Resource approval discussion

[cronu]

Should resources be instant approved for Premium and Supreme Members?

Hello everyone,

I've recently decided to introduce some of my work that I've been working on for quite a while, when doing so I discovered that in order to release a resource to the public it must first be reviewed and approved.

Don't get me wrong, I understand that this is a process that must be taken seriously to ensure that people aren't selling sketchy resources, however for people who have actually purchased premium or supreme they should at least be able to bypass these checks.

I'm not sure how long it actually takes in order for your resource to be approved but it's been over a day for me currently, I can see where this could be possibly frustrating for those who own businesses and are trying to sell their resources.

I know what you may say, "It's necessary to stop potential things from happening, it's only a few days to get approved", however I believe resources should be instant approved by members who have purchased a rank within MC-Market as this should count as some sort of trust/loyalty to the site. Of course, if something were to go wrong or something was sketch about a resource, there would be moderators on standby who could easily navigate to the resource and remove it.

I feel it would save a lot of time for both moderators and members of this site.

I'd love to hear some discussion on the matter for those who agree or disagree, I'd also like to say that I'm not here to start an argument, just trying to get other peoples views and opinions on the matter.​

Current Constructive Criticism


As of now we currently are on the same page in regards to potentially making some sort of implementation of a process where members of this community who have some sort of presence / reputation will be able to potentially bypass or be processed much faster through the approval system

Other potential solutions may include an application system in which members of the community will go through a reviewing process where moderators will decide whether or not the person is eligible for faster processing when uploading their resources to the site.​

 

[MrAniman2]

Unfortunately people with bad intentions would happily purchase ranks to get their potentially harmful resources on resource section...

 

[Anish]

So for $10 I bypass an approval process? uhmm... no.

 

[InternetThing]

Should resources be instant approved for Premium and Supreme Members?

Hello everyone,

I've recently decided to introduce some of my work that I've been working on for quite a while, when doing so I discovered that in order to release a resource to the public it must first be reviewed and approved.

Don't get me wrong, I understand that this is a process that must be taken seriously to ensure that people aren't selling sketchy resources, however for people who have actually purchased premium or supreme they should at least be able to bypass these checks.

I'm not sure how long it actually takes in order for your resource to be approved but it's been over a day for me currently, I can see where this could be possibly frustrating for those who own businesses and are trying to sell their resources.

I know what you may say, "It's necessary to stop potential things from happening, it's only a few days to get approved", however I believe resources should be instant approved by members who have purchased a rank within MC-Market as this should count as some sort of trust/loyalty to the site. Of course, if something were to go wrong or something was sketch about a resource, there would be moderators on standby who could easily navigate to the resource and remove it.

I feel it would save a lot of time for both moderators and members of this site.
I'd love to hear some discussion on the matter for those who agree or disagree, I'd also like to say that I'm not here to start an argument, just trying to get other peoples views and opinions on the matter.

people might abuse them as MrAniman2 said.
also instant approve for premium is just not a good idea, maybe for any chance for supreme but thats also not a completely good idea either

 

[Mr.EmPee]

Mh... I think that instead of this may it is better to allow the bypass to people with an active profile and a high reputation

 

[solo]

Mh... I think that instead of this may it is better to allow the bypass to people with an active profile and a high reputation

I agree with Em.

People can re-post setups and without approval others will purchase and can
lose their money due to the piracy and leaks. (just a scenario)

However there should be something with reputation and positive reaction points.

 

[syrusxd]

Pay $10 to scam $100.

 

[Yohhan]

Should resources be instant approved for Premium and Supreme Members?

Hello everyone,

I've recently decided to introduce some of my work that I've been working on for quite a while, when doing so I discovered that in order to release a resource to the public it must first be reviewed and approved.

Don't get me wrong, I understand that this is a process that must be taken seriously to ensure that people aren't selling sketchy resources, however for people who have actually purchased premium or supreme they should at least be able to bypass these checks.

I'm not sure how long it actually takes in order for your resource to be approved but it's been over a day for me currently, I can see where this could be possibly frustrating for those who own businesses and are trying to sell their resources.

I know what you may say, "It's necessary to stop potential things from happening, it's only a few days to get approved", however I believe resources should be instant approved by members who have purchased a rank within MC-Market as this should count as some sort of trust/loyalty to the site. Of course, if something were to go wrong or something was sketch about a resource, there would be moderators on standby who could easily navigate to the resource and remove it.

I feel it would save a lot of time for both moderators and members of this site.
I'd love to hear some discussion on the matter for those who agree or disagree, I'd also like to say that I'm not here to start an argument, just trying to get other peoples views and opinions on the matter.

tf?

