People still believe Mojang browse market forums :P

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You realize they can't just lock accounts because they see it posted/linked here?

They can't just rely on a 3rd party verification system (for example MCM's) and lock accounts that way. I think it's more of a legal concern.

Do they browse the site? Who knows, maybe they do (Hi Mojang!). Will they lock accounts because they are simply posted here? No, definitely not.

They locked EA and even told Richest that it was because it was being resold even though it wasn't resold.

It's a known fact that you know yourself Marc_IRL is watching on an alt.

 

[Ajdin]

Mojang browse/browsed these forums. I tested this with one of my locked accounts. After emailing mojang and having an extended discussion with them about the reason for the lock, they explained it was due to the account being "resold". This account was never on the market, and I had it for a good 2 months. One day I decide to put it up on Mc-Market, and literally the next day the account is locked. You know if you really wanted to believe it was a coincidence seeing as how it pretty much never changed emails, then that's fine, I just don't know how it can be explained that a Mojang support employee himself told me the account was locked due to it being "resold". Keep in mind this was an account worth around $500. Locked the next day after putting it up for sale? Told it was locked due to it being resold?

This has happened to other people's accounts as well, as most members from OGN know. I haven't heard from any recent cases this month, but it definitely has happened. The Mojang enforcement team aren't stupid just saying. Instead of making a thread based on other people's research, do your own research and ask first-hand witnesses.


Also 8 was a legit account made via an exploit. Mojang doesn't have the right to delete it as real money was used to pay for the gift code, regardless if it was made via an exploit. That's why they haven't locked it nor G despite them clearly knowing they are exploited accounts. They just refuse to provide support for them.

So much misinformation these days smh.

Let's get Doge his opinion here. He's well informed probably. AFAIK, there was only 1 lock wave. Mojang has blocked accounts left and right in the past (for example Mick's because he was being a lying dick about it (lol)). I highly doubt they effectively refresh the site on daily basis waiting for accounts to be sold and proceeding to lock them.

Let's also not forget, this was at the time Marc_IRL used to be active under his main.

The Mojang employee might aswell have noticed that the account had suspicious login activity on it if you have sold it to someone after it was posted. Again, this was probably a while ago when they had the time and resources for this.

I'm not active in the account business so I might just be completely wrong. This is just my 2 cents.[DOUBLEPOST=1474572737][/DOUBLEPOST]

It's a known fact that you know yourself Marc_IRL is watching on an alt.

Marc isn't even on the same position he used to be a few months ago. Right now he usually just manages Minecraft Realm stuff.

 

[Doge]

Let's get Doge his opinion here. He's well informed probably. AFAIK, there was only 1 lock wave. Mojang has blocked accounts left and right in the past (for example Mick's because he was being a lying dick about it (lol)). I highly doubt they effectively refresh the site on daily basis waiting for accounts to be sold and proceeding to lock them.

Let's also not forget, this was at the time Marc_IRL used to be active under his main.

The Mojang employee might aswell have noticed that the account had suspicious login activity on it if you have sold it to someone after it was posted. Again, this was probably a while ago when they had the time and resources for this.

I'm not active in the account business so I might just be completely wrong. This is just my 2 cents.[DOUBLEPOST=1474572737][/DOUBLEPOST]
Marc isn't even on the same position he used to be a few months ago. Right now he usually just manages Minecraft Realm stuff.

That's correct. There's the automated lock system based on migration times and IPs which we all know of, the two accounts Marc locked himself (Ew and Mick's account), accounts which multiple people had the TIDs to and the Darkone anomaly.

I know of about 2-3 people that got the "resold" response, and in each of those cases there was a TID which multiple people had and used which gave them a reason to lock it. Then there's Darkone's case which I have seen nothing like elsewhere. I doubt it's because they saw it on this forum. I can't imagine them going for that single account and not touching the hundreds of others that were listed at the time. If they truly were watching Minecraft sales forums, they'd send out their EULA enforcement team to analyze each account and we'd have a surge of people talking about it rather than the few cases we see here and there.

 

[TChimp]

If mojang were actually browsing these forums, then all of our accounts would've been locked already.

I mean, come on.
Why would mojang just lock a few accounts and leave the rest?

 

[Overlord]

Mojang browse/browsed these forums. I tested this with one of my locked accounts. After emailing mojang and having an extended discussion with them about the reason for the lock, they explained it was due to the account being "resold". This account was never on the market, and I had it for a good 2 months. One day I decide to put it up on Mc-Market, and literally the next day the account is locked. You know if you really wanted to believe it was a coincidence seeing as how it pretty much never changed emails, then that's fine, I just don't know how it can be explained that a Mojang support employee himself told me the account was locked due to it being "resold". Keep in mind this was an account worth around $500. Locked the next day after putting it up for sale? Told it was locked due to it being resold?

This has happened to other people's accounts as well, as most members from OGN know. I haven't heard from any recent cases this month, but it definitely has happened. The Mojang enforcement team aren't stupid just saying. Instead of making a thread based on other people's research, do your own research and ask first-hand witnesses.


Also 8 was a legit account made via an exploit. Mojang doesn't have the right to delete it as real money was used to pay for the gift code, regardless if it was made via an exploit. That's why they haven't locked it nor G despite them clearly knowing they are exploited accounts. They just refuse to provide support for them.

So much misinformation these days smh.

That doesn't sound accurate. I can make a post saying I own the account darkone and am selling it, and it will be banned. There is no way to prove a random post is the account owner until it's actually sold and there is IP changes, which you can also say you relocated, tbh. If this happens a lot, it's fishy.

