ReliableSite or OVH?
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Yes when a service is sold like that it gantuneeing to the customer the attacks of that size/PPS that will be mitigated. If it doesn't comply to the contracted mitigation then you have the right to complain to the company of the said attacks not being taken cared of.
That how it is in the "real" business world (not this Minecraft "world" where everyone expects the "sun and the moon" for $3/GB).
What did I just read, one second I need to re-read it.......
Oh yeah I get it, you still need clarification........
That does NOT mean that the mitigation is totally dedicated to you, it means they have enough excess bandwidth in the shared environment to stop attacks on your server of 10Gbps. I don't need you to explain how the "real" business world works because you CLEARLY don't understand bandwidth costs and how idiotic your argument is. I have been in this business for a while now and have worked with many providers to know that you are wrong. You think every customer they have has a 10Gbps attack going on every second, no. They average it out to see on average how many attacks are on the network and ensure they have extra bandwidth to allot for more attacks any given day.
Even "normal" bandwidth works like that. You lease 10TB, I doubt any provider actually have 10TB times however many units online.
As long as the network is able to be extended proactivity and I am getting what I paid for then it cool.
Yes so you see its not dedicated, they just make sure to have enough allocated resources to supply the needs of their customers.
I see so how about this?
OVH doesn't provides their customers a promised protection level, while Reliable Site does.
Thus if you get hit at 10Gbps over at OVH then they aren't required by the contract to mitigate it. Whereas every Reliable Site server does come with this promise.
I can't speak for OVH however I know they claim to have "unlimited protection" which we all know is a marketing gimmick. If you get hit off with OVH they don't do much to help. That being said I know ReliableSite does try to help their customers if they do have issues with mitigation. However, you should know that no protection system is perfect and even ReliableSite cannot stop all attacks, like any provider they to their best to mitigate most common attacks.
There's a lot of confusion here... I think some people misunderstand the definition of bandwidth, and therefore fail to understand Ian.D point. It is definite that neither ReliableSite nor OVH offer 'dedicated' DoS protection, that's evident by the price points. He already explained how bandwidth is expensive which is part of mitigation (traffic filtering) but the second problem is the actual hardware needed to mitigate attacks... It's expensive. That's why companies have a mitigation service that detects attacks and then filters traffic through it, or offers inline protection to always filter via it (wouldn't recommend that either, tbh).
If you want to see real life prices and the price of real DDoS mitigation, take a look at CNServers: https://billing.cnservers.com/cart.php?gid=3
Back onto topic, it's network capacity and think of it like this, what happens when many servers from many clients are being attacked? You go over that network capacity - lights out.
This isn't about false advertisement (or well, OVH does do that, but anyway...). It's just explaining the different between dedicated and 'shared' protection. Either way doesn't necessarily mean a failure to mitigate that attack. I mean you can complain, but what are you going to do? OVH know they have people by their neck when it comes to Minecraft, because people have extremely low budgets and can't afford to go elsewhere. They want that service at a cheap price, in comes OVH. I mean, you can say RS etc. is competition, but not really. OVH is much, much larger. People can't leave so they just have to put up with whatever they do anyway.
If you want to see real life prices and the price of real DDoS mitigation, take a look at CNServers: https://billing.cnservers.com/cart.php?gid=3
Back onto topic, it's network capacity and think of it like this, what happens when many servers from many clients are being attacked? You go over that network capacity - lights out.
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He most likely meant guaranteed versus shared....
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