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So, I'm only relaying information I can confirm, I cannot ensure that this is 100% accurate.

Now, a note for the staff: Deleting this will only prove my point, that you are too inconsiderate to even have a fair Scam Report, or resolution.

avsterbone_TEMP2 was banned for "Compromising a PayPal account". He was recently scammed by a [now banned] member by the name of pieguy for $50 "+ damages", since it is alleged that pieguy was using the files for personal profit and releasing them to others. Now, reportely pieguy used avsterbone's dispute service in the past, but didn't reset his PayPal password (like instructed to do so). Avsterbone logged in and sent himself $150.00. Now, pieguy made an alt to create a Scam Report (http://www.mc-market.org/threads/123085/). The only issue is - M6Gaming didn't give the two a chance to resolve it, he simply threw the ban hammer. That in itself is total crap. Now, as far as I am concerned, both Avi and pieguy have reached a solution, but only want to go through with it if Ajdin unbans Avi. As Ajdin always does (this is part of the double standard he has) says that pieguy might as well just call PayPal and file fraud cases. Why in the hell can't the two resolve it here? After all, I thought that's what a Scam Report is for. If all Scam Reports were like this, I'd of made fake stuff up and had members I dislike banned!

The whole thing I think is fair: Open the Scam Report back up and let them resolve it. After all, a resolved Scam Report is better than a member getting banned, and a fraud case opened up.

My Appeal to BeBosny
Before you read my appeal I ask you clear your head of all negative thoughts and read with an open/neutral mind. Thank You.

The Scam Report

First let's start with my Scam Report on pieguy (mc-market.org/threads/122944/). In summary, he was hired to do work on the server in exchange for $50. However, he ended up leaking those files causing damages to my server. In that Scam Report it is important to note the amount scammed. I didn't just put "$50" I put "$50 + damages" and I did that for a reason. After the scam report was closed in my favor that then gave me the license to attempt to get any lost funds back. Although this suggestion was declined, accordingly to your beliefs BeBosny you feel the Scam Report should be closed be any attempt to regain lost funds is made (mc-market.org/threads/105297/). By the end of the day the Scam Report closed in my favor and now it was up to me to attempt to get back my lost funds. I sent 2 payments to him. Half upfront as G&S and half at the end as F&F. I immediately chargebacked the $25 I sent as G&S and won. However, I still needed to get the other $25 back plus damages. It is important to note that even though I never declared what the "damages" were M6gaming never objected to them so that made me believe I had the licence to do what I did.

How I Gained Access to his PayPal

In order for you to understand how I got access to pieguy's PayPal we have to go back to this thread (mc-market.org/threads/101822/). For those who don't know I am known for never loosing a PayPal chargeback so I capitalized on that skill by launching this service. In this service I required users provide me with sensitive information so I can access their PayPal and attempt to chargeback on their behalf. I had many customers throughout this and one of them was pieguy. He added me on Skype and willingly handed over all of his PayPal account details s31.postimg.org/3vdsv7a0r/proof1.jpg . It is important to note in the directions for the service I explicitly wrote "MAKE A TEMPORARY PASSWORD FOR ME TO USE" for security purposes so his account couldn't be compromised in the future. After assisting him with his PayPal case I never touched the information again until yesterday.

After the Scam Report closed in my favor it was my job to get any lost funds and damages. This is when I logged into his PayPal account and sent myself $150. Now you may be wondering why the amount was $150. Well, to start off he had over $1000 in PayPal credit (s31.postimg.org/jjtolps6j/IMG_1543.jpg) so if I really wanted to I could have withdraw 1k, but I didn't feel that was an appropriate amount. My initial plan was to send myself another $25 (which would equal the $50 because I couldn't chargeback the other $25) and an additional $25 for what I would consider damages by having my server files now out in public. However, pieguy decided to create an alt account (avsterbone2) and publicly post my server files on a thread for everyone to use. This added to the damages so now I felt an additional $100 was owed to me because now there being publicly leaked to anyone who wanted them. So it was $25 for the other half of the $50, $25 in initial damages and $100 for posting them for anyone to use. I then proceeded to send myself $150 from pieguy's PayPal.

