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So what are the longterm effects do you think?

And ofcourse, if pills work dont get into it. But my brother used to use these pills and it made him a zombie litteraly. He didn't say anything, slept more than he was awake and got very depressive because of that. There are many times that pills have just more negative effects than positive. So while he was hyperactive without he was very passive with pills. Cannabis was the best combination between both. But I get your point

Well long term effects like on your lungs, Because you are not breathing in air, it still is a type of smoke thats going in there. Reguardless of how the drug is made, your still breathing in smoke.
 

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Well long term effects like on your lungs, Because you are not breathing in air, it still is a type of smoke thats going in there. Reguardless of how the drug is made, your still breathing in smoke.

Well yeah, it has indeed the same effects as smoking. Thats a good argument I guess. Do you think it should be legalized?
 

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Well yeah, it has indeed the same effects as smoking. Thats a good argument I guess. Do you think it should be legalized?

Yes and no, If they had a more clear definition of the type of marijuana, then yes, so long as its the more lab refined version for the use of medical use. However, I do know people that smoke the non-medical version, and it really isnt a good thing.[DOUBLEPOST=1506001665][/DOUBLEPOST]
He just doesn’t understand Trooper no point in wasting time at this point. This is why I try to stay out of these topics with kids. They literally think they know everything about a subject they have no research on.

I dont think I know everything, hence why im posting on here what i know, so others can share their understanding and if it is similar. Thats the whole point of a debate, to understand the views of the other side, and i do now have a better understanding thanks to Troooper, because of the fact that he told me his view as someone who has a sibling that uses medical marijuana because of ADHD, and because I know have information from the other side's point of view, I now think that there are some cases that medical marijuana is a good thing, but shouldent be the first thing you try due to the long term effects.
 
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Yes and no, If they had a more clear definition of the type of marijuana, then yes, so long as its the more lab refined version for the use of medical use. However, I do know people that smoke the non-medical version, and it really isnt a good thing.

So you said the negative effect was the impact on your longues. So why is smoking legal and cannabis not? Why do you only think medical use should be legal? (Which it already is in many countries and states, 29 stats in america compared to 9 for no medical use)
 

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So you said the negative effect was the impact on your longues. So why is smoking legal and cannabis not? Why do you only think medical use should be legal? (Which it already is in many countries and states, 29 stats in america compared to 9 for no medical use)

I personaly think smokeing is legal because its currently one of the things they cant strait up ban. I think its something that they are slowly trying to make illegal, but first they have to get it out of the majority part of the population. You cant really strait up ban something that more than like 1/16th of the population uses, as not only will they be mad, but also people that want to support their viewpoint will be aswell. Again, medical should be, but only the more refined versions that help remove some of the negitive effects of the drug. But it also needs to have a more strict use of it, because of the chances that other people may get it. I do think it might be worth a shot to try useing a more refined version of the drug, to slowly get rid of the addiction that some people have (as in the people who smoke it illegaly to get high.) My friend got addicted to it at around the age of 15, and has started to try to get off of it and other drugs at around the age of 18, but its one of the things that is really hard to strait up stop doing.
 

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DISCLAIMER: I am not a consistent weed user, however I have tried it twice for the experience.

Cons with weed:

1. Bad for your lungs if smoked.
2. Can make you gain weight since you feel hungry while using.
3. Not legal in most places of the world.
4. You can get addicted.
5. Temporary impairments on memory and learning (can be prolonged if use is consistent and in high concentration).
6. May make you anxious, paranoid or depressed.

Pros with weed (for non-medical use/for people who don't suffer from any sicknesses):
1. Can relieve stress/decrease anxiety.
2. Can make you more creative.
3. Helps regulate blood sugar.
4. Smells nice.

My opinion: Many people have stated earlier that as long as the use of weed is in moderation, then it's fine and I agree with that. However unless you suffer from extreme anxiety/stress I don't see the point of using weed alone.
Sure it can make you feel a certain mood, but so can many other things. I don't feel like it's worth it to do it at home alone on your balcony.
Weed is highly overrated, the effects are not as strong as media/cinema shows it to be and there really isn't any sense of "hallucination". It's like the tea of drugs.
Lastly, if you need weed to become "hip n' cool" like all your friends, stop using it.
Just like cigarettes: no one starts smoking because they feel like it, they do it because they feel insecure and want to be part of the "cool kids" that smoke. This just makes you look extremely weak since you're easily influenced by other people and follow like a sheep.
 

