Mature Section

[Sloth]

So recently I've seen a lot of people complaining (Including Myself) in the shoutbox about how we can't talk about certain topics because they are not "PG". While in a way I understand where the staff are coming from with this, it's not fair to the older/users who act older to "pretend" to act "Child-Friendly". One thing needs to be made clear, it is not our job as a community to parent these younger users and shield them from adult content. That's their parents job, and if these parents are letting their kids run rampant across the Internet I feel we shouldn't have to suffer due to the ignorance of parents.

So what I propose is a section of our forums where users can discuss mature/Non-PG related topics without the scrutiny of "Child-Friendly" users and staff. Now this section would only be used to discuss topics that are Non-PG. This does not mean users can just go around posting pornographic content or stories on drugs, no. There will be no talk of sexual activities/drugs in this section. I've simply seen too many communities ruined by attempting to appeal to a younger audience whilst throwing the older audience under the bus.

Now that the suggestion is out of the way, I'm going to argue some of the points that will probably make their way onto this thread:

"This would break the theme of the site" First off, what exactly is the "theme" of this site? In one part of our forums we're selling steam items and in another section we're selling Minecraft builds. So do tell what our "theme" is because I'm just seeing us as an overall marketplace at this point.

"What if little kids find their way onto this section of the forum?" Simple, we have a message stating that this section of the forum contains explicit content and may not be suitable for younger users, viewer discretion advised. With this being stated, if a kid gets onto this part of our forums and doesn't like what they see it's their own fault for ignoring the warnings and the section itself shouldn't suffer to to one's stupidity. (Note, the message would look like this)

Last thing I would like to say is, if a staff member is reading this and doesn't like it. Don't just lock it! I'd like to see more than one opinion on this that isn't from a staff member, but your opinions are also welcomed to be shared. If you agree/disagree please leave a reason thanks!

 

[Sloth]

Then what the hell is the point? we all know 0 of the kids on here are going to heed the warning, so it'll be no different from talking about stuff anywhere else on the forum.

Well that's again, their own fault for not heeding the warning. The only argument anyone can seem to establish on here against this is kids will go on it anyway. With that being said let's just remove Non-PG from the entire forums because kids will still be exposed anyway. Plus, if zero kids care about the warning maybe they want to discuss mature topics?

 

[CakeSG]

Im 11 but ill still lurk in that section lol

 

[Sloth]

Im 11 but ill still lurk in that section lol

If you choose to so be it. Anyone would be welcomed, if people don't like what they see they can simply ignore the section of the forum.

 

[EpicFooF]

OMG THIS IS A GREAT IDEA

 

[Sloth]

This section will be so interesting:

Ikr, the only people to disagree with this are staff members who think that making a new section of the forum takes up too much time xD

 

[morganjp]

While in a way I understand where the staff are coming from with this, it's not fair to the older/users who act older to "pretend" to act "Child-Friendly".

If you want this go to 4Chan, or some obscure subreddit. We don't allow NSFW/pornographic content on the site as it is - and by adding an entire dedicated section to this we would be betraying our users trust of providing them with a safe community.

No matter how much community input goes into this, there are still lines and boundaries which cannot be crossed regarding what we can and can't do. Unfortunately, this just happens to cross one of them.

 

[Sloth]

If you want this go to 4Chan, or some obscure subreddit. We don't allow NSFW/pornographic content on the site as it is - and by adding an entire dedicated section to this we would be betraying our users trust of providing them with a safe community.

No matter how much community input goes into this, there are still lines and boundaries which cannot be crossed regarding what we can and can't do. Unfortunately, this just happens to cross one of them.

Again, do any of you staff members read the actual thread? I state multiple times that pornographic videos/images wouldn't be allowed. There are so many other topics to discuss that don't involve sex but all the staff team seems to do is generalize sex into everything. I'm willing o compromise with this suggestion and not include anything sexual if the staff team is so concerned about this.

 

[Ajdin]

One thing needs to be made clear, it is not our job as a community to parent these younger users and shield them from adult content. That's their parents job

Okay. Let's say we add a "mature section", I'd have to change the age requirement of the forum to +16 and I'm pretty sure most of the kids on here aren't that.

"This would break the theme of the site" First off, what exactly is the "theme" of this site? In one part of our forums we're selling steam items and in another section we're selling Minecraft builds. So do tell what our "theme" is because I'm just seeing us as an overall marketplace at this point.

It's obvious, we're a marketplace. We try to offer a environment where people can sell/buy items to make or spend money. Not sure how your "mature section" could contribute to that.

Last thing I would like to say is, if a staff member is reading this and doesn't like it. Don't just lock it!

Staff doesn't lock suggestions unless it's completely absurd.


I'll let some opinions come in but I'm not too optimistic about this being added. I feel like it would become the 4chan part of the website.

 

[tjrgg]

I simply denied the last suggestion about this. Not just because I disagree with it, because there's just no way this can happen without completely bringing the site as we know it now downhill. This isn't [Censored], guys. We're a MINECRAFT MARKETPLACE forum. Sometimes, I really wonder about the members here and where their heads are at.