Misunderstandings

I know last night I was parading around MCM claiming I hacked into pieguy's PayPal, but that is simply not the case. It just sounded better than what I typed above. I was very wrong to brag about something that wasn't technically true. I also offered to send other people money, but again I was never serious about that and was just caught up in the moment. I apologize for that and never actually sent anyone money.

Who's at Fault for What

M6Gaming - He never questioned me about what I meant by damages and because of that I believed that since I declared it in the Scam Report I could go after what I believed was mine.

pieguy - He willingly gave me his account information and even after me explicitly telling him to make a temporary password he didn't which allowed me to do what I was able to do.

Me - I should not have broadcasted to everyone I had access to pieguy's PayPal and kept it secret and just did what I needed to do. I also lied, saying I "hacked" his PayPal and that I would send free money to people.

Alternative Option

In case you still feel I am in the wrong, pieguy offered me a deal in exchange to retract his Scam Report leading me to be unbanned shown here chatformat.com/YVw4A6ed/ . He wants access to his PayPal account back and the $150 back. He claimed his PayPal is limited, but that isn't true as I just logged into it and there are no issues. I then proceeded to add Coco, rocket & baum to a Skype group where these messages were exchanged chatformat.com/0eKZalVN/ . I would be more than willing to accept this offer in exchange for my unban.

BeBosny - Mc-Market has been my world for the past year. I love this community and the people in it. Your site has provided me with so much opportunity from financial to friendships and although I may make a few stupid choices leading to tempbans it was never my intention to be banned for Scamming $150. I believe what I did was justified and hopefully after reading my appeal you see this whole thing is a big misunderstanding. It is now up to you to decide whether you unban me based off of my explanation, the deal I will enter with pieguy or just keep me banned.

I hope you consider my appeal after reading everything. Thank You.
 
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Noone cares. This is over with. Just fuck off
 

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What is to discuss tho? Pie opened a scam report against Avi for something he had already confirmed he did, which is illegal and against this site TOS. They can talk compensation or solutions somewhere else, because neither should be unbanned, as they did both scam eachother.
 

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So, I'm only relaying information I can confirm, I cannot ensure that this is 100% accurate.

Now, a note for the staff: Deleting this will only prove my point, that you are too inconsiderate to even have a fair Scam Report, or resolution.

avsterbone_TEMP2 was banned for "Compromising a PayPal account". He was recently scammed by a [now banned] member by the name of pieguy for $50 "+ damages", since it is alleged that pieguy was using the files for personal profit and releasing them to others. Now, reportely pieguy used avsterbone's dispute service in the past, but didn't reset his PayPal password (like instructed to do so). Avsterbone logged in and sent himself $150.00. Now, pieguy made an alt to create a Scam Report (http://www.mc-market.org/threads/123085/). The only issue is - M6Gaming didn't give the two a chance to resolve it, he simply threw the ban hammer. That in itself is total crap. Now, as far as I am concerned, both Avi and pieguy have reached a solution, but only want to go through with it if Ajdin unbans Avi. As Ajdin always does (this is part of the double standard he has) says that pieguy might as well just call PayPal and file fraud cases. Why in the hell can't the two resolve it here? After all, I thought that's what a Scam Report is for. If all Scam Reports were like this, I'd of made fake stuff up and had members I dislike banned!

The whole thing I think is fair: Open the Scam Report back up and let them resolve it. After all, a resolved Scam Report is better than a member getting banned, and a fraud case opened up.


If you go on http://www.mc-market.org/members/44669/ and Look in the button and see what avsterbone said, He said He is willing to give the money back if M6Gaming Wants him to.
 

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What is to discuss tho? Pie opened a scam report against Avi for something he had already confirmed he did, which is illegal and against this site TOS. They can talk compensation or solutions somewhere else, because neither should be unbanned, as they did both scam eachother.
But a Scam Report is supposed to the the place to resolve the issues, but Avi was not given a fair chance to.
 
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But a Scam Report is supposed to the the place to resolve the issues, but Avi was not given a fair chance to.
Avi knows the rules, and he even stated before the report was made that "it would suck if he got banned from this" in the chat.
He stole 100 bucks from a guy, and anybody with abit of a brain knows that it is a scam, not "a eye for a eye".