 

[Cade]

no just no

 

[Zodiac]

Unfortunately people with bad intentions would happily purchase ranks to get their potentially harmful resources on resource section...

Unfortunately ppl can put harmful stuff in resource updates and its not checked :/

 

[cronu]

Unfortunately people with bad intentions would happily purchase ranks to get their potentially harmful resources on resource section...

So for $10 I bypass an approval process? uhmm... no.

people might abuse them as MrAniman2 said.
also instant approve for premium is just not a good idea, maybe for any chance for supreme but thats also not a completely good idea either

Mh... I think that instead of this may it is better to allow the bypass to people with an active profile and a high reputation

I agree with Em.

People can re-post setups and without approval others will purchase and can
lose their money due to the piracy and leaks. (just a scenario)

However there should be something with reputation and positive reaction points.

Pay $10 to scam $100.

tf?

no just no

Unfortunately ppl can put harmful stuff in resource updates and its not checked :/

Thank you all for the discussion activity.

I completely understand where you are all coming from and I agree with basically everything that is being said, I also understand that there needs to be some sort of process in place in order to safeguard the members of this community.

However, I'd like to see some potential implementations that could be made within this site in order to make the process easier for those who're more dedicated to the site and like some of you said have some sort of presence / reputation.

 

[syrusxd]

Thank you all for the discussion activity.

I completely understand where you are all coming from and I agree with basically everything that is being said, I also understand that there needs to be some sort of process in place in order to safeguard the members of this community.

However, I'd like to see some potential implementations that could be made within this site in order to make the process easier for those who're more dedicated to the site and like some of you said have some sort of presence / reputation.

Reputation/# of resources approved would reflect that better than how much money you've paid to the website.

 

[Harry]

It's commonly known that resource updates go through no sort of approval process, so we're of course not blind to the fact that members can easily upload rule-violating content within them - this is when we heavily-rely on reports from the community to ensure these violations don't go unpunished.

However, being able to catch these violations when they occur before the resource even goes live will always be an added benefit to the community, and not one we'd want to compromise on because you have X amount of posts or reputation.

We also look at whether the resource meets our quality expectations, publicly lists any dependency download links, provides an adequate description, is in the correct category, and whether the product is as-described, to name but a few. We'd see a large spike in low-quality & rule-violating resources if the approval process was bypassed for even just a small subset of our users, and we'd have to fall back on community reports which serves no better of a system.

 

[cronu]

It's commonly known that resource updates go through no sort of approval process, so we're of course not blind to the fact that members can easily upload rule-violating content within them - this is when we heavily-rely on reports from the community to ensure these violations don't go unpunished.

However, being able to catch these violations when they occur before the resource even goes live will always be an added benefit to the community, and not one we'd want to compromise on because you have X amount of posts or reputation.

We also look at whether the resource meets our quality expectations, publicly lists any dependency download links, provides an adequate description, is in the correct category, and whether the product is as-described, to name but a few. We'd see a large spike in low-quality & rule-violating resources if the approval process was bypassed for even just a small subset of our users, and we'd have to fall back on community reports which serves no better of a system.

Again, another greatly articulated and informative response to mine and the communities proposed suggestions.
I completely understand that the current system is much easier on yourself and many others within the MC-Market team.

However, I feel like resource producers should be given an ETA on how long it'll take to process their resource, again I know this is a burden on the team and could be giving out false hope due to the possible high demand in the upload of resources, however, I feel it would increase the work flow and remove the burden of people complaining about their resource not being approved within X amount of time.

Also, I do understand that we can't expect to have our resource approved almost instantly as it involves a lengthy process of going through every uploaded resource and checking for anything malicious. I believe there could be some brainstorming within the MC-Market team to potentially implement something in order to streamline this process and ease the workload on the team as well as satisfy resource producers.

I'm not complaining, but just trying to come up with some sort of plausible solution to a problem. I'd like to use myself as an example, I've been waiting 2 days to have a thread template uploaded, again not complaining just using a real life example as to why I've made this thread.

 

[Harry]

However, I feel like resource producers should be given an ETA on how long it'll take to process their resource, again I know this is a burden on the team and could be giving out false hope due to the possible high demand in the upload of resources, however, I feel it would increase the work flow and remove the burden of people complaining about their resource not being approved within X amount of time.

