Should schools stay open during lockdown?

[TENE]

Each to their own. I was just pointing out the fact you were praising Joe Biden xD

I don't like either, but I rather have biden as President then have another 4 years with trump.[DOUBLEPOST=1604288958][/DOUBLEPOST]

At least we can agree Biden is an idiot, Trump can be but not as much as Biden.

The more you know.

Trump is even more of an idiot LOL. You would expect the american people to figure this out and realize, but I guess not. Also isn't it funny theres more republicans now leaning towards the democratic side then the other way around??[DOUBLEPOST=1604288977][/DOUBLEPOST]Common sense isn't so common :8

 

[Scroll32]

I don't like either, but I rather have biden as President then have another 4 years with trump.[DOUBLEPOST=1604288958][/DOUBLEPOST]
Trump is even more of an idiot LOL. You would expect the american people to figure this out and realize, but I guess not. Also isn't it funny theres more republicans now leaning towards the democratic side then the other way around??[DOUBLEPOST=1604288977][/DOUBLEPOST]Common sense isn't so common :8

I don't seem to get it, why is he an "idiot". Sure he has some policies I disagree with but I don't see how he's an idiot.

 

[TENE]

I don't seem to get it, why is he an "idiot". Sure he has some policies I disagree with but I don't see how he's an idiot.

LOL LMFAOOO please. If you can't see how he's an idiot you have to be braindead and blind.[DOUBLEPOST=1604289483][/DOUBLEPOST]

I don't seem to get it, why is he an "idiot". Sure he has some policies I disagree with but I don't see how he's an idiot.

I stated it above.

 

[Scroll32]

LOL LMFAOOO please. If you can't see how he's an idiot you have to be braindead and blind.[DOUBLEPOST=1604289483][/DOUBLEPOST]
I stated it above.

Being that I am "braindead" and "blind" mind giving me some context? At bare minimum, compared to Biden. I agree with some of his policies, but what has he done that is idiotic.

 

[Yoda]

I don't like either, but I rather have biden as President then have another 4 years with trump.[DOUBLEPOST=1604288958][/DOUBLEPOST]
Trump is even more of an idiot LOL. You would expect the american people to figure this out and realize, but I guess not. Also isn't it funny theres more republicans now leaning towards the democratic side then the other way around??[DOUBLEPOST=1604288977][/DOUBLEPOST]Common sense isn't so common :8

What has Trump done bad for you?

 

[TENE]

Being that I am "braindead" and "blind" mind giving me some context? At bare minimum, compared to Biden. I agree with some of his policies, but what has he done that is idiotic.

Literally wrote a whole paragraph on Trump. If you go to page 2 you'll see it.[DOUBLEPOST=1604289933][/DOUBLEPOST]

What has Trump done bad for you?

Literally wrote a whole paragraph on Trump. If you go to page 2 you'll see it. Also if you think Trump hasn't done his job properly you're a delusional kangaroo.

 

[Leeiuum]

I'd just like to say my opinion of Trump and say he's not an idiot or a moron, but in fact a manipulator and a dictator rather than a leader.

He knows exactly what he is doing (hence why he's not an idiot) and is using republican policies to later down the line feel the need to do anything he wishes to, as the right-wing will vote for him without his supposed true intentions, there being a big difference between the right (the Republicans) and the extreme-right (Trump). You can see this with trying to manipulate and scare voters into voting for him and encouraging violence.

I admit that Trump has done some, uh, "good" stuff but only to add on to his political career, but more being bad than good since America looks like it's going to be in another civil war very soon if Trump gets re-elected.

I don't play much into US politics but from what I've seen he's a psychopath, but not an idiot.

 

[Yoda]

Also if you think Trump hasn't done his job properly you're a delusional kangaroo.

