Remove or change 'Cannot back out from deal' rule

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The rule is honestly useless, a seller should not get hopes up when someone says they will buy it, they might not want it in the end, or might find a better thing... The rule is restricting you...

Example: You put candy in your shopping cart, when you are about to checkout, you decide you don't want it and want to go on a diet, and you out it back, and the cashier says 'sorry sir/ma'am you have to buy this, our policy states once you have something in your shopping cart, you have to buy it.'


Basically: Buyers can you only back out of a deal if the seller is selling something pre-made, if a buyer request the seller for a specific item, like a custom build,plugin,artwork then the buyer cannot back out.
 
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Interesting idea...
 

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I think remove it, except you cannot back out of a deal if the person has made the product already ect.
That counts for CUSTOM things only, not premade things.
 

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This would be good, because I received 20 warning points or backing out of a bid I made on a premade server before, and the reason was for something that came up in IRL (I had a bill to pay, that I forgot to pay so was a month behind).
 

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Like a custom server setup, made to your liking? So if I have ordered custom essentials messages, and the guy made them, but then I want to back out. What happens about that? Do you mean like custom plugins ect?
If I request you to make something custom for me, you can't back it of that, but you should be able to back out of a premade server deal.
 

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This would be good, because I received 20 warning points or backing out of a bid I made on a premade server before, and the reason was for something that came up in IRL (I had a bill to pay, that I forgot to pay so was a month behind).
M6Gaming this could happen to treason.
 

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lets see what Ajdin Has to say. Prob a no with a 23 paragraph long answer
 

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What do you mean by this? If someone says I might buy X and they can't or no longer want it, then I understand as there's no commitment made, just potential interest. But if a commitment is made such as when buying artwork, custom plugins and builds etc and after it's finished the buyer backs out, then they should be warned of course. Same with a bid. When you bid, you're saying that you have the money available and will pay it if you win. If you don't have the money or are unsure if you want the item, then don't bid.
 

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But if a commitment is made such as when buying artwork, custom plugins and builds etc and after it's finished the buyer backs out, then they should be warned of course.
Sellers can avoid such risks by requiring half payment before starting work, which this is the reason why a lot of people do.
 

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What do you mean by this? If someone says I might buy X and they can't or no longer want it, then I understand as there's no commitment made, just potential interest. But if a commitment is made such as when buying artwork, custom plugins and builds etc and after it's finished the buyer backs out, then they should be warned of course. Same with a bid. When you bid, you're saying that you have the money available and will pay it if you win. If you don't have the money or are unsure if you want the item, then don't bid.
Exactly, you even said it yourself...
'If someone says I might buy X and they can't or no longer want it, then I understand as there's no commitment made, just potential interest. ' I'm saying remove the rule or just change it to say that you cannot backout of a deal if you ordered a custom item. (Builds,plugins,artwork etc..)
 

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Assuming these are the rules in question:
5.3 Do not offer to buy an item or service if you intend not to pay for said item or service.
5.4 Do not offer to sell an item or service if you intend not to provide said item or service.
They're not really intended for "backing out of a deal". Depending on the seller's ToS and the deal that was made, backing out could be fine or could be a scam. That's determined when the deal is analyzed once a scam report is created.

Rule 5.3 was originally intended for people bidding on auction-style threads, waiting a week for the auction to end, then deciding it wasn't worth it and never buying the item.
Rule 5.4 is more to just prevent scamming. Such as someone attempting to sell a giftcard or item that they don't actually own. It was most useful when people who sell accounts, but other people had proof the seller did not own the account.

Concerning "backing out" on service deals, as people have stated you can avoid issues by having a ToS and/or requiring full or half payment before starting the project.
If you find a client to be difficult, there shouldn't be much of an issue to cancel the deal and do a full refund (but if you've wasted your clients time, they'll probably devouch you).
 

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If you get hired and they back out for no good reason, it's an asshole thing to do, but without having a ToS of your own, it cannot be helped. You can always devouch them ofc.[DOUBLEPOST=1466779859][/DOUBLEPOST]Also, about the candy analogy...
that's a supermarket. Not an auction house.

A better analogy would be ordering a pizza and deciding you don't want it when it's delivered.
 
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