Staff seem to be pretty inactive

[doodle]

Yet you've NEVER mentioned #3 to staff or I (That I know of) until now? How many months later? 6 months?
And you CAN send paypal a email with the transaction ID of the dispute and payment and say "Hey, I was sent a payment by so after I sent them a request for the money and they paid me. But I never got the money, and they made a dispute for the above yet I don't have permission to see this dispute. Can you fix it? Here is my email and paypal if you need to contact me back *insert email and paypal information here* and here is the information about the other user *inserts their email and paypal here* Here's the transaction ID from their side *inserts it here*
AND don't you dare say I never gave you the information because it was ALL in the screenshots in DMs.

Mentioning #3 in the report would be so unnecessary. Why would it matter if in the end, they found nothing in their records? And I believe I also mentioned it to Kram outside/before when I had a discussion with him. “And you CAN send them an email with the TID” bruh the fuck? I called them for 2 HOURS. 120 MINUTES. Calls > emails and they returned the results so much faster. And at the end of the day, they claimed that transaction never appeared in their records - what the fuck do you expect me to do?

 

[Cleora]

Mentioning #3 in the report would be so unnecessary. Why would it matter if in the end, they found nothing in their records? And I believe I also mentioned it to Kram outside/before when I had a discussion with him. “And you CAN send them an email with the TID” bruh the fuck? I called them for 2 HOURS. 120 MINUTES. Calls > emails and they returned the results so much faster.

You're implying ALL of this is paypals fault which I find hilarious-
Also, why would you mention this to JUST Kram when this is originally be between US and would have shined LIGHT on the situation?
Followed by:
1. You sent me a payment request (once you could finally spell my paypal email correctly) with a 4 digit code.
2. I paid off the payment request and messaged you on MCM the 4 digit code
3. You said you needed to download BLC to purchase it (Notice how you said this before checking paypal/payment)
4. You then said you where gone for the week/weekend and needed to be on your other computer to do it. (Followed by no noticing or recollection of no payment)
5. Finally you announced you had NOT got paid followed by a lengthy conversation with NOT A VIDEO for proof, but a GIF. There is a difference. Followed by screenshots of your most recent payments for reasons.

This leads me to believe you did get paid, made a tightly timed gif that excluded the payment, MAY have bought the fancy multi-color name tag using most or some of the money from the payment (in order to try to get rid of it) or hid it. Followed by 2 major excuses BEFORE you even mentioned you 'didn't' receive the money. And just by your word, added a '2 hour phone call with paypal confirming you didn't get the payment and where not added to the dispute' but having no proof of this nor did you OR Kram mention this to me UNTIL now.

 

[doodle]

You're implying ALL of this is paypals fault which I find hilarious-
Also, why would you mention this to JUST Kram when this is originally be between US and would have shined LIGHT on the situation?
Followed by:
1. You sent me a payment request (once you could finally spell my paypal email correctly) with a 4 digit code.
2. I paid off the payment request and messaged you on MCM the 4 digit code
3. You said you needed to download BLC to purchase it (Notice how you said this before checking paypal/payment)
4. You then said you where gone for the week/weekend and needed to be on your other computer to do it. (Followed by no noticing or recollection of no payment)
5. Finally you announced you had NOT got paid followed by a lengthy conversation with NOT A VIDEO for proof, but a GIF. There is a difference. Followed by screenshots of your most recent payments for reasons.

This leads me to believe you did get paid, made a tightly timed gif that excluded the payment, MAY have bought the fancy multi-color name tag using most or some of the money from the payment (in order to try to get rid of it) or hid it. Followed by 2 major excuses BEFORE you even mentioned you 'didn't' receive the money. And just by your word, added a '2 hour phone call with paypal confirming you didn't get the payment and where not added to the dispute' but having no proof of this nor did you OR Kram mention this to me UNTIL now.

1. I was unaware of Badlion client. You had not specified I needed to actually download the client to buy you items. Why would it matter whether I mentioned that before or after the payment?

