Scammer database

[Fire]

Okay, basic idea of this is to have a webpage, e.g. mc-market.org/scammers that users can access to enter any of the following details.

Skype names,
MCM names (including ones banned for ban evading),
Email,
PayPal email,
BitCoin address,
Other known names, steam, youtube etc.

And if the entered field matches anything in the database it would bring up a link to the appropriate scam report and any other information.

This would help prevent scammers from scamming after they have been banned by creating a new MCM account. Since they would also need to make a new skype, and PayPal account, as well as a new steam, bitcoin etc, if they plan on using those in the deal. Which most scammers forget to do. Sometimes people don't even make a new MCM account and watch the forum and add people on skype.

Obviously adding every one who has ever scammed to this would be a huge task, so it would have to start when it released. It would work by either M6Gaming or Doge after banning a user adding as much info as possible to the database. It would likely only take them 2 mins each time, and would be as simple as entering some information into a few boxes and pressing add. This ultimately would reduce the amount of scam reports. Which looking at the scam reports section is something that's needed.

This would take some time and money to develop, and if this is a problem I volunteer to code it myself. Mick all you would have to do is agree to the idea, and host it on the MCM web server. Possibly add it to the navigation bar too.

 

[Fire]

Is listing their Skype really a breach of privacy?

Most of this information is already publicly displayed in various scam reports. Its just harder to find. If this is a breach of privacy then should all the archived scam reports be deleted too, since they contain all the same information, and are publicly available?

 

[omarhachach]

Is listing their Skype really a breach of privacy?

Most of this information is already publicly displayed in various scam reports. Its just harder to find. If this is a breach of privacy then should all the archived scam reports be deleted too, since they contain all the same information, and are publicly available?

Yes, keeping records and all of their past history is fine, but encouraging (actively doing) doxing is a whole different thing.
I don't care if this person scammed for $10k, he shouldn't have his privacy breached.

 

[Fire]

Yes, keeping records and all of their past history is fine, but encouraging (actively doing) doxing is a whole different thing.
I don't care if this person scammed for $10k, he shouldn't have his privacy breached.

So keeping scam reports with all that info in is fine, but effectively making a better search function isn't?

Also the database wouldn't be a dox. As stated in the thread, all it gives is a link to the scam report associated with any of the entered information.

 

[subbotted]

More Realistic Suggestion

Store all scammers on a database, but not have all their information publicly accessible. You do a database query for a Skype name, MC-Market name, etc and it will either return "Clean User" or something similar or "Scammer, be cautious" with links to scam reports, proof, or related.

 

[omarhachach]

So keeping scam reports with all that info in is fine, but effectively making a better search function isn't?

Also the database wouldn't be a dox. As stated in the thread, all it gives is a link to the scam report associated with any of the entered information.

Yup. Let's say: Facebook. On your Facebook, you can find info about yourself, maybe you posted a comment stating your birthday.
Now let's say Facebook picks up all this info and puts it in a database available for all. This was "publicly available", but this just steps it up to a whole another level, actively encouring displaying users private info.

LeakedSource - they pick up on "publicly available" leaked databases, and make a neat and easy search for yours, and other peoples information. But tell me, you wouldn't have gone through those gb's on gb's of information to find something, they're actively encouraging doxing.

And as stated in the thread:

mc-market.org/scammers that users can access to enter any of the following details.

Skype names,
MCM names (including ones banned for ban evading),
Email,
PayPal email,
BitCoin address,
Other known names, steam, youtube etc.

This isn't just a link to a scam report. And what if there is no scam report, you still want this info correct? This would require looking through each and every post, every message, their registered data.
This is a huge task for the few staff we have here.

Your idea is plain stupid and should not be considered.

 

[subbotted]

omarhachach dont pop a blood vessel its a valid and smart suggestion. It may not be the best on privacy but it can be easily edited.

It can look like:

Do you see any privacy issues in that? I sure don't, you can make a simple form (like I did in 5 minutes), which takes a alias, skype name, etc, you click "Search Users", and it will return how many scammers, or something similar.

No released information. No privacy issues. Keeps buyers/sellers safe.

 

[Fire]

This isn't just a link to a scam report. And what if there is no scam report, you still want this info correct?

Read the thread properly, that's what the user can enter, not what is displayed.

This is a huge task for the few staff we have here.

Again read the thread, I'm not talking about what is said in PM's. I'm talking about scam reports, where the person has been found guilty of scamming. Not what's in posts or PM's.

Yup. Let's say: Facebook. On your Facebook, you can find info about yourself, maybe you posted a comment stating your birthday.
Now let's say Facebook picks up all this info and puts it in a database available for all. This was "publicly available", but this just steps it up to a whole another level, actively encouring displaying users private info.

Yet again, actually read the thread, it doesn't display anything more than a link to a scam report.[DOUBLEPOST=1481458817][/DOUBLEPOST]

omarhachach dont pop a blood vessel its a valid and smart suggestion. It may not be the best on privacy but it can be easily edited.

It can look like:

Do you see any privacy issues in that? I sure don't, you can make a simple form (like I did in 5 minutes), which takes a alias, skype name, etc, you click "Search Users", and it will return how many scammers, or something similar.

No released information. No privacy issues. Keeps buyers/sellers safe.

I'll edit the thread when I'm back later to include that. If a scam report link is such a breach of privacy, then that would be a great alternative.

 

[subbotted]

Fire and if it finds a scammer:

(That is just an example response, it isn't an actual working tool )

 

[omarhachach]

omarhachach dont pop a blood vessel its a valid and smart suggestion. It may not be the best on privacy but it can be easily edited.

It can look like:

Do you see any privacy issues in that? I sure don't, you can make a simple form (like I did in 5 minutes), which takes a alias, skype name, etc, you click "Search Users", and it will return how many scammers, or something similar.

