Remove minecraft association

[SMKM]

I think part of the reason Mojang employees who stalk the MC account sections are so confident in locking certain accounts for being sold on there is because the MC association system gives them conclusive proof that a user claiming to be selling an account is 100% attempting to sell that account.

If MC association were removed, then they know that someone claiming to be selling a certain name might not actually own it, and that account might not actually be being sold at all. Or, are they just going to lock every big name posted on here, and you can get the account locked of anyone who you don't like? I highly doubt it.

A con to this is that removing MC association would probably result in slightly more users being scammed, although I personally don't think that completely warrants keeping MC association. I'm not totally sure how great of an idea this is, so feel free to critique it.

 

[El_Tristanio]

I think part of the reason Mojang employees who stalk the MC account sections are so confident in locking certain accounts for being sold on there is because the MC association system gives them conclusive proof that a user claiming to be selling an account is 100% attempting to sell that account.

If MC association were removed, then they know that someone claiming to be selling a certain name might not actually own it, and that account might not actually be being sold at all. Or, are they just going to lock every big name posted on here, and you can get the account locked of anyone who you don't like? I highly doubt it.

A con to this is that removing MC association would probably result in slightly more users being scammed, although I personally don't think that completely warrants keeping MC association. I'm not totally sure how great of an idea this is, so feel free to critique it.

I highly agree with this. This would assist greatly, Are the MCM staff members aware of mojang employees accounts?

 

[Zyger]

It should be fine if middlemen are used more.

I highly agree with this. This would assist greatly, Are the MCM staff members aware of mojang employees accounts?

They probably wouldn't have any way of telling, MarcIRL had an account on here secretly for a while

 

[eggsedan]

I think part of the reason Mojang employees who stalk the MC account sections are so confident in locking certain accounts for being sold on there is because the MC association system gives them conclusive proof that a user claiming to be selling an account is 100% attempting to sell that account.

If MC association were removed, then they know that someone claiming to be selling a certain name might not actually own it, and that account might not actually be being sold at all. Or, are they just going to lock every big name posted on here, and you can get the account locked of anyone who you don't like? I highly doubt it.

A con to this is that removing MC association would probably result in slightly more users being scammed, although I personally don't think that completely warrants keeping MC association. I'm not totally sure how great of an idea this is, so feel free to critique it.

I agree in a way, I think there should be a link to your minecraft account but it should not be public you should choose to show it in a dm

 

[Ally]

Or how about only allowing the association system to be seen when the accounts are sold by a user (in the parent post of a thread) rather than screwing the entire system over. This will limit the viewing of accounts and also keep the purpose of the Private OGs section as well as the normal Minecraft accounts section. I.e. if you want to sell an account with the guarantee that it won't be locked, you sell it in the Private section.

 

[SMKM]

Or how about only allowing the association system to be seen when the accounts are sold by a user (in the parent post of a thread) rather than screwing the entire system over. This will limit the viewing of accounts and also keep the purpose of the Private OGs section as well as the normal Minecraft accounts section. I.e. if you want to sell an account with the guarantee that it won't be locked, you sell it in the Private section.

I'm not really sure what you meant in the first part about the associated accounts only being visible "when the accounts are sold by a user (in the parent post of a thread)". But regardless, if you can only post a thread for names that are "invisibly" associated to your profile then it defeats the purpose. :/ Mojang employees aren't completely retarded. They would know that in that case, for an OG thread to even be posted it requires associating, which is very good evidence that the user owns the account and is actually attempting to sell it.

 

[Ally]

I'm not really sure what you meant in the first part about the associated accounts only being visible "when the accounts are sold by a user (in the parent post of a thread)". But regardless, if you can only post a thread for names that are "invisibly" associated to your profile then it defeats the purpose. :/ Mojang employees aren't completely retarded. They would know that in that case, for an OG thread to even be posted it requires associating, which is very good evidence that the user owns the account and is actually attempting to sell it.

Would like to add another point. Regardless of whether we have the association system or not, we would have to have proof for every thread; minecraft association is the most secure way to do it, however.

 

[Chearful]

it's so boring & a hassle to link 100 accounts (i stopped at like 30 or so), even when using a tool to login and change the skin of the account for you. I mean what's the point in it? It doesn't really enforce selling accounts with security questions on since you can change the skin even if you don't know the security questions. Even if you do link the account rn, the staff are so picky and will nitpick until they find a thread where the person has deleted the association but left the thread up in spite of the fact posting a thread requires the account to be linked in the first place.

tldr just remove mc association pls and ty.