2. Because you had not mentioned this, and because it was summer vacation, I was away from my Windows PC, and had only a Mac laptop. At the time of this, BLC had not been released to Mac yet, just Windows. (Maybe Linux? Idk)

3. I had already spent too much effort and time on something that was not my fault, why would I bother to record a full length video, thus exposing all my personal information to the MCM community? The only fault on my end was that I did not know I had to download a client. By that point, I was happy to refund you. But when I went to hit that refund button, no payments were available in my PayPal for me to refund.

4. Please explain in thorough detail why I would scam $20 and then spend all that money plus $5 extra on a name tag I wouldn't get to use if I knew I'd be banned for scamming? ESPECIALLY considering I did not know you or had ever spoken to you before this occurred.

If you'd really love me to, I'd be happy to PM Kram a video of me scrolling through every PayPal transaction I've had to prove yours never appears with as many refreshes as his majesty requests. I, however, refuse to leak all of that information to the public on MCM.

 

[Orochimaru]

My support tickets all gotten replied too within 2 days to 1 week. Staff must hate you

 

[Cleora]

1. You don't and didn't need to download BL client in order to go to the shop and buy items. As I've stated you can go to the website and GIFT people as long as you put in their username, which I have stated.
2. BLC now supports MAC but like stated above it wouldn't matter because you don't need to download it in order to purchase a gif for someone.
3.No information would have been leaked if it was via support ticket; or dms with staff; then mentioned from staff to me on the situation. You never mentioned (until now) about refunding me VIA paypal. The only offer you could make me was a full refund in Venom (or whatever) which I told you I don't use anything but paypal. Then offered me $15.00-$10.00 usd in BTC, which yet again I had to explain I don't have, and most likely will never have or use.
4. I don't know why people try to scam, I never have scammed before and I don't see a point to it as it's fraud and jail time in real life- and as far as online (MCM) goes, would mean a permanent ban.

I suggest you talk to Kram about it via DMs and get him to relay the information to me. As I have a open ticket with Kram about all of this and am and will be relaying all information I have to him, with proof.

 

[doodle]

1. You don't and didn't need to download BL client in order to go to the shop and buy items. As I've stated you can go to the website and GIFT people as long as you put in their username, which I have stated.
2. BLC now supports MAC but like stated above it wouldn't matter because you don't need to download it in order to purchase a gif for someone.
3.No information would have been leaked if it was via support ticket; or dms with staff; then mentioned from staff to me on the situation. You never mentioned (until now) about refunding me VIA paypal. The only offer you could make me was a full refund in Venom (or whatever) which I told you I don't use anything but paypal. Then offered me $15.00-$10.00 usd in BTC, which yet again I had to explain I don't have, and most likely will never have or use.
4. I don't know why people try to scam, I never have scammed before and I don't see a point to it as it's fraud and jail time in real life- and as far as online (MCM) goes, would mean a permanent ban.

I suggest you talk to Kram about it via DMs and get him to relay the information to me. As I have a open ticket with Kram about all of this and am and will be relaying all information I have to him, with proof.

1/2. Those things are false due to improvements in BLC since the time this occurred.

3. I offered refunds before the report was concluded but said it was not final. (a) Of course I didn't want to spend $15+ out of my own pocket, especially at a time when $15 meant a lot to me. I'd rather wait to see how it pans out. (b) My initial reaction was, "Oh, just a mishap - I'll refund and she can find someone else." but I realized I there was no payment I had received. No notification or anything. (c) Why would I try to pay in PayPal, when clearly their systems weren't working well that day? If I had sent you the money via PayPal, the same thing easily could have happened on your end this time.

4. I never have scammed and never will scam. Especially not for $20, and even more so, it makes zero logical sense why I would "scam for $20, then spend $25 on the site I'd lose access to for scamming."

Cleora, you know this is PayPal's fault. You know I can't pay you out of my pocket. It was over 6 months now. Kram has clearly seen sufficient evidence from my side to confirm that I received no such payment. You can get mad at me all you want but to slander my name and call me a "scammer who got off Scott-free" is unacceptable. This is not my fault and this is most certainly not Kram's fault (and I sincerely don't think it was your fault either).