You guys wouldnt bat a eye if this happend to someone that wasnt well-known, so all I see is people throwing favoritisme around to protect a scammer.
 

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! DAD WAS BANNED! JUST LIKE THE OTHER DAD! (TULIP) :cry:
 

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Avi knows the rules, and he even stated before the report was made that "it would suck if he got banned from this" in the chat.
He stole 100 bucks from a guy, and anybody with abit of a brain knows that it is a scam, not "a eye for a eye".

You guys wouldnt bat a eye if this happend to someone that wasnt well-known, so all I see is people throwing favoritisme around to protect a scammer.
And that's exactly what a Scam Report is for. A Scam Report is so both parties can reach an agreement to avoid being banned.
 
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avsterbone has granted me permission to post his appeal, which can be found below:
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Before you read my appeal I ask you clear your head of all negative thoughts and read with an open/neutral mind. Thank You.

The Scam Report

First let's start with my Scam Report on pieguy (mc-market.org/threads/122944/). In summary, he was hired to do work on the server in exchange for $50. However, he ended up leaking those files causing damages to my server. In that Scam Report it is important to note the amount scammed. I didn't just put "$50" I put "$50 + damages" and I did that for a reason. After the scam report was closed in my favor that then gave me the license to attempt to get any lost funds back. Although this suggestion was declined, accordingly to your beliefs BeBosny you feel the Scam Report should be closed be any attempt to regain lost funds is made (mc-market.org/threads/105297/). By the end of the day the Scam Report closed in my favor and now it was up to me to attempt to get back my lost funds. I sent 2 payments to him. Half upfront as G&S and half at the end as F&F. I immediately chargebacked the $25 I sent as G&S and won. However, I still needed to get the other $25 back plus damages. It is important to note that even though I never declared what the "damages" were M6gaming never objected to them so that made me believe I had the licence to do what I did.

How I Gained Access to his PayPal

In order for you to understand how I got access to pieguy's PayPal we have to go back to this thread (mc-market.org/threads/101822/). For those who don't know I am known for never loosing a PayPal chargeback so I capitalized on that skill by launching this service. In this service I required users provide me with sensitive information so I can access their PayPal and attempt to chargeback on their behalf. I had many customers throughout this and one of them was pieguy. He added me on Skype and willingly handed over all of his PayPal account details s31.postimg.org/3vdsv7a0r/proof1.jpg . It is important to note in the directions for the service I explicitly wrote "MAKE A TEMPORARY PASSWORD FOR ME TO USE" for security purposes so his account couldn't be compromised in the future. After assisting him with his PayPal case I never touched the information again until yesterday.

After the Scam Report closed in my favor it was my job to get any lost funds and damages. This is when I logged into his PayPal account and sent myself $150. Now you may be wondering why the amount was $150. Well, to start off he had over $1000 in PayPal credit (s31.postimg.org/jjtolps6j/IMG_1543.jpg) so if I really wanted to I could have withdraw 1k, but I didn't feel that was an appropriate amount. My initial plan was to send myself another $25 (which would equal the $50 because I couldn't chargeback the other $25) and an additional $25 for what I would consider damages by having my server files now out in public. However, pieguy decided to create an alt account (@avsterbone2) and publicly post my server files on a thread for everyone to use. This added to the damages so now I felt an additional $100 was owed to me because now there being publicly leaked to anyone who wanted them. So it was $25 for the other half of the $50, $25 in initial damages and $100 for posting them for anyone to use. I then proceeded to send myself $150 from pieguy's PayPal.

Misunderstandings

I know last night I was parading around MCM claiming I hacked into pieguy's PayPal, but that is simply not the case. It just sounded better than what I typed above. I was very wrong to brag about something that wasn't technically true. I also offered to send other people money, but again I was never serious about that and was just caught up in the moment. I apologize for that and never actually sent anyone money.

Who's at Fault for What

@M6gaming - He never questioned me about what I meant by damages and because of that I believed that since I declared it in the Scam Report I could go after what I believed was mine.