Just for posting a thread they won't do anything, because they can't. I could effectively get every account locked then. So your story doesn't add up, you must've actually sold it.

 

[Overlord]

I skim read your post, but you said you just listed it, you didn't mention it was actually sold. If you did, yeah... I skim read.

However, you could just claim relocation.

 

[Overlord]

Look at that reply. They explicitly said it was sold. I never sold it. Ever.[DOUBLEPOST=1474829910][/DOUBLEPOST]
It seems a little odd that after owning it for a long while, they decide to lock it literally the next day after I made an McM post.

So, confirming here (because I'm a bit confused with the story), you listed the account on this site, you did NOT sell it to anyone yet, and it was locked?

Yeahhhh... That's not possible. That would be a huge PR nightmare for Mojang and a big risk to operate like that. I could just write random accounts and post them and say I own them and am selling them. There's no way to link a thread to a Minecraft (or any other, for that matter) account. The only way to have even remotely decent evidence is for it to be sold, a new user to log in from a new IP and geolocation and then they can have a good idea that it's been sold.[DOUBLEPOST=1474830274][/DOUBLEPOST]

I took down my thread.

Shouldn't have done that.

BTW, did you just add that part of your response or am I blind? I just saw you quote me and then quote a specific part of my message and post that with no body. I guess I'm blind.

 

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TChimp This is really off-topic, but I think I'm in love with your Eeyore signature pic.

 

[TChimp]

I replied 2 times and it automerged into one.



You couldn't sell an account named Darkone unless you owned it. That's the biggest flaw with this selling system here. In order to post a selling thread, you have to have it linked in your Minecraft association page, meaning you have full access to the account. If an enforcement team member sees an account on here, it means that the person selling it has full access to the account, because that's how the account verification works here.

What is unanswered is the fact that Mojang did not take every account that is being sold here. If they were actually locking accounts being sold here then they would've locked all of them. Why would they just lock a few and leave all the rest that are being sold?

 

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What is unanswered is the fact that Mojang did not take every account that is being sold here. If they were actually locking accounts being sold here then they would've locked all of them. Why would they just lock a few and leave all the rest that are being sold?

I think I might have an answer. I think that you're assuming that Mojang members would be thorough and consistent in their search-and-lock tactics. Like, you're assuming that they'd stalk this site 24/7 and ensure that they lock every account that they even remotely think has been sold. Honestly, I think that this is extremely unlikely. These support members have many other aspects to their job, and there's no way that there are people specially hired to check sites to lock accounts. They couldn't possibly check that often.

Instead, I think the nature of their search-and-lock tactics is likely to be much more casual and random. Like, they'll randomly check the site a few times per month and lock a handful of accounts. And there's a decent chance that only a portion of that handful ever complains. Thus explaining why we seldom here of this happening, but when we do, it's almost undeniable evidence of actual humans locking accounts by hand.

I know that this isn't a perfect explanation, but it's my two cents.

 

[TChimp]

I think I might have an answer. I think that you're assuming that Mojang members would be thorough and consistent in their search-and-lock tactics. Like, you're assuming that they'd stalk this site 24/7 and ensure that they lock every account that they even remotely think has been sold. Honestly, I think that this is extremely unlikely. These support members have many other aspects to their job, and there's no way that there are people specially hired to check sites to lock accounts. They couldn't possibly check that often.

Instead, I think the nature of their search-and-lock tactics is likely to be much more casual and random. Like, they'll randomly check the site a few times per month and lock a handful of accounts. And there's a decent chance that only a portion of that handful ever complains. Thus explaining why we seldom here of this happening, but when we do, it's almost undeniable evidence of actual humans locking accounts by hand.

I know that this isn't a perfect explanation, but it's my two cents.

That's possible although highly unlikely, these are the mojang employees that enforce the mojang user agreement. They have a whole division dedicated to brand enforcement.
They wouldn't really waste time just locking a few accounts.

My theory of this happening is of people using cracked accounts to snipe on. These are often re-sold and thus have lots of IP's. I did ask DarkOne whether he used a giftcode or a cracked mojang account that you can purchase for a $1. If he did indeed use a giftcode, then your theory may prove true.

Brand Enforcement
Mathias Andersson
Anna Klingberg
Olle Personne
Matilda Åkerman
Josefin Olsson
Maria Malone
Brandon Andersson
Talia Grunt
Milla Stone
Karl Lowry

 

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That's possible although highly unlikely, these are the mojang employees that enforce the mojang user agreement. They have a whole division dedicated to brand enforcement.
They wouldn't really waste time just locking a few accounts.

My theory of this happening is of people using cracked accounts to snipe on. These are often re-sold and thus have lots of IP's. I did ask DarkOne whether he used a giftcode or a cracked mojang account that you can purchase for a $1. If he did indeed use a giftcode, then your theory may prove true.

Brand Enforcement
Mathias Andersson
Anna Klingberg
Olle Personne
Matilda Åkerman
Josefin Olsson
Maria Malone
Brandon Andersson
Talia Grunt
Milla Stone
Karl Lowry

Ahh, I see. I was still thinking of things as they were in my day (about a year ago), back when Marc and his assistants would personally hand-lock a select few accounts. I didn't realize that they've since then added a whole new devision to brand enforcement. That may invalidate my theory.

Although, it's very possible that brand enforcement entailes a lot more than account locking, and that people are still busy with more demanding tasks all day. If that's the case, then I wouldn't throw my theory out the window just yet…

It's unlikely they'd consistently stalk the site if account locking in general is a small part of their jobs, and the majority of account locking is done by the IP system. It would probably be a rare, random occurrence.