You just proved my point, thanks

Scroll32 they always come around xD

 

[Scroll32]

Despite the mentality behind opening schools for the benefit of student welfares and mental health, unfortunately, paradoxically, neither option of opening or closing is a good decision. You simply don't know the story of every single student, you have no idea what they may be experiencing or if their family is at-risk. I was in high school and my mom had breast cancer, and my dad had lung cancer. If I was going to school still during this pandemic, it wouldn't make sense for me to go to school.

Remote learning sucks, but its the best way to proceed right now. Otherwise, these kids (albeit a very small percentage) will just become meat shields and inadvertently harm others in the process. It's not a matter of mental health, it's a matter of minimizing impact, with the understand that there will be some impact.

You shouldn't shut down all the schools for that though. For sure have an online option, but you can't shut down all schools just for this small percent.

Literally wrote a whole paragraph on Trump. If you go to page 2 you'll see it.[DOUBLEPOST=1604289933][/DOUBLEPOST]
Literally wrote a whole paragraph on Trump. If you go to page 2 you'll see it. Also if you think Trump hasn't done his job properly you're a delusional kangaroo.

I did an analysis on your page, I don't see where he is more of an idiot then Biden. Is my analysis off.

 

[Scroll32]

@lI touched on this earlier, if we have to protect a percent then we should ban the following
Cars
Unhealthy foods
MCM (leads to depression, which could kill)
Knives
Guns
Etc...
Ofcourse we don't plan to ban all of these things because it isn't practical. Also, those numbers assume that every single student gets covid. But thats besides the point, as you didn't completely read my post. I specifically state there should be an option to stay online, and it should very from place to place (I didn't mention this but it should be). There shouldn't be the same regulation for a school in the middle of Wyoming with low cases to New York city schools. I also want to point out the financial burden on this. If students can't go to school, then parents can't work. This is going to end up hurting the parents income, which in turn hurts the children, which you are calling me a "psychopath" for not protecting. The idea of the education system is a completely different mater, which I am fine discussing in dms or on here (maybe tomorrow as I am kinda tired atm).
This is the problem with people regarding the pandemic. Just because it's 1% doesn't make that okay. You're forgetting we're talking about 100 million kids...that's 1 million kids statistically based on that 1% factor that would end up having a fatal condition. If anything, that makes you the psychopath for openly acknowledging the implications of doing that. Sometimes the minority needs to be protected too, and I'm not saying that from the prospect of being a social justice warrior. My ideologies I believe are fair, but for you to say this is just downright ignorant and concerning.

As an American, the education system is broken anyway. It's outdated. I never did any homework graduated with a 1.8GPA, consistently scored almost perfect scores on my standardized final exams, and still graduated early. Instead of opening schools normally, maybe it's time to completely rethink the public education system entirely. Teachers do not get paid enough to knowingly go to work during this time and put themselves at risk and their loved ones at risk. The implications carry along the entire food chain. You're ill-educated on this and I advise you to think about this in a much larger scale than just a percentage.[/QUOTE]
Frank

 

[Leeiuum]

Calling trump a psychopath because he doesn't care for others opinions that doesn't meet his agenda is just incorrect.

I mean I'm only gathering second hand sources that just like I've said, he and his supporters have used extreme natures to try and silence others of their votes and opinions. Getting sources from articles and news sources but to tell you the truth I no longer trust the articles anymore. I'm just gathering what I've heard since the thread lead to the US when the topic for this thread was about schools in the UK.

But there is tonnes of evidence where Trump supporters have recklessly caused violence, I'm just pinpointing what happened yesterday with the Texas transport and Trump supported them.

I draw my line when politicians support those that cause and incites needless violence.

 

[RTCFlyer]

I draw my line when politicians support those that cause needless violence.

