managing very many servers/teams/people lately.
Easily arguable with you, I don't like telling items that are discrete.

I suppose anyone else who knows what I am talking about may comment on their own part. I am rather concerned about what was told to me, especially when I know the person(s) I speak with has never held this much tension against your "Business"

Reconsider my actions on these forums? What, are you going to ban me for replying to a scam report? I am truly disappointed with this useless claim you have made against me.
There is no use of issuing a ban? You must be escalating the issue. Sadly, I am not disappointed a tad bit with my message today.

Let us review my message once more:
Kind of fed up with this "Manager" role. There's a reason no one likes a "Manager" who takes upon so many teams, just makes you look like a power seeker really. I'd have to ask for you to step down from any contribution of future Scam Reports unless it involves you. As harsh as this may sound, I advise you reconsider your actions on these Forums.
Should have replaced "Forums" with this specific section (Scam Reports) but I was hoping you got the point from your mistake.

MazdaGaming - oops, I mean "the mature" M6 - on the other hand, goes completely out of his way to say that I should reconsider my acts on this forum and that I am a "power-seeker" for being a manager and offering my services. WELL I WILL HAVE YOU KNOW THAT MOST OF MY BOSSES (INCLUDING WILL) HAVE CONTACTED ME to work for them. I didn't SEEK FOR POWER.
I didn't go out of my way actually.

I no longer manage the team, don't know why I should be banned as well. Will & Feedable were the only two people that were involved in this deal and I wasn't involved. I was just putting in my input (I also had talked to Feedable.)
My statement was directly:
No one will be "Bailed", with all respect - you as a Manager should not be responding on behalf of whoever - You will not be protecting anyone, unless at the end your client is found guilty and we should consider banning you too.
When you cover for someone, it's like taking a bullet. You taking a bullet if someone is found guilty raises questions against you - How are you involved? What will be your reaction to it? Do we see any risk in your future on our Forums?

People who aren't involved with scam reports reply all the time - What do you mean by "I'd have to ask for you to step down from any contribution of future Scam Reports unless it involves you."
A few of them point out very good arguments, others ask questions which I could ask as well

I take pride in what I do as a management provider, and your reply really doesn't provide any proof that I am a "power-seeker" as you claim.
Same message already directed to you.

Thank you.
 

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Okay, most of you don't know Reno like I do, so let me educate you before you continue to babble on about things you have no business butting into.

Reno has always had issues with power. I don't want to talk about his past with PRX, but since he kinda walked into this, you guys should probably know. First, Reno used to apply over and over for a staff position at Prx-craft. How he eventually got it, none of us fellow ex-staff will ever know. He was a pain in the neck to work with, always wanting to edit threads and junk to make him look more famous. Eventually, he was banned for unknown reasons, which he can explain if he so desires.

Since then, he's always been a BIG time suck up to anyone of power. Please feel free to look at this if you don't believe me: http://prxcraft.com/threads/staff.212/#post-1383. He even ADMITS he is power hungry. I have a friend who says working with him on another server is murder because he wants so much control.

So stop jumping on the band wagon and hating on M6 just because Reno was offended by the truth.

*Sorry Reno, I mean this in no disrespect. You're just....hard to deal with in the staff world. When you aren't desperate for staff positions, you're a really nice guy and a good friend.
 

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Okay, most of you don't know Reno like I do, so let me educate you before you continue to babble on about things you have no business butting into.

Reno has always had issues with power. I don't want to talk about his past with PRX, but since he kinda walked into this, you guys should probably know. First, Reno used to apply over and over for a staff position at Prx-craft. How he eventually got it, none of us fellow ex-staff will ever know. He was a pain in the neck to work with, always wanting to edit threads and junk to make him look more famous. Eventually, he was banned for unknown reasons, which he can explain if he so desires.

Since then, he's always been a BIG time suck up to anyone of power. Please feel free to look at this if you don't believe me: http://prxcraft.com/threads/staff.212/#post-1383. He even ADMITS he is power hungry. I have a friend who says working with him on another server is murder because he wants so much control.