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I personaly think smokeing is legal because its currently one of the things they cant strait up ban. I think its something that they are slowly trying to make illegal, but first they have to get it out of the majority part of the population. You cant really strait up ban something that more than like 1/16th of the population uses, as not only will they be mad, but also people that want to support their viewpoint will be aswell. Again, medical should be, but only the more refined versions that help remove some of the negitive effects of the drug. But it also needs to have a more strict use of it, because of the chances that other people may get it. I do think it might be worth a shot to try useing a more refined version of the drug, to slowly get rid of the addiction that some people have (as in the people who smoke it illegaly to get high.) My friend got addicted to it at around the age of 15, and has started to try to get off of it and other drugs at around the age of 18, but its one of the things that is really hard to strait up stop doing.

Well you said you knew "someone who did weed and it is a bad thing", as you're stating here he does other drugs too? Then ofcourse it's bad. ^^ Don't combine weed with other drugs. This also means he is vulnerable for addiction on drugs so in that case ofcourse it's bad. He should go to a pick-up center. These are extreme cases and go further then just smoking some weed...
 

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Well you said you knew "someone who did weed and it is a bad thing", as you're stating here he does other drugs too? Then ofcourse it's bad. ^^ Don't combine weed with other drugs. This also means he is vulnerable for addiction on drugs so in that case ofcourse it's bad. He should go to a pick-up center. These are extreme cases and go further then just smoking some weed...
More like started with weed, then moved to other drugs, then moved back, weird but yeah. Also medical centers are bad, only made him worse. Think about it, putting drug users togeather, some of them being people that sell drugs, not really the smartest move in my book.
 

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More like started with weed, then moved to other drugs, then moved back, weird but yeah. Also medical centers are bad, only made him worse. Think about it, putting drug users togeather, some of them being people that sell drugs, not really the smartest move in my book.

There is no possibility to sell drugs there + they get checked when they get in. Also the people who are in it want to change their life and are not there to sell drugs lol. They are there for their own. They want to get off it and move on with their lives. Its not like a prison lol. It's all about finding the right center. There are really bad ones and there are good ones.
 

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There is no possibility to sell drugs there + they get checked when they get in. Also the people who are in it want to change their life and are not there to sell drugs lol. They are there for their own. They want to get off it and move on with their lives. Its not like a prison lol. It's all about finding the right center. There are really bad ones and there are good ones.
Not 100% true either, sure you cant sell them there, but you then know a new person that you can call up and buy it from. On top of that, not everyone is there out of their own free will, my friend had to go there due to a court decision. But i guess there are better ones out there, its just one of the things that i feel in most cases wont work out.
 

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Everyone saying, "it's bad for you, don't do it unless you wanna screw your life up" is fucking stupid. Marijuana does not have any negative side effects; it's not bad for you. If you wanna try shit that'll actually fuck you up, start tripping acid, or popping Xan's (I've actually done both, but won't do them again). I've been smoking weed almost everyday for the last 2 years, and it hasn't changed me as a person at all. I'm 19 years old, I have a steady job, making $16.50 an hour (US). Im currently going to college for advanced botany, with hopes of starting my own marijuana growery soon. If it is so bad for you, why is it legal? I do live in Colorado, where it is legal to smoke, legal to grow, and legal to buy. Everyone saying that weed is bad, needs a blunt lol. Also, if you play your cards rights, weed is honestly just money that grows on a plant. People literally make livings from growing, selling, & moving weed. If you are a grower, and you successfully grow 30 flowering plants, those 30 plants will make you 6 figures.

