"Skripts" Should be banned from the Plugins thread and here's why...

[Ingots]

Hi, so I've recently been seeing an increase in so called "Skripts" coming into this thread. People claim that they're plugins when they're really not. They simply create a piece of code that hooks and depends on Skript otherwise it won't work. The worst part is for this simple form of coding, they're charging upwards of $30! into a existing plugin and requires it to work. A Plugin works for it's self and can hook into other plugins to enhance it's self.

Skripting in the end requires less effort and is less versatile than a plugin made in Java.
The thread is called Plugins and in my eyes, Skripts are just a "add-on" to an existing plugin that generally offer less than a plugin. Back to my starting point... I've seen may people be scammed as they think they're getting a plugin when they actually end up being disappointed and get a Skript. To combat this ban Skripts from the plugins thread or just create an independent Skripts part of the forum.

(If I've offended any "Skripters" in any way, I don't care... It's an opinion, deal with it everyone has one.)

 

[CombatBorn]

I know Skript isn't more efficient, I know that for a fact, have known that, that will never change. That wasn't what I said at all. I simply said that an experienced Skript developer could write a much more efficient script than a java plugin. AGAIN, for the third time now, it's based on the developer, and how the code was executed!

 

[Tom]

Yes java is more superior over Skript. The one issue I have with people is when they say a script only takes 5 seconds. Most well known people actually spend a long time on there skripts. Take this one for example https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/survival-games.8808/ and if someone knows what they are doing they can work just as well. Coming from someone who's done skript for a long time and is now moving to java I must say that Skript will never be more superior over Java, However more people are starting to use it and with the release of script 3.0 we will just have to wait a see.

 

[Shortninja]

CombatBorn Since your argument suggests that the said "developer" is experienced, then we can say that an experienced Java developer should be much more knowledgeable with writing the code, making your point invalid again.

 

[CombatBorn]

CombatBorn Since your argument suggests that the said "developer" is experienced, then we can say that an experienced Java developer should be much more knowledgeable with writing the code, making your point invalid again.

I have experience with Java, I know all of the basics of it. I just have been too caught up in my Skript work to consider taking Java a bit more seriously. It's pretty ignorant to say that all java plugins are more efficient than a script, no matter what. There are plenty of examples to prove how invalid that is.

 

[Shades]

I agree with this. I see people going around asking if they should learn Skript or Java. Like comparing those 2 together?! Skript isn't even a real language and won't be useful in life. I just get so pissed when I see some kid going around saying they can make plugins or sell a "plugin" that was made using Skript and they sell it for some insane price. Sure, Skript is easy and helps some kids who don't know java make some mechanics for their server but the truth is Skript was made through Java and they're simply scripts, not plugins. Google can say this better:

 

[Shortninja]

CombatBorn It is pretty ignorant to say that all Skript plugins are more efficient than Java, no matter what.

There ya go, fixed your lie.

Please prove to me how Skript is more efficient than Java? I would love for you to do that in a truthful manner.

I'm not being biased either, I know my signature says "Java Enthusiast" but I'm stating facts. The other kids around here are the ones being biased. They have yet to prove any of their statements through quantitative data.

 

[JJDAHM]

I have experience with Java, I know all of the basics of it. I just have been too caught up in my Skript work to consider taking Java a bit more seriously. It's pretty ignorant to say that all java plugins are more efficient than a script, no matter what. There are plenty of examples to prove how invalid that is.

Please do some research. Skript is not faster than java unless the java is written terribly.

 

[JJDAHM]

Skript is limited to Bukkit, whereas Java is not. You Skript kids are trying to compare a $20 gift card for Walmart to a $20 bill.

Skript isn't limited to bukkit. The nice thing is, I could just start writing some java right in the middle of a skript.

 

[Shortninja]

JJDAHM Hilarious. Your ignorance is so strong that you don't even know how ignorant you are. This is not to be taken offensive, but Java has much more functionality than you think.

Skript is limited to Bukkit, whereas Java is not. You Skript kids are trying to compare a $20 gift card for Walmart to a $20 bill.

 

[Skionz]

Skript isn't limited to bukkit. The nice thing is, I could just start writing some java right in the middle of a skript.

I'm not so sure about that.

 

[CombatBorn]

CombatBorn It is pretty ignorant to say that all Skript plugins are more efficient than Java, no matter what.

There ya go, fixed your lie.

Please prove to me how Skript is more efficient than Java? I would love for you to do that in a truthful manner.

An example:
I want to have unique swords on my server, each having a unique ID defined in the lore.

Java Developer:
Oh, okay, seems simple enough. How about every time a new sword is created, I'll just add 1 to an integer variable, and give that ID to the new weapon! Sounds great! Let's try to find the ID of this sword, shall we? I'm going to make a loop that continues to loop until the number contained in the unique item's lore is found! AH, there, perfect! ID 1 works!, ID 2 FLAWLESS... ID 23,124 I think I killed my server..

Skript Developer:
Well Mr. Java Developer.. You could have done this in a much simpler manner! If you simply isolate the numbers in the item's lore, and parsed it as an integer, you can find the ID at a much more efficient manner!

Again, it all depends on who's developing it...

 

[Devon]

Devon you must live an ignorant life to honestly think that Skript can do more than Java. You can't compare Skript to Java. Skript is an API within an API..

Pretty sure I didn't say that bud

 

[CombatBorn]

Ironic.



You're obliviously incompetent asf if you think that's the only way to have unique swords..

-sighs-
It's SIMPLY an example!

 

[Skionz]

An example:
I want to have unique swords on my server, each having a unique ID defined in the lore.

Java Developer:
Oh, okay, seems simple enough. How about every time a new sword is created, I'll just add 1 to an integer variable, and give that ID to the new weapon! Sounds great! Let's try to find the ID of this sword, shall we? I'm going to make a loop that continues to loop until the number contained in the unique item's lore is found! AH, there, perfect! ID 1 works!, ID 2 FLAWLESS... ID 23,124 I think I killed my server..

Skript Developer:
Well Mr. Java Developer..

Again, it all depends on who's developing it...

The point we are trying to make is that if both developers do this:

You could have done this in a much simpler manner! If you simply isolate the numbers in the item's lore, and parsed it as an integer, you can find the ID at a much more efficient manner!

Java will be more efficient.

 

[Shortninja]

CombatBorn Please prove your point through quantitative data. Your argument only makes sense in a single context because experienced Java developers aren't that stupid (most of the time).

Here's an interesting concept to think about: Java developers tend to think more like a programmer because they usually come from other languages like C. With this in mind, it is MUCH more likely that a Java developer will create a more efficient solution compared to a Skript developer because they think about computing speeds more often.

You also have to realize that iteration (do Skript developers even know what iteration is?) is much faster than you think. Boolean algebra takes NANO SECONDS.

Alexander M My statement being ironic or his ignorance being ironic?