Resource Bumping

[Landon]

its ya boy w/ another flaming suggestion.

So, when you post a resource, it goes to the top. Then, resources slowly cover yours, leaving yours at the bottom. The only way to bump it is by posting a new Resource Update.

But, the problem is- Some resources are things like configs, where updates won't be made every day. This means your resource gets a minimal viewing on the resource page.

I think it'd be an awesome addon to implement Resource Bumping (24H?). Essentially like Up thread, but for the Resources Page.

Points--
@Everyone
"Oh, this ruins featured resources."
Not really. You can say the same thing about sticky threads and upping threads. So, I don't think it really ruins the point of Featured Resources, as your resource will still be at the very very top for everyone to see.

@Everyone
"Post an update. Simple"
Not all resources need to be updated. Example: A thread design. Might be updated once. After that, it's lost in the pages of resources. The point of resources is to sell, not get a few sales and then quit after that.

Ivain
"If you have several resources, simply post a selling thread and bump that".
Yes, that can work, but typically for users looking for resources, they head to the resources page to find what they need. It'd make it much more efficient, rather than finding all of your individual threads and upping them.

thx

 

[Ivain]

If you have several resources, simply post a selling thread and bump that.

 

[Landon]

If you have several resources, simply post a selling thread and bump that.

Does that bump on the resource page though ?

 

[Ivain]

Does that bump on the resource page though ?

no but it does get you the views you need. Often more than un-linked resources.

 

[Landon]

no but it does get you the views you need. Often more than un-linked resources.

Ah. I'd still prefer a way to bump the actual resources page, as 90% of the time I go there to find resources, rather then checking Resource threads.

Thanks for the feedback though.

 

[Ivain]

interesting, that. But how would that work with the sorting? I think if it IS bumped, it should work for a different category entirely. not recently updated or anything. thats the main minus point, resources are shown by a specific order, and bumping would mess with those. if I look for recently update resources, im not looking for bumped ones at all.

 

[Landon]

interesting, that. But how would that work with the sorting? I think if it IS bumped, it should work for a different category entirely. not recently updated or anything. thats the main minus point, resources are shown by a specific order, and bumping would mess with those. if I look for recently update resources, im not looking for bumped ones at all.

Just like with threads, whichever was last bumped is shown, or the newest resource(s). Could implement a system for a 'Recently Updated' category only showing the updated resources, and not bumped ones, but that might be more work.

 

[Ivain]

Just like with threads, whichever was last bumped is shown, or the newest resource(s). Could implement a system for a 'Recently Updated' category only showing the updated resources, and not bumped ones, but that might be more work.

Thats just what I mean though, it NEEDS to be new resources separate from bumped ones. with threads I can sort them by start date, but they appear by recently updated. However, since them actually being recently updated is not that important, it's not a problem that bumps interfere with that system.
With resources, however, being 'recently updated' is a big deal by comparison. so bumps interfering in that would be a problem

 

[Jerry]

eBay has a search system that goes by price, time left, newest listings etc. Something like that might be useful for everyone's needs.

 

[3l0Ofd8QrqJ]

Definitely agree, people rarely go to the resource threads forum to look for resources so bumping there is kinda insignificant. I'd suggest a 1-2 week option to bump (maybe differing for regular/premium/supreme).

 

[Landon]

bumping this suggestion

 

[Ally]

bumping this suggestion

The irony in your post is real.

 

[Landon]

The irony in your post is real.

BECAUSE SUGGESTIONS CANt Be UPPED

 

[n0tzach]

I do see some problems coming from this.

• People are gonna fight for that bump and in most cases I actually see it moving your resource back more and not actually up front. The reason for this is because the main resource page has everything and thats the one most people view.
• This will discourage updates, As updates are what buyers want (and sometimes needs) and if you can just bump it why update?
• The point of the Sticked Resource is to keep your resource bumped, This would kinda kill that reason.

I don't know. I just feel like it will be come spammy and overused and you will see old crappy resources being bumped 24/7 over the nicer and better ones.

 

[Landon]

I do see some problems coming from this.

• People are gonna fight for that bump and in most cases I actually see it moving your resource back more and not actually up front. The reason for this is because the main resource page has everything and thats the one most people view.
• This will discourage updates, As updates are what buyers want (and sometimes needs) and if you can just bump it why update?
• The point of the Sticked Resource is to keep your resource bumped, This would kinda kill that reason.