Sure everyone has opinions, but some people need to hear it from someone who actually smokes.[DOUBLEPOST=1506004153][/DOUBLEPOST]
I have never smoked weed/marijuana but it is a great thing if used properly. There are no major downsides like cancer or health problems that do harm to your body. Starting marijuana/weed could get you addicted which is why people think its bad and say dont do it, but really marijuana/weed doesn't have anything wrong with it. It is REALLY helpful to people with add/adhd and depression. The hallucinogenic part helps numb and calm the mind to remove pains from disorders/depression/accidents. When a topic comes from weed/marijuana people go onto the bad side due to the fact is the it is hallucinogenic which used at a bad time like driving, you can get into a major accident. If you smoke it in a controlled area like your bedroom/house it is perfectly fine.
Marijuana is not a hallucinogen lmao, try again.[DOUBLEPOST=1506004601][/DOUBLEPOST]
I personaly think smokeing is legal because its currently one of the things they cant strait up ban. I think its something that they are slowly trying to make illegal, but first they have to get it out of the majority part of the population. You cant really strait up ban something that more than like 1/16th of the population uses, as not only will they be mad, but also people that want to support their viewpoint will be aswell. Again, medical should be, but only the more refined versions that help remove some of the negitive effects of the drug. But it also needs to have a more strict use of it, because of the chances that other people may get it. I do think it might be worth a shot to try useing a more refined version of the drug, to slowly get rid of the addiction that some people have (as in the people who smoke it illegaly to get high.) My friend got addicted to it at around the age of 15, and has started to try to get off of it and other drugs at around the age of 18, but its one of the things that is really hard to strait up stop doing.
Might as well just go around, calling people out on their bullshit. FIRST OFF, "they" are not slowly making weed illegal, they just legalized it, why the hell would they illegalize it again? SECONDLY, you cannot and WILL NOT become addicted to marijuana, it is not a drug that you physically and mentally need at all times. I smoke everyday, but I could stop at any time I like, you will never go through withdraws. People who smoke a lot, just simply like to smoke. I personally like the feeling of being high, it puts me in a much more relaxed mood, from which I'm able to socialize easier.[DOUBLEPOST=1506005018][/DOUBLEPOST]
DISCLAIMER: I am not a consistent weed user, however I have tried it twice for the experience.

Cons with weed:

1. Bad for your lungs if smoked.
2. Can make you gain weight since you feel hungry while using.
3. Not legal in most places of the world.
4. You can get addicted.
5. Temporary impairments on memory and learning (can be prolonged if use is consistent and in high concentration).
6. May make you anxious, paranoid or depressed.

Pros with weed (for non-medical use/for people who don't suffer from any sicknesses):
1. Can relieve stress/decrease anxiety.
2. Can make you more creative.
3. Helps regulate blood sugar.
4. Smells nice.

My opinion: Many people have stated earlier that as long as the use of weed is in moderation, then it's fine and I agree with that. However unless you suffer from extreme anxiety/stress I don't see the point of using weed alone.
Sure it can make you feel a certain mood, but so can many other things. I don't feel like it's worth it to do it at home alone on your balcony.
Weed is highly overrated, the effects are not as strong as media/cinema shows it to be and there really isn't any sense of "hallucination". It's like the tea of drugs.
Lastly, if you need weed to become "hip n' cool" like all your friends, stop using it.
Just like cigarettes: no one starts smoking because they feel like it, they do it because they feel insecure and want to be part of the "cool kids" that smoke. This just makes you look extremely weak since you're easily influenced by other people and follow like a sheep.
1. Yeah, if you combine cigarettes with it. Smoking weed alone is not going to harm your lungs, unless maybe you smoke an eighth a day for 7 years straight (Keep in mind that would be around $70,000-$80,000).
2. No lol, sure you get hungry when you are high, but you also still get full and will stop eating lmao.
3. Okay?
4. No you can't lol. Marijuana is not an addictive drug. Cigarettes are addictive, heroin is addictive, meth is addictive; weed is not.
5. No? Where the hell did you pull this from?
6. This is actually true, depending on strain, you may get a sense of paranoia while still high, but this isn't really too bad, because you'll eventually snap out of it.

1. Yup.
2. This is very true, I'm a builder, and I don't build without being high; it just allows me to come up with crazy ideas for builds, and perfectly execute them.
3. Okay
4. It really does.
 
