Real Web Development -- What are you guys doing?
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Yes of course! Can I get a link please? I'm having trouble finding your github!
https://github.com/PorterK/kalob-net
Or, click "open source" on the bottom right of my website.
Thanks!
Sure thing
my lord, all these website dev threads in development we might as well remove http://www.mc-market.org/forums/mc-web-development/
Hello,
I somewhat follow what you're saying but I would charge $50 for a website like https://host-atom.com/ does that make me a bad developer? No, not at all. The thing is on this website is everyone wants a portal based website so of course they all look the same.
Also i'm yet to see any websites you have worked on? What makes you any better than another developer? Anyone can word a thread like yours but you need to back up your skills with actual work that I can view.
Kind regards,
Jamie J M
Host-atom.com
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I somewhat follow what you're saying but I would charge $50 for a website like https://host-atom.com/ does that make me a bad developer? No, not at all. The thing is on this website is everyone wants a portal based website so of course they all look the same.
Also i'm yet to see any websites you have worked on? What makes you any better than another developer? Anyone can word a thread like yours but you need to back up your skills with actual work that I can view.
Kind regards,
Jamie J M
Host-atom.com
MC-Market Moderator
Hello, Errota. What you say is well noted -- I don't have any public websites to show besides my own.
Also, note that I said if you're paying $20 or less for a site, you're not getting a quality website, you're most likely getting a template that has been filled in.
"The thing is on this website is everyone wants a portal based website so of course they all look the same."
This statement is assuming that every portal looks the same... ? Why do portal based websites have to look the same? (the answer is a lack of creativity or the usage of other people's work)
What makes me better than any other developer?
Nothing at all -- I am not claiming to be better. I am claiming that my work is original and completely custom.
Anyone can word a thread like yours but you need to back up your skills with actual work that I can view.
I do offer voucher websites, in case anyone like yourself really wants to test my abilities.
The fact of the matter is that I do know what I am talking about when it comes to these things -- I did not just start web development in the past 6 months, or even the past year. If you'd like to say that a lack of "proof" says that I don't, more power to you. I will not argue my skills, because the websites will speak for themselves (if anyone claims vouchers).
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Sorry, this thread was my first post. I was unaware that there was a "Web Development" section upon creating this thread. I do have skills that lie outside the realm of web development, so I suppose that could make up it.
I agree with most of the points you make, but I think that there are experienced web developers who are willing to work for 20USD or less. Especially on a forum such as MCM, where most of the clients have a low budget, a lot of developers have taken to cutting prices in order to attract clients. Considering that quite a bit of the work requests are for portals to Enjin/Xenforo sites, 20USD is a somewhat fair price for someone on a budget. Of course, this does allow inexperienced developers to sell templates, but that's just a risk that buyers need to be aware of. At the same time though, that does ruin it for larger more expensive projects such as a custom forum site/theme, as clients expect ridiculously low prices for outstanding work.
Right, right. I see what you're saying. $20 could be a fair price depending on what exactly the site entails, I am sure that below $20 is probably not worth it. (Also, consider, some people sell sites for less than $5! That is crazy!)
You nagged at all other web developers for selling themselves cheap, and here you are literally giving away your services.
The issue is not of developers underselling themselves, it's the fact that developers in this community understand the issue with budgets.
Many people who come into MCM as well as other such communities, don't have extravagant and vast budgets allotted for a website; as such developers within this community have had to lower their prices massively, in order to even get a client among these people.
Just because our prices may be low, does not mean we lack any form of quality over those who charge higher prices. Look around, all developers charge differently, it's just a matter of how different the prices are, and how the pricing effects the quality. As long as people take pride in what they do, and provide the quality they promise, I see absolutely no issue with how they price things.
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This is a website that I had created as a voucher (I offered these in my OP, please refer to that). The person ended up wanting a template, I do not create templates.
Low prices do, for the most part, mean a lack of quality. A quality developer will not work for free (unless it is a case like a voucher), they shouldn't work for free.
If you don't have the budget to pay for a quality website, learn to do it on your own.
The 3 most repped web developers on this website sell free templates for $10-20 a pop -- that's sad.
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You may remain under whatever assumption you believe, however I've said my part and put forth my opinion. I leave this conversation now.
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