I don't know. I just feel like it will be come spammy and overused and you will see old crappy resources being bumped 24/7 over the nicer and better ones.

"This will discourage updates, As updates are what buyers want (and sometimes needs) and if you can just bump it why update?"
Updates are for actual updates. If the seller needs to update, they can. But take this for example: A portal page. Has minimal bugs, and probably won't be updated. After a week, it's forgotten in the pages of resources.

 

[n0tzach]

"This will discourage updates, As updates are what buyers want (and sometimes needs) and if you can just bump it why update?"
Updates are for actual updates. If the seller needs to update, they can. But take this for example: A portal page. Has minimal bugs, and probably won't be updated. After a week, it's forgotten in the pages of resources.

That's fair. But my point stands of crappy resources being bumped every five minutes

 

[Zeiyon]

This suggestion has already been accepted and is pending.
http://www.mc-market.org/threads/91197/

Now, here is what I believe:
A year ago, I would have agreed with this, but that's because back then, a single resource would stay on the main page for days.
And this would promote the viewing of more resources, not the same ones as yesterday.
But now, this is not the case anymore. If I update my resources today, most likely by tomorrow, if not in a few hours, my resource will be on the second page. That's faster than most forums on here. Now, if we add a bumping feature, this would make things go way too fast. At a point where there would be no point in updating, and updating is something we want to promote as much as possible.

 

[cilent]

NO

 

[Landon]

This suggestion has already been accepted and is pending.
http://www.mc-market.org/threads/91197/

Now, here is what I believe:
A year ago, I would have agreed with this, but that's because back then, a single resource would stay on the main page for days.
And this would promote the viewing of more resources, not the same ones as yesterday.
But now, this is not the case anymore. If I update my resources today, most likely by tomorrow, if not in a few hours, my resource will be on the second page. That's faster than most forums on here. Now, if we add a bumping feature, this would make things go way too fast. At a point where there would be no point in updating, and updating is something we want to promote as much as possible.

Going to Vexy's arguement.
"This will discourage updates, As updates are what buyers want (and sometimes needs) and if you can just bump it why update?"
Updates are for actual updates. If the seller needs to update, they can. But take this for example: A portal page. Has minimal bugs, and probably won't be updated. After a week, it's forgotten in the pages of resources.

The point of this is to be able to sell your resource, without updating it just so people will see it. This won't remove the point in updating resources. If a Faction setup forgot to include PermissionsEx, of course they'll need to update it, and not just bump it. This is for the resources that won't ever be updated again, and will be lost in the pages of resources after two days.

What's the point of posting a resource, that will get 1-2 purchases, and then be forgotten? It's useless. Resources are meant to be sold, and having them hidden in the pages of other resources, is not the meaning of selling resources.

Threads can be upped, resources should be allowed.
There's no difference between threads and resources being upped. Their just two different pages.

Also, that suggestion has been pending since 2016. Never saw it originally, but I'll keep this post so Mick can be reminded of it.

 

[Zeiyon]

Going to Vexy's arguement.
"This will discourage updates, As updates are what buyers want (and sometimes needs) and if you can just bump it why update?"
Updates are for actual updates. If the seller needs to update, they can. But take this for example: A portal page. Has minimal bugs, and probably won't be updated. After a week, it's forgotten in the pages of resources.

The point of this is to be able to sell your resource, without updating it just so people will see it. This won't remove the point in updating resources. If a Faction setup forgot to include PermissionsEx, of course they'll need to update it, and not just bump it. This is for the resources that won't ever be updated again, and will be lost in the pages of resources after two days.

What's the point of posting a resource, that will get 1-2 purchases, and then be forgotten? It's useless. Resources are meant to be sold, and having them hidden in the pages of other resources, is not the meaning of selling resources.

Threads can be upped, resources should be allowed.
There's no difference between threads and resources being upped. Their just two different pages.

Also, that suggestion has been pending since 2016. Never saw it originally, but I'll keep this post so Mick can be reminded of it.

If you made a perfect resource, and you believe that it will sell really well, then you should buy a features resource.
Other than that, I don't think you need to change the flow of the whole resources section just so the 'perfect resources' can be seen,
And I don't believe there's such a thing as a 'perfect' resource. Everything can be improved.