What Hitler believed in is irrelevant to the cause of the war. He couldn't have gone to war without supporters. And people supported him because of the bad economic situation in Germany at that time. But anyhow, even if it was entirely a religious war, I'm not sure why I want to argue that. I mean, it only strenghthens my point. That is all religion has to offer.
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What Hitler believed in is irrelevant to the cause of the war. He couldn't have gone to war without supporters. And people supported him because of the bad economic situation in Germany at that time. But anyhow, even if it was entirely a religious war, I'm not sure why I want to argue that. I mean, it only strenghthens my point. That is all religion has to offer.
I'm not saying it was entirely a religious war. I'm just saying that it was part of it
.[DOUBLEPOST=1447537588,1447537481][/DOUBLEPOST]And yea, completely agree. That's all religion has to offer.Religion was created back when they knew pretty much nothing. It was a way to control the public.
Exactly that!
religion today brings people together during churchI'm not saying it was entirely a religious war. I'm just saying that it was part of it
Religion was created back when they knew pretty much nothing. It was a way to control the public.
it also inspires lots of people to donate to charity and to do other good deeds ^_^ god has made me a better person kreligion today brings people together during church
religion today brings people together during church
Religion brings together people through church? Yes, and then they leave the church in their expensive cars, wearing golden crosses that have no real purpose other than making priests rich. A big portion of the money in the candle counter end up in the pockets of priests (I've seen it first-hand).
It inspires people to do good deeds? Stephen Hawking, Alan Turing, Thomas Edison, Andrei Sakharov + a ton of other people did good deeds without being inspired by any god. And their deeds helped the whole humanity, not one or two people.
Here's your proof, you can be good without believing in god.
If you want to bring logic in this arguement, at least don't use things you learnt in primary school. Grow up!
if you cant accept that other people have different beliefs than you, you're the one who needs to grow up ^_^ there are religious people who do good deeds and there are non-religious people who do good deeds, whether they benefit humanity entirely or just a few people. there are also religious people who do bad things and non-religious people who do bad things. one group is not better than the other
Alright, if you want to bring logic into this argument, then let's discuss the merits that religion has had on society as a whole. Many historians agree that religion has been the key to humanity's success throughout history, as the unity and code of ethics that religion provides uniformly to each specific society has provided a platform through which innovation has been possible. All of the modern philosophies and ideals that govern our world were created by those who follow religion in some form or another, as most of our current society's established norms hail from the time of the Greeks, whose writings were immensely influential upon the course of world history. And what religion were the Greeks? Many of the most famous Greek philosophers opposed the idea of the gods, but all of them believed in the supernatural to some extent, and not a one of them was an avowed atheist or disbeliever. It is from the seed of Greece that the entire modern world has sprouted, and from Greece, to Rome, to the Islamic caliphates in the Golden Age, to the medieval kingdoms of Europe, religion has been a central element in successful societies. The simple fact is that for large-scale societies to exist, there has to be some sort of prime, unifying factor that brings everyone together and makes it so that they do not kill one another. Prior to the rise of the United States and the modern era, religion was that unifying factor almost exclusively. Only with the establishment of "People Power" and the shifting tide brought about by Napoleon's revolution did this change, with the unifying factor changing to that of nationalism. There are states that take the concept of nationalism to the extreme, and these states have proven themselves to be regimes of terror, such as Nazi Germany, and the Soviet Union. In realizing this, one must look at religion in a different light, and respect its role in establishing a modern world, as, without religion, none of what we have today would be possible. It was necessary to have a driving unifying force to aid in the establishment of large governmental entities such as the Roman Empire, and today, it's just as necessary in the third world as it was in the past for the first world.
Religion taken to an extreme is, like anything taken to the extreme, a bad thing. Religion in moderation, however, is fine.
All that stuff is on live leak
idk the video he is talking about, but there's this one-
I've also seem some REALLY HARSH Mexican cartel executions. Not going to link them though
It's really harsh. Guy get's beheaded by a chain saw. Pretty gnarly.[DOUBLEPOST=1447544788,1447544752][/DOUBLEPOST]I'll just PM you it. Not in the mood to get banned xD And it's not letting me put it in a spoiler
montyburly What you said is true, but at the same time religion has caused wars and more. The idea of religion is great for the people, but, as a whole, it can be (and has been) problematic.
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