Kram has every right to PM me and ask for the video, but at the end of the day, he's going to watch the video and see what he saw in the report.[DOUBLEPOST=1579496206][/DOUBLEPOST]Anywho, it's almost midnight. I feel no anger towards you, Cleora, but I'd like to talk more about this tomorrow. PM me and we'll discuss further.

 

[Cleora]

1/2. Those things are false due to improvements in BLC since the time this occurred.

3. I offered refunds before the report was concluded but said it was not final. (a) Of course I didn't want to spend $15+ out of my own pocket, especially at a time when $15 meant a lot to me. I'd rather wait to see how it pans out. (b) My initial reaction was, "Oh, just a mishap - I'll refund and she can find someone else." but I realized I there was no payment I had received. No notification or anything. (c) Why would I try to pay in PayPal, when clearly their systems weren't working well that day? If I had sent you the money via PayPal, the same thing easily could have happened on your end this time.

4. I never have scammed and never will scam. Especially not for $20, and even more so, it makes zero logical sense why I would "scam for $20, then spend $25 on the site I'd lose access to for scamming."

Cleora, you know this is PayPal's fault. You know I can't pay you out of my pocket. It was over 6 months now. Kram has clearly seen sufficient evidence from my side to confirm that I received no such payment. You can get mad at me all you want but to slander my name and call me a "scammer who got off Scott-free" is unacceptable. This is not my fault and this is most certainly not Kram's fault (and I sincerely don't think it was your fault either).

Kram has every right to PM me and ask for the video, but at the end of the day, he's going to watch the video and see what he saw in the report.[DOUBLEPOST=1579496206][/DOUBLEPOST]Anywho, it's almost midnight. I feel no anger towards you, Cleora, but I'd like to talk more about this tomorrow. PM me and we'll discuss further.

I don't have much else to say that is not noticeably considered respectful. I don't see how paypal can fuck 3 major things up back to back to back. I either have the shittest luck in the word or paypal is scamming me.
1. Being the fact you request me for the payment and I paid it.
2. The fact you didn't get the payment YET it took from MY balance
and 3. The fact you where added to the dispute, and said you where added to the dispute, yet nothing has never came of it consider 'you can't see it'
I will TRY to call paypal up tomorrow and ask them relevant questions, just MAYBE I'll be able to get my money back OR have it paid through if there is no choice but to do so- and in hoping so you'd be able to refund it OR purchase the item as requested those many months ago. I how ever don't think they will take this case seriously considering the amount of time that's gone by.

 

[Sparko]

lmao this thread turned into a scam report one

 

[doodle]

lmao this thread turned into a scam report one

It already was one and she lost

I don't have much else to say that is not noticeably considered respectful. I don't see how paypal can fuck 3 major things up back to back to back. I either have the shittest luck in the word or paypal is scamming me.
1. Being the fact you request me for the payment and I paid it.
2. The fact you didn't get the payment YET it took from MY balance
and 3. The fact you where added to the dispute, and said you where added to the dispute, yet nothing has never came of it consider 'you can't see it'
I will TRY to call paypal up tomorrow and ask them relevant questions, just MAYBE I'll be able to get my money back OR have it paid through if there is no choice but to do so- and in hoping so you'd be able to refund it OR purchase the item as requested those many months ago. I how ever don't think they will take this case seriously considering the amount of time that's gone by.

Cleora - I don't know what to say, I am sorry, but there's nothing I can do. If I had actually received the money, I would have refunded you. And, just to be clear, that's not PayPal "fucking up 3 things back to back," that's PayPal fucking up one thing: It took the money from your balance and never delivered it to me. Because of that, there is no transaction ID in their records, no statement on my PayPal account, and no dispute I can physically join using PayPal. I did not want to turn this thread into a scam report-like thread, but you cannot slander my name and get away with it. Please either remove our circumstance from this thread with the untrue and unfair loaded language you've included and I will delete my messages, or trash the thread entirely and do not include statements that are just not valid or fair to me in any way in a new one.

 

[UnknownUsername]

y'all I still think yoshi should've been a mf Pokémon[DOUBLEPOST=1579535533][/DOUBLEPOST]Though on a real note, doodle, all in all it's still your responsibility for losing her money, whether or not PayPal fucked up, unless we're shown actual hard-ass evidence that PayPal malfunctioned and quite literally "poofed" the money, you're still responsible for it and where it goes.
As far as I know she still has the TID and your email that YOU validated to her upon requesting the money.