If this would be implemented, there would need to be a way to completely block out that stuff for people that don't want to see it. I, for one, sure am not going to moderate it. There is absolutely no reason that justifies adding a mature section to a MINECRAFT forum. Oh my gosh if you're parents only knew you were asking for this.

I sure as hell wouldn't want to be anywhere near this forum with something like this implemented. Oh, the legal implications alone aren't worth the hassle.

This is absurd in my opinion and I honestly can't believe this would be considered at all. Very disappointed.

 

[Sloth]

I simply denied the last suggestion about this. Not just because I disagree with it, because there's just no way this can happen without completely bringing the site as we know it now downhill. This isn't [Censored], guys. We're a MINECRAFT MARKETPLACE forum. Sometimes, I really wonder about the members here and where their heads are at.

If this would be implemented, there would need to be a way to completely block out that stuff for people that don't want to see it. I, for one, sure am not going to moderate it. There is absolutely no reason that justifies adding a mature section to a MINECRAFT forum. Oh my gosh if you're parents only knew you were asking for this.

I sure as hell wouldn't want to be anywhere near this forum with something like this implemented. Oh, the legal implications alone aren't worth the hassle.

This is absurd in my opinion and I honestly can't believe this would be considered at all. Very disappointed.

Again, for what, the 5th time I believe, yes. This wouldn't be a porn section, it seems the entire staff team loves to generalize this into that. I even stated that we could ban the talk of sex completely to discuss other mature topics if the staff team is so worried. I believe our heads are in different places, some of us would simply just like to talk about some non-business/Minecraft related topics from time to time that are non kid appropriate. Honestly most of our parents wouldn't care if we started discussing Non-PG content. I mean I'm not going to speak for the users that agreed to this but my relationship to my parents involves a lot of mature discussions that children wouldn't comprehend. I guess that's rather absurd I know. I don't know if you guys have seen, but people have already discussed topics such as rape, porn, sex, and one user even sent a crocodile dick pick via the shoutbox. How are users being shielded from that? As far as I've come to see, they get a verbal warning to stop and give or take 5 minutes later the topic is back. In conclusion, I don't really see how you're disappointed. Hell, I didn't even know taking up conversations that are not fit for children is condemned to be a bad thing.

 

[tjrgg]

Again, for what, the 5th time I believe, yes. This wouldn't be a porn section, it seems the entire staff team loves to generalize this into that. I even stated that we could ban the talk of sex completely to discuss other mature topics if the staff team is so worried. I believe our heads are in different places, some of us would simply just like to talk about some non-business/Minecraft related topics from time to time that are non kid appropriate. Honestly most of our parents wouldn't care if we started discussing Non-PG content. I mean I'm not going to speak for the users that agreed to this but my relationship to my parents involves a lot of mature discussions that children wouldn't comprehend. I guess that's rather absurd I know. I don't know if you guys have seen, but people have already discussed topics such as rape, porn, sex, and one user even sent a crocodile dick pick via the shoutbox. How are users being shielded from that? As far as I've come to see, they get a verbal warning to stop and give or take 5 minutes later the topic is back. In conclusion, I don't really see how you're disappointed. Hell, I didn't even know taking up conversations that are not fit for children is condemned to be a bad thing.

Perhaps I'm jumping to conclusions. There is an off-topic discussion section already. If you believe that the discussion is appropriate for MC-Market, then you believe it's appropriate for all members on this forum. A mature section isn't needed.

 

[Sloth]

Perhaps I'm jumping to conclusions. There is an off-topic discussion section already. If you believe that the discussion is appropriate for MC-Market, then you believe it's appropriate for all members on this forum. A mature section isn't needed.

I mean I do know where you guys are coming from. It's just most of the people here who agreed just want to talk about topics not suitable for kids. If we post in the shoutbox or even the off-topic section we're more than likely inclined to getting warnings.

 

[tjrgg]

I mean I do know where you guys are coming from. It's just most of the people here who agreed just want to talk about topics not suitable for kids. If we post in the shoutbox or even the off-topic section we're more than likely inclined to getting warnings.

If you want to talk about topics not suitable for kids/work, then it's not suitable for MC-Market.

If you want a forum where you can talk about things not suitable for kids, create a forum of your own. You know, it's a free market. You can do that.

 

[tjrgg]

Lets say we wanted to talk about a off topic discussion, then there is that sub-forum. But I got 2 warning points for saying "Fuck". So I guess what Sloth is sayings that it does always have to be about sex, but you are able to freely say what you want to say.

Well, this isn't a place where you can say whatever you want, contrary to popular belief. And a new forum isn't going to change that.

 

[Sloth]

Well, this isn't a place where you can say whatever you want, contrary to popular belief. And a new forum isn't going to change that.

I mean by doing everything for children and children alone the community is essentially throwing the older members of the community under the bus. Business itself isn't meant for children either. That's why we don't see children running shops and markets. A marketplace is also about respecting other people's beliefs while competing. By only adhering to children you only adhere to their beliefs.[DOUBLEPOST=1460294643][/DOUBLEPOST]Another thing, there have been posts regarding the dangers of this, which is fine, but I'd like to see some posts coming from younger members. I want to hear their opinions on this since this basically goes against them.

 

[Citrus]

Would love to see this.
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