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Everyone saying, "it's bad for you, don't do it unless you wanna screw your life up" is fucking stupid. Marijuana does not have any negative side effects; it's not bad for you. If you wanna try shit that'll actually fuck you up, start tripping acid, or popping Xan's (I've actually done both, but won't do them again). I've been smoking weed almost everyday for the last 2 years, and it hasn't changed me as a person at all. I'm 19 years old, I have a steady job, making $16.50 an hour (US). Im currently going to college for advanced botany, with hopes of starting my own marijuana growery soon. If it is so bad for you, why is it legal? I do live in Colorado, where it is legal to smoke, legal to grow, and legal to buy. Everyone saying that weed is bad, needs a blunt lol. Also, if you play your cards rights, weed is honestly just money that grows on a plant. People literally make livings from growing, selling, & moving weed. If you are a grower, and you successfully grow 30 flowering plants, those 30 plants will make you 6 figures.

Sure everyone has opinions, but some people need to hear it from someone who actually smokes.[DOUBLEPOST=1506004153][/DOUBLEPOST]
Marijuana is not a hallucinogen lmao, try again.[DOUBLEPOST=1506004601][/DOUBLEPOST]
Might as well just go around, calling people out on their bullshit. FIRST OFF, "they" are not slowly making weed illegal, they just legalized it, why the hell would they illegalize it again? SECONDLY, you cannot and WILL NOT become addicted to marijuana, it is not a drug that you physically and mentally need at all times. I smoke everyday, but I could stop at any time I like, you will never go through withdraws. People who smoke a lot, just simply like to smoke. I personally like the feeling of being high, it puts me in a much more relaxed mood, from which I'm able to socialize easier.[DOUBLEPOST=1506005018][/DOUBLEPOST]
1. Yeah, if you combine cigarettes with it. Smoking weed alone is not going to harm your lungs, unless maybe you smoke an eighth a day for 7 years straight (Keep in mind that would be around $70,000-$80,000).
2. No lol, sure you get hungry when you are high, but you also still get full and will stop eating lmao.
3. Okay?
4. No you can't lol. Marijuana is not an addictive drug. Cigarettes are addictive, heroin is addictive, meth is addictive; weed is not.
5. No? Where the hell did you pull this from?
6. This is actually true, depending on strain, you may get a sense of paranoia while still high, but this isn't really too bad, because you'll eventually snap out of it.

1. Yup.
2. This is very true, I'm a builder, and I don't build without being high; it just allows me to come up with crazy ideas for builds, and perfectly execute them.
3. Okay
4. It really does.
You're basically denying everything bad about weed and agreeing with everything good about it. That's not how it works, you can't just tell yourself the cons of weed don't exist in hopes of reassuring yourself that you're not doing any harm to yourself.
 

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You're basically denying everything bad about weed and agreeing with everything good about it. That's not how it works, you can't just tell yourself the cons of weed don't exist in hopes of reassuring yourself that you're not doing any harm to yourself.
There are cons, such as it's expensive, it can get you in trouble, etc. However, there are no negative MEDICAL effects. Like did you know that eating weed, is actually good for you? It won't get you high, and it's similar to eating basil or parsley.
 

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There are cons, such as it's expensive, it can get you in trouble, etc. However, there are no negative MEDICAL effects. Like did you know that eating weed, is actually good for you? It won't get you high, and it's similar to eating basil or parsley.
There ARE negative medical effects, such as learning and memory impairments or paranoia. You might not believe it, or maybe you don't feel it as much as someone else (like paranoia), but these things are there and they are well known negative effects of marijuana.
 

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1. Bad for your lungs if smoked.
2. Can make you gain weight since you feel hungry while using.
1. Smoke with water, easier on the lungs.
2. Smoking weed can help you lose weight more than gain weight.
4. You can get addicted.
5. Temporary impairments on memory and learning (can be prolonged if use is consistent and in high concentration).
6. May make you anxious, paranoid or depressed.
4. Not necessarily. Addicted is a strong term for the use of marijuana.
5. Weed can be used with ADHD to help concentrate for better learning etc.
6. Weed helps with Anxiety, and Depression so false.[DOUBLEPOST=1506007252][/DOUBLEPOST]
1. Smoke with water, easier on the lungs.
2. Smoking weed can help you lose weight more than gain weight.