I agree violence in politics should never exist, people should be able to have a difference in opinion. However, the majority of Trump supporters don't cause needless violence. Most people on the right defend freedom of speech, the left however, has had numerous examples of silencing speech and even outright creating threats/violence to those who don't share the same political view or opinion. I'm not saying everyone who's a democrat or on the left does this, however I will claim that there's a lot more examples of violence/silencing on the left. In terms of what you're referring to, I don't believe there's enough evidence to claim they caused any sort of violence towards the Biden campaign. While the claims are that supporters tried to run the bus off the road etc., my question would be where's the video evidence supporting this? I think it's a bit far fetched to believe absolutely no one on the bus recorded this incident taking place. There's video of trucks driving alongside the bus probably with the goal to surround the bus on the highway, but nothing showing direct impact/collisions with the bus.

Also in terms of the original question, I think schools should remain open despite the potential risk. People are going to catch covid with or without the closing of schools. (I'm coming from a US perspective) Despite any regulations governments might put in place, people will still gather for various reasons, parties, birthdays, holidays etc.

 

[Leeiuum]

I agree violence in politics should never exist, people should be able to have a difference in opinion. However, the majority of Trump supporters don't cause needless violence. Most people on the right defend freedom of speech, the left however, has had numerous examples of silencing speech and even outright creating threats/violence to those who don't share the same political view or opinion. I'm not saying everyone who's a democrat or on the left does this, however I will claim that there's a lot more examples of violence/silencing on the left. In terms of what you're referring to, I don't believe there's enough evidence to claim they caused any sort of violence towards the Biden campaign. While the claims are that supporters tried to run the bus off the road etc., my question would be where's the video evidence supporting this? I think it's a bit far fetched to believe absolutely no one on the bus recorded this incident taking place. There's video of trucks driving alongside the bus probably with the goal to surround the bus on the highway, but nothing showing direct impact/collisions with the bus.

Also in terms of the original question, I think schools should remain open despite the potential risk. People are going to catch covid with or without the closing of schools. (I'm coming from a US perspective) Despite any regulations governments might put in place, people will still gather for various reasons, parties, birthdays, holidays etc.

Oh we have the same problem over here in the UK, which helps reinforce my side where I agree with a lot of things on both sides. There's a lot of right and wrongs.

You can find Trump's support for the Biden transport via Twitter here, but a reply actually has evidence that one of their trucks had tried to take over the actual escort's lane and crashed into them. Can find that footage here.

To be honest I could see how people could defend this, but the problem is that you can see the SUV was in the appropriate lane in the first couple of seconds behind the bus to which the pickup was on the shoulder lane, and then when the collision happened you can definitely see a collision and a fight for the lane - being immature, reckless and violent, it reinforces my argument that no matter the disagreement is that there should be no violence in politics.

To ease my own mind it's not a popular opinion and a lot of Trump voters have backed off their votes for Tuesday.

 

[RTCFlyer]

Oh we have the same problem over here in the UK, which helps reinforce my side where I agree with a lot of things on both sides. There's a lot of right and wrongs.

You can find Trump's support for the Biden transport via Twitter here, but a reply actually has evidence that one of their trucks had tried to take over the actual escort's lane and crashed into them. Can find that footage here.

To be honest I could see how people could defend this, but the problem is that you can see the SUV was in the appropriate lane in the first couple of seconds behind the bus to which the pickup was on the shoulder lane, and then when the collision happened you can definitely see a collision and a fight for the lane - being immature, reckless and violent, it reinforces my argument that no matter the disagreement is that there should be no violence in politics.

To ease my own mind it's not a popular opinion and a lot of Trump voters have backed off their votes for Tuesday.

A lot of the footage doesn't show the full situation, I'm not defending the truck for doing what it may have done or appeared to do however looking into what happened a bit more I found a youtube video of a guy showing two parts of the actual video.
The main explanation ends at about 2:19, Here's the video

 

[TENE]

I don't want to get too political, but the whole reason why trump was voted in initially is because the American people are tired of hearing bullshit from major news sources. It's blatantly obvious that they are bias in their own ways, to a point that it's just garbage. It isn't informative anymore. It's just "Guess who said this" or "Guess whos a racist" or "Wow, trump really did this" and twist his words or make it into something it isn't.