No released information. No privacy issues. Keeps buyers/sellers safe.

This is a great idea, but the implementation would be really hard. That is why I have to disagree.
This is like what HF has, but this cannot be used for anything other than IP adresses, or email adresses (which are confirmed on this site).

Spoiler: Aliases

These are my aliases:
Omar
OmarH
Omar H
Gandolf
Hachach
Snorlax
And all these with a _ after.
<And some other ones>

Hachach is an available name here on MCM, MCSell, and a lot of other places.'
How would you prevent other people from using these aliases, it is hard to implement, which is why I have to disagree.
Nothing with the privacy here.[DOUBLEPOST=1481459481][/DOUBLEPOST]

Read the thread properly, that's what the user can enter, not what is displayed.

Again read the thread, I'm not talking about what is said in PM's. I'm talking about scam reports, where the person has been found guilty of scamming. Not what's in posts or PM's.

Yet again, actually read the thread, it doesn't display anything more than a link to a scam report.[DOUBLEPOST=1481458817][/DOUBLEPOST]
I'll edit the thread when I'm back later to include that. If a scam report link is such a breach of privacy, then that would be a great alternative.

These are horrible answers, but I did read the thread:

up a link to the appropriate scam report and any other information.

The only thing I would agree with is a private database for staff. Staff can search up any IP adress, and it would see if there are matches. They would be able to search up a Skype, etc.

They wouldn't be able to see the actual info, only search it up. Like what subbotted suggested. Just private, and only for staff.

 

[Ore0]

mcreport.net

 

[Shattered]

Lets just forget how you guys don't care about peoples privacy.

This won't work anyways because scammers change their aliases & they can check this 'database' themselves.

 

[Marquis]

They could do this but they might not want to go through all the effort of creating ones, after scamming once they'll probably give up on scamming.

Scammers rarely scam once, then never scam again. If they get banned for scamming, they're more than likely going to give less of a shit and keep doing it.

 

[Hawkk]

Okay, basic idea of this is to have a webpage, e.g. mc-market.org/scammers that users can access to enter any of the following details.

Skype names,
MCM names (including ones banned for ban evading),
Email,
PayPal email,
BitCoin address,
Other known names, steam, youtube etc.

This is basically Cre8tionz' idea LOL

Edit: I didn't see someone else's post about this rip

The idea isn't the worst idea, but it's kind of screwing over Cre8tionz and what his idea was about

 

[Ivain]

This is not a bad idea, but as others have said the IP and paypal email are, as far as I know, illegal. However, any online usernames they are known by can be added.
This is already being done by means of the MCAU blacklist, but maybe we can make a MCM version of it where a scam report being closed with the "banned" tag automatically adds the "known as" field to the database with a link to the archived scam report.[DOUBLEPOST=1481568994][/DOUBLEPOST]

Lets just forget how you guys don't care about peoples privacy.

This won't work anyways because scammers change their aliases & they can check this 'database' themselves.

I'm sorry but if you scam someone you really have no right to complain if your SKYPE gets blacklisted. I agree paypal email and IP are too much, but skype name and steam alias etc etc is perfectly fine.
And while they CAN work around it and change alias constantly, it forces them to change alias after every single scam, instead of being able to use the same alias multiple times.

 

[Ore0]

This is not a bad idea, but as others have said the IP and paypal email are, as far as I know, illegal. However, any online usernames they are known by can be added.
This is already being done by means of the MCAU blacklist, but maybe we can make a MCM version of it where a scam report being closed with the "banned" tag automatically adds the "known as" field to the database with a link to the archived scam report.[DOUBLEPOST=1481568994][/DOUBLEPOST]
I'm sorry but if you scam someone you really have no right to complain if your SKYPE gets blacklisted. I agree paypal email and IP are too much, but skype name and steam alias etc etc is perfectly fine.
And while they CAN work around it and change alias constantly, it forces them to change alias after every single scam, instead of being able to use the same alias multiple times.

Yes!

 

[Fire]

Lets just forget how you guys don't care about peoples privacy.

This won't work anyways because scammers change their aliases & they can check this 'database' themselves.

Honestly, I care about a scammers privacy, as much as the scammers care about the people they scam.

They can make new accounts etc, but if someone adds me on skype and they only have a couple of contacts (since skype tells you how many they have.) Then that's a good sign something is up. Yes, they could add random people, and if someone wants to scam badly enough, they will. But its just a matter of making it as hard as possible, and adding more ways they can slip up and get caught in the process.

I don't agree with their IP been made available, that's why I didn't include it in the thread, because there are likely other people in their house too, that had nothing to do with the scam and would have their internet knocked offline by people DDoSing them, as a kind of revenge.

PayPal email maybe, the email its self wouldn't be made available to people, they couldn't just search someone's name and get that. But if they already know the email, and enter it. Then it would tell them if its been used tin a scam before. Say if I'm about to loan someone some money, so they give me their PayPal email to send it. I would run a search on it, and if it brings up a result ill know not to lend to them. Their privacy hasn't been breached, they gave me it to me. Same with skype name etc, they will have been the one to add me, so will have given me their skype.

 

[Leon]

omarhachach dont pop a blood vessel its a valid and smart suggestion. It may not be the best on privacy but it can be easily edited.

It can look like:


Do you see any privacy issues in that? I sure don't, you can make a simple form (like I did in 5 minutes), which takes a alias, skype name, etc, you click "Search Users", and it will return how many scammers, or something similar.

No released information. No privacy issues. Keeps buyers/sellers safe.

I like this idea, (removing image way too big) because if they come back positive you can look around on the website and find out more about them if you need, if they're clean you can just continue doing business.