 

[Ivain]

If minecraft association is removed, say goodbye to your ability to sell accounts on this forum. Only reason accounts are allowed to be sold again is because of the association and similar anti-scamming tactics.
Unless you can guarantee a system that works as well if not better, it will not be removed, and hang the consequences.

 

[SMKM]

If minecraft association is removed, say goodbye to your ability to sell accounts on this forum. Only reason accounts are allowed to be sold again is because of the association and similar anti-scamming tactics.
Unless you can guarantee a system that works as well if not better, it will not be removed, and hang the consequences.

I think the investment/loan forum was & is far more riddled with scams than the MC account section was before they added MC association. So, if that is allowed to stay, but the account sections would need to be removed if MC association was removed it, there seems to be a bit of inconsistency with that. People need to get smarter when dealing on here, not much else I can say. :/

 

[Ally]

I think the investment/loan forum was & is far more riddled with scams than the MC account section was before they added MC association. So, if that is allowed to stay, but the account sections would need to be removed if MC association was removed it, there seems to be a bit of inconsistency with that. People need to get smarter when dealing on here, not much else I can say. :/

Putting the responsibilities and things on people is not how you should do things. And if you programmed, you should know that if something could go wrong in your program with a client, it will go wrong... regardless of whatever you do. As far as "smart" goes, well people would need to be more aware of the market and account ownership, because there are some pretty smart scammers... it's far too impractical. It goes without saying, however, that there is a degree of awareness that people are required to have regardless.

 

[SMKM]

Putting the responsibilities and things on people is not how you should do things. And if you programmed, you should know that if something could go wrong in your program with a client, it will go wrong... regardless of whatever you do. As far as "smart" goes, well people would need to be more aware of the market and account ownership, because there are some pretty smart scammers... it's far too impractical. It goes without saying, however, that there is a degree of awareness that people are required to have regardless.

Not really sure how this is relevant: "As far as "smart" goes, well people would need to be more aware of the market and account ownership, because there are some pretty smart scammers...", because this is about removing MC association, and the alternative is to ask someone in PM for proof of ownership if you're an interested buyer. You don't have to be a genius to do that either.

 

[Ivain]

I think the investment/loan forum was & is far more riddled with scams than the MC account section was before they added MC association. So, if that is allowed to stay, but the account sections would need to be removed if MC association was removed it, there seems to be a bit of inconsistency with that. People need to get smarter when dealing on here, not much else I can say. :/

The thing with accounts is that the only way to prevent yourself from being scammed in the long run is to not buy any accounts.
With loans, after a certain period of time, you can stop worrying about chargebacks. With accounts, especially ones that have more than 1 prev owner, it's ALWAYS a worry that it'll be contested. All previous owners had access to the TID, so they could all theoretically take it back. sure, you might be skillful enough to prevent it most of the time, but there are no surefire ways to avoid it, unlike with most other products.

 

[SMKM]

The thing with accounts is that the only way to prevent yourself from being scammed in the long run is to not buy any accounts.
With loans, after a certain period of time, you can stop worrying about chargebacks. With accounts, especially ones that have more than 1 prev owner, it's ALWAYS a worry that it'll be contested. All previous owners had access to the TID, so they could all theoretically take it back. sure, you might be skillful enough to prevent it most of the time, but there are no surefire ways to avoid it, unlike with most other products.

People will worry just as much about an account being pulled back regardless if MC association exists or not. MC association doesn't effect the security of the account, it only helps people to not pay money for accounts that a seller doesn't actually own. And a simple solution is to ask for proof in PM, if you're an interested buyer.

I think association should be available to be PRIVATE.
For example staff can see it linked but other people can’t unless you want them to.
This would 1. Help people wanting to flex but not necessarily selling their accounts
2. Keep pesky mojang employees from giving the big lock to accs

This would only work if you can still post a thread of a name even if it isn't associated to your profile. If you can't, then that defeats the entire purpose, since , if they're somehow not already aware of it, Mojang employees can easily figure out that you can only post a thread of an account that's associated to your profile, which gives them 100% confidence you're trying to sell an account that you own.

 

[jxhdvn]

I highly agree with this. This would assist greatly, Are the MCM staff members aware of mojang employees accounts?

Doge said there was about 15 of them

 

[ZACK]

I only disagree to this duo to the fact newer members are way more likely to be scammed

 

[jxhdvn]

I only disagree to this duo to the fact newer members are way more likely to be scammed

or newer members are more likely to scam