Our average approval times are between 24-48 hours, and that is indeed what we aim for. This can vary due to demand as you've mentioned or depending on our time availability; sometimes it can be within 24 hours, sometimes we can slip behind a day or two at most. If any resource is taking abnormally longer than this, and you haven't been contacted by a staff member about it, it would always be best to create a support ticket.

Also, I do understand that we can't expect to have our resource approved almost instantly as it involves a lengthy process of going through every uploaded resource and checking for anything malicious. I believe there could be some brainstorming within the MC-Market team to potentially implement something in order to streamline this process and ease the workload on the team as well as satisfy resource producers.

Introducing a way to bypass/prioritise or remove the approval process isn't something I'd ever want as you could've guessed from my earlier response, and I'm sure it isn't something administration would agree with either considering Justis was previously a resource moderator for many years and came across the same violations which formed my opinion.

Streamlining the approval process is something we're always looking into. Justis has previously developed a few tools for us to streamline the approval of setups, and I'm wanting to develop a beefed-up version myself, as well as create tools using libraries such as javassist to statically trace back every single method call made by a plugin.

I'm not complaining, but just trying to come up with some sort of plausible solution to a problem. I'd like to use myself as an example, I've been waiting 2 days to have a thread template uploaded, again not complaining just using a real life example as to why I've made this thread.

I fully understand, and I appreciate the way you've gone about this thread - often, we just have people open tickets complaining after less than 24 hours of their resource being within our queue, which can be frustrating.

With your resource specifically, it hasn't actually been within our queue for 48 hours, but around 7 hours less than at the time of this message. My aim by the end of any specific day is to complete all resources submitted 2 days earlier, so today I'll complete all the ones submitted on the 15th, including yours. It'll all depend though on when I'm able to handle resources on that specific day, and the timezone of the author.

 

[cronu]

Streamlining the approval process is something we're always looking into. Justis has previously developed a few tools for us to streamline the approval of setups, and I'm wanting to develop a beefed-up version myself, as well as create tools using libraries such as javassist to statically trace back every single method call made by a plugin.

I applaud your continued support with this thread by providing relevant information while also taking into consideration the point of view from a resource producer.

It's good to hear that the MC-Market team is continuously looking for new and improved ways to help streamline the process and help the work flow for their team. Not sure if you would be open to the idea, however management could possibly produce a thread where it gives the community the opportunity to give feedback on current and future systems within the site, this could help functionality and possibly decrease the work load that you guys experience on a day to day basis if you were to find a plausible implementation to any obvious problems.

Community feedback is necessary for growth in my opinion, having people who're active users of the site who have first hand experience of such problems would be able to give constructive criticism and hopefully provide possible solutions.

I was thinking that you guys could possibly add the standardised time-range in which it takes for resources to be approved in this section.

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Introducing a way to bypass/prioritise or remove the approval process isn't something I'd ever want as you could've guessed from my earlier response, and I'm sure it isn't something administration would agree with either considering Justis was previously a resource moderator for many years and came across the same violations which formed my opinion.

I totally agree, I wasn't putting much thought into what I was suggesting when I created this thread, it was basically used as a baseline for a discussion to help come up with some ideas that could possibly help the process.

With your resource specifically, it hasn't actually been within our queue for 48 hours, but around 7 hours less than at the time of this message. My aim by the end of any specific day is to complete all resources submitted 2 days earlier, so today I'll complete all the ones submitted on the 15th, including yours. It'll all depend though on when I'm able to handle resources on that specific day, and the timezone of the author.

Again, completely understandable, I appreciate that you're taking time out of your day to handle a very large workload. I'm in no rush to have my resources approved but from a standpoint of a resource producer, or even a member of the MC-Market team, I can see how there could be some flaws with this system. Keep up the good work man, thank you for giving your input on the matter.

 

[Ronix Studios]

I agree. Yes, your workload is heavy. You are responsible for a lot of resources. But 7 days is not a long time? Yes, I'm still waiting, but I can't find an answer to my questions. You contacted via private message but I did not get a response to my feedback. I shared it on the ten of the month, but still it is not confirmed. If u get back to our messages, we don't know why it is not approved, if there is a rule violation, we will fix this problem or we will know if we are in the waiting period. Apart from that, we are satisfied with everything. We want to get feedback, not just to speed up the process.

 

[IRules]

They could add an Instant resource approval rank for well-known members or companies, but not for purchasable ranks.

 

[Mr.EmPee]

They could add an Instant resource approval rank for well-known members or companies, but not for purchasable ranks.

If someone stole the account?

 

[Anish]

Based on MCM rules the account owner is liable if the account is hacked. With that logic, nobody should be able to ban people cause Mick's account was compromised.