So stop jumping on the band wagon and hating on M6 just because Reno was offended by the truth.
Okay, most of you don't know Reno like I do, so let me educate you before you continue to babble on about things you have no business butting into.

Reno has always had issues with power. I don't want to talk about his past with PRX, but since he kinda walked into this, you guys should probably know. First, Reno used to apply over and over for a staff position at Prx-craft. How he eventually got it, none of us fellow ex-staff will ever know. He was a pain in the neck to work with, always wanting to edit threads and junk to make him look more famous. Eventually, he was banned for unknown reasons, which he can explain if he so desires.

Since then, he's always been a BIG time suck up to anyone of power. Please feel free to look at this if you don't believe me: http://prxcraft.com/threads/staff.212/#post-1383. He even ADMITS he is power hungry. I have a friend who says working with him on another server is murder because he wants so much control.

So stop jumping on the band wagon and hating on M6 just because Reno was offended by the truth.

*Sorry Reno, I mean this in no disrespect. You're just....hard to deal with in the staff world. When you aren't desperate for staff positions, you're a really nice guy and a good friend.
So because he wants to be a staff member on a server and make threads look better he's power hungry? Wouldn't that make anyone who applies for staff practically power hungry? His comment could also be taken in a joking manner as seen by the ":p".
 

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Okay, most of you don't know Reno like I do, so let me educate you before you continue to babble on about things you have no business butting into.

Reno has always had issues with power. I don't want to talk about his past with PRX, but since he kinda walked into this, you guys should probably know. First, Reno used to apply over and over for a staff position at Prx-craft. How he eventually got it, none of us fellow ex-staff will ever know. He was a pain in the neck to work with, always wanting to edit threads and junk to make him look more famous. Eventually, he was banned for unknown reasons, which he can explain if he so desires.

Since then, he's always been a BIG time suck up to anyone of power. Please feel free to look at this if you don't believe me: http://prxcraft.com/threads/staff.212/#post-1383. He even ADMITS he is power hungry. I have a friend who says working with him on another server is murder because he wants so much control.

So stop jumping on the band wagon and hating on M6 just because Reno was offended by the truth.
Okay, most of you don't know Reno like I do, so let me educate you before you continue to babble on about things you have no business butting into.

Reno has always had issues with power. I don't want to talk about his past with PRX, but since he kinda walked into this, you guys should probably know. First, Reno used to apply over and over for a staff position at Prx-craft. How he eventually got it, none of us fellow ex-staff will ever know. He was a pain in the neck to work with, always wanting to edit threads and junk to make him look more famous. Eventually, he was banned for unknown reasons, which he can explain if he so desires.

Since then, he's always been a BIG time suck up to anyone of power. Please feel free to look at this if you don't believe me: http://prxcraft.com/threads/staff.212/#post-1383. He even ADMITS he is power hungry. I have a friend who says working with him on another server is murder because he wants so much control.

So stop jumping on the band wagon and hating on M6 just because Reno was offended by the truth.

*Sorry Reno, I mean this in no disrespect. You're just....hard to deal with in the staff world. When you aren't desperate for staff positions, you're a really nice guy and a good friend.
I completely understand. Although, being myself - I never saw myself as power-hungry. Also, that was just a joke, me wanting to be staff on Castle. I'm working on not being power-hungry. I don't really see myself as power hungry anymore, and that was a joke, alright?

Also, I wouldn't say that I constantly applied over-and-over at Prx. I never really got denied, just made improvements to my applications - people had hated me there, people hate me here. I've kinda gotten used to people being rather mean to me - especially my close friends.

I wasn't aware that the Prx staff team talked about my behind-my-back.

I also wasn't aware that people saw me as "tryhard" because I simply re-posted the forum rules.... And added to them. The only people that really appreciated me were Kev himself, sometimes David and Coco.


Honestly, I think I've grown from that and this staff position stuff you are talking about has nothing to do with this thread - I was basically explaining my point of view on a scam report (which doesn't have to do with any server of any sort) - and I was bashed for claiming I was the manager of the person who was the person who was claimed to be "the scammer." There is no bandwagon. I've not created one.

Nonetheless, M6 has explained his comments and I'm sorry for causing this drama.
 
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