Both of you insulting each other isn't going to get you too anywhere either, grow the fuck up and settle this like adults.

 

[UnknownUsername]

No, I am not responsible for money I never received. How do you expect that to work? If that were the case, everyone would be faking sending money through PayPal. There is hard-ass evidence, you retard - that's why I won the scam report. If the TID was real, PayPal would have told me on the phone and I would have been able to respond to the dispute.


This was settled in the scam report I won because of my "hard-ass evidence." Maybe if you fucking used the search tool instead of typing whatever came to your head, you'd be able to understand this.

Kiddo, I'm not here to argue with you.
Imo that scam report was a bit biased towards you.
The way I see it as, the money was obviously taken out of her account & sent to an email you provided, there's got to be a compromise you two can work out.

 

[doodle]

Kiddo, I'm not here to argue with you.
Imo that scam report was a bit biased towards you.
The way I see it as, the money was obviously taken out of her account & sent to an email you provided, there's got to be a compromise you two can work out.

If you aren't here to argue, then don't say retarded shit :tup: The report wasn't biased, although I'd love to see some evidence on that :rofl: Like I said, I feel sorry for her, but I never got the money, I'm not going to dip into my own pockets for someone who slanders my name.

Cleora, maybe consider that this could have played an issue in why I never received the funds?

I at the time didn't have a bank card/master/visa card linked [to my PayPal].

 

[Cleora]

If you aren't here to argue, then don't say retarded shit :tup: The report wasn't biased, although I'd love to see some evidence on that :rofl: Like I said, I feel sorry for her, but I never got the money, I'm not going to dip into my own pockets for someone who slanders my name.

Cleora, maybe consider that this could have played an issue in why I never received the funds?

Hell no, you where not the only person I had paid in the recent days/weeks before AND after.
Plus while you where busy making excuses I (like I mentioned) was able to pay others to buy me BLC items Daigan was one.[DOUBLEPOST=1579546420][/DOUBLEPOST]Just in case anyone is wondering anymore more about the case with Doodle and myself;
I have called up paypal Canada, twice. And was able to confirm not once, but twice, by 2 different people that my payment WAS sent out and that the user who requested the money through sending me a paypal invoice, RECEIVED the money.
Which leads me to believe he is:
1. Lying
2. Got on the wrong paypal account and requested the money
3. Got me to pay that paypal so then he could transfer the money to another paypal

To back everything up, I asked him to do the following:
1. Take the transaction ID and call up paypal (Don't just fake it) and ask about it.
2. Get an EMAIL back saying/confirming that you haven't received the payment
3. Make sure you use your paypal account *inserts the paypal name here*. That is the account you requested the money on, that is the account that was paid, include THIS in the screenshot/video.
4. Have Kram back you up on the situation. Because from what I was able to provide, if he did side with you he will now side with me considering I have more proof now.

Which he had the following to say:
https://gyazo.com/773ebd388cc0aa802711ff4d3fe6dc4a
https://gyazo.com/1ffe7376b2db866ac51d4862e88c240b
https://gyazo.com/b034960034e600b0644635e57108fc87

That's the end of my conversation with him until he admits to something other then lying about not getting the money or does those 4 things- which doesn't seem likely at the moment. I have waited nearly 6 months for my $21.00USD and am not waiting another month for my money. I don't care what else he has to say, I don't care if he does or doesn't use this site anymore and quite frankly I don't care if he apologizes.

 

[Sloth]

This thread unfortunately devolved into an argument over a previous scam report. As far as the staff being inactive, I’d like to hear from actual staff members what might be going on. I’ve seen responses from former staff members as to what they think might be happening but even that is simply speculation.

 

[Cold]

No they are not inactive. They are just BuSy hAnDlinG ForuMs sTUff!

 

[US]

Just move on with our lives

 

[Cold]

Just move on with our lives

We HaVE no LIfE

 

[Thrallix]

I'm sure a lot of members would like to be staff.