4. Not necessarily. Addicted is a strong term for the use of marijuana.
5. Weed can be used with ADHD to help concentrate for better learning etc.
6. Weed helps with Anxiety, and Depression so false.
Although, If used with other drugs or mixed with different chemicals, it can play affect. But that's different.
 

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Opinions are pretty high tbh.. ;)
 

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Everyone saying, "it's bad for you, don't do it unless you wanna screw your life up" is fucking stupid. Marijuana does not have any negative side effects; it's not bad for you. If you wanna try shit that'll actually fuck you up, start tripping acid, or popping Xan's (I've actually done both, but won't do them again). I've been smoking weed almost everyday for the last 2 years, and it hasn't changed me as a person at all. I'm 19 years old, I have a steady job, making $16.50 an hour (US). Im currently going to college for advanced botany, with hopes of starting my own marijuana growery soon. If it is so bad for you, why is it legal? I do live in Colorado, where it is legal to smoke, legal to grow, and legal to buy. Everyone saying that weed is bad, needs a blunt lol. Also, if you play your cards rights, weed is honestly just money that grows on a plant. People literally make livings from growing, selling, & moving weed. If you are a grower, and you successfully grow 30 flowering plants, those 30 plants will make you 6 figures.

Sure everyone has opinions, but some people need to hear it from someone who actually smokes.[DOUBLEPOST=1506004153][/DOUBLEPOST]
Marijuana is not a hallucinogen lmao, try again.[DOUBLEPOST=1506004601][/DOUBLEPOST]
Might as well just go around, calling people out on their bullshit. FIRST OFF, "they" are not slowly making weed illegal, they just legalized it, why the hell would they illegalize it again? SECONDLY, you cannot and WILL NOT become addicted to marijuana, it is not a drug that you physically and mentally need at all times. I smoke everyday, but I could stop at any time I like, you will never go through withdraws. People who smoke a lot, just simply like to smoke. I personally like the feeling of being high, it puts me in a much more relaxed mood, from which I'm able to socialize easier.[DOUBLEPOST=1506005018][/DOUBLEPOST]
1. Yeah, if you combine cigarettes with it. Smoking weed alone is not going to harm your lungs, unless maybe you smoke an eighth a day for 7 years straight (Keep in mind that would be around $70,000-$80,000).
2. No lol, sure you get hungry when you are high, but you also still get full and will stop eating lmao.
3. Okay?
4. No you can't lol. Marijuana is not an addictive drug. Cigarettes are addictive, heroin is addictive, meth is addictive; weed is not.
5. No? Where the hell did you pull this from?
6. This is actually true, depending on strain, you may get a sense of paranoia while still high, but this isn't really too bad, because you'll eventually snap out of it.

1. Yup.
2. This is very true, I'm a builder, and I don't build without being high; it just allows me to come up with crazy ideas for builds, and perfectly execute them.
3. Okay
4. It really does.

I wasnt talking about weed, i was talking about normal cigs, if you kept up with my previous comments you would have realised that i was replying to a question someone asked me. Second off, im just just talking about medicle marijuana, im also talking about the illegal kind that will get you extreamly high, and other issues.
 

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1. Smoke with water, easier on the lungs.
2. Smoking weed can help you lose weight more than gain weight.

4. Not necessarily. Addicted is a strong term for the use of marijuana.
5. Weed can be used with ADHD to help concentrate for better learning etc.
6. Weed helps with Anxiety, and Depression so false.[DOUBLEPOST=1506007252][/DOUBLEPOST]
Although, If used with other drugs or mixed with different chemicals, it can play affect. But that's different.
I can sort of agree for your first 3 points, but weed does cause temporary learning and memory impairments and it can cause paranoia, anxiety or depression (the effects are of course different for everyone both in intensity and duration).

And for people with ADHD, it helps with concentration not learning, there is a difference.
 
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I can sort of agree for your first 3 points, but weed does cause temporary learning and memory impairments and it can cause paranoia, anxiety or depression (the effects are of course different for everyone both in intensity and duration).
It can, but when used correctly, it can also help cure those problems.
 
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