Yes, trump is sometimes a knuckleheads. Yes, it is safe to say that he has said some dumb things like the whole situation with bleach/Lysol. Honestly though, let's be real. Seriously? Why would anyone even believe this? I understand why people would get so upset over it because it is indeed fucked up, but anyone with any reasonable knowledge and were mentally coherent knows that this is a bad idea. Calling trump a psychopath because he doesn't care for others opinions that doesn't meet his agenda is just incorrect. At best, trump is just an asshole like the next person, he just gets the spotlight more because he's the leader of the free world.

I wouldn't go as far as to say there would be a civil war if he gets reelected. Possible, yes - but nobody whos running for the presidency is exactly good. We've had shit luck with candidates since bill Clinton, so don't say that trump is the cause of a potential civil war. These issues that are happening now were kicked down the road from that era, and now and only know are these things starting to boil over. If anything, we need a strong and firm leader. Unfortunately, out of who we can vote for as part of our democracy, some people view that Trump may be the best option. Otherwise, there will be another silent majority.[DOUBLEPOST=1604291412][/DOUBLEPOST]

This is the problem with people regarding the pandemic. Just because it's 1% doesn't make that okay. You're forgetting we're talking about 100 million kids...that's 1 million kids statistically based on that 1% factor that would end up having a fatal condition. If anything, that makes you the psychopath for openly acknowledging the implications of doing that. Sometimes the minority needs to be protected too, and I'm not saying that from the prospect of being a social justice warrior. My ideologies I believe are fair, but for you to say this is just downright ignorant and concerning.

As an American, the education system is broken anyway. It's outdated. I never did any homework graduated with a 1.8GPA, consistently scored almost perfect scores on my standardized final exams, and still graduated early. Instead of opening schools normally, maybe it's time to completely rethink the public education system entirely. Teachers do not get paid enough to knowingly go to work during this time and put themselves at risk and their loved ones at risk. The implications carry along the entire food chain. You're ill-educated on this and I advise you to think about this in a much larger scale than just a percentage.

The American education is shit. Teachers aren't paid enough, but also some don't even give a fuck

 

[Leeiuum]

A lot of the footage doesn't show the full situation, I'm not defending the truck for doing what it may have done or appeared to do however looking into what happened a bit more I found a youtube video of a guy showing two parts of the actual video.
The main explanation ends at about 2:19, Here's the video

As mentioned around 1:42 by the same guy, the guy says (or at least I'm paraphrasing):
"they were just going over and collide with the truck, they refused to acknowledge there was a Trump truck there, so the Trump truck gets mad and kinda, just purposely runs into the car and knocks it into the other parking space {lane}"

Even he acknowledges the argument that the driver incited and committed violence. To me at least it doesn't matter who's right or wrong in road laws. The driver of pickup truck "purposely" used a weapon to harass and target another person. Usually vehicles are not weapons but to incite violence, that's exactly what it was in this context.

Just saying I know you're not defending the dude, I just wanted to further clarify both our points.

I don't disagree with you though. It looks exactly like they claim to be. But I stopped defending the pickup driver when he swerved into the SUV.

Also here's the Twitter link that the guy had in the video. Was digging it up myself because Twitter's compression is shit followed through YouTube's compression.. At least I'll only have to suffer through Twitter's compression. here

 

[TENE]

You just proved my point, thanks

Scroll32 they always come around xD

Never will support Trump lol. (ahh you're from texas that explains a lot)

 

[I_Luv_Cowz]

Never will support Trump lol. (ahh you're from texas that explains a lot)

I don't like to play personality politics, if you look at Trump's actual policies and things he's done for this country his foreign relations and policies are much better than Obama's. The US's economy prospered under trump and biden would reverse all that and give the CCP more leverage and grow the CCP's economy instead of ours.