@pieguy - He willingly gave me his account information and even after me explicitly telling him to make a temporary password he didn't which allowed me to do what I was able to do.

Me - I should not have broadcasted to everyone I had access to pieguy's PayPal and kept it secret and just did what I needed to do. I also lied, saying I "hacked" his PayPal and that I would send free money to people.

Alternative Option

In case you still feel I am in the wrong, pieguy offered me a deal in exchange to retract his Scam Report leading me to be unbanned shown here https://chatformat.com/YVw4A6ed/ . He wants access to his PayPal account back and the $150 back. He claimed his PayPal is limited, but that isn't true as I just logged into it and there are no issues. I then proceeded to add Coco, rocket & baum to a Skype group where these messages were exchanged https://chatformat.com/0eKZalVN/ . I would be more than willing to accept this offer in exchange for my unban.

@BeBosny - Mc-Market has been my world for the past year. I love this community and the people in it. Your site has provided me with so much opportunity from financial to friendships and although I may make a few stupid choices leading to tempbans it was never my intention to be banned for Scamming $150. I believe what I did was justified and hopefully after reading my appeal you see this whole thing is a big misunderstanding. It is now up to you to decide whether you unban me based off of my explanation, the dealI will enter with pieguy or just keep me banned.

I hope you consider my appeal after reading everything. Thank You.
 

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avsterbone has granted me permission to post his appeal, which can be found below:
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Before you read my appeal I ask you clear your head of all negative thoughts and read with an open/neutral mind. Thank You.

The Scam Report

First let's start with my Scam Report on pieguy (mc-market.org/threads/122944/). In summary, he was hired to do work on the server in exchange for $50. However, he ended up leaking those files causing damages to my server. In that Scam Report it is important to note the amount scammed. I didn't just put "$50" I put "$50 + damages" and I did that for a reason. After the scam report was closed in my favor that then gave me the license to attempt to get any lost funds back. Although this suggestion was declined, accordingly to your beliefs BeBosny you feel the Scam Report should be closed be any attempt to regain lost funds is made (mc-market.org/threads/105297/). By the end of the day the Scam Report closed in my favor and now it was up to me to attempt to get back my lost funds. I sent 2 payments to him. Half upfront as G&S and half at the end as F&F. I immediately chargebacked the $25 I sent as G&S and won. However, I still needed to get the other $25 back plus damages. It is important to note that even though I never declared what the "damages" were M6gaming never objected to them so that made me believe I had the licence to do what I did.

How I Gained Access to his PayPal

In order for you to understand how I got access to pieguy's PayPal we have to go back to this thread (mc-market.org/threads/101822/). For those who don't know I am known for never loosing a PayPal chargeback so I capitalized on that skill by launching this service. In this service I required users provide me with sensitive information so I can access their PayPal and attempt to chargeback on their behalf. I had many customers throughout this and one of them was pieguy. He added me on Skype and willingly handed over all of his PayPal account details s31.postimg.org/3vdsv7a0r/proof1.jpg . It is important to note in the directions for the service I explicitly wrote "MAKE A TEMPORARY PASSWORD FOR ME TO USE" for security purposes so his account couldn't be compromised in the future. After assisting him with his PayPal case I never touched the information again until yesterday.

After the Scam Report closed in my favor it was my job to get any lost funds and damages. This is when I logged into his PayPal account and sent myself $150. Now you may be wondering why the amount was $150. Well, to start off he had over $1000 in PayPal credit (s31.postimg.org/jjtolps6j/IMG_1543.jpg) so if I really wanted to I could have withdraw 1k, but I didn't feel that was an appropriate amount. My initial plan was to send myself another $25 (which would equal the $50 because I couldn't chargeback the other $25) and an additional $25 for what I would consider damages by having my server files now out in public. However, pieguy decided to create an alt account (@avsterbone2) and publicly post my server files on a thread for everyone to use. This added to the damages so now I felt an additional $100 was owed to me because now there being publicly leaked to anyone who wanted them. So it was $25 for the other half of the $50, $25 in initial damages and $100 for posting them for anyone to use. I then proceeded to send myself $150 from pieguy's PayPal.

Misunderstandings

I know last night I was parading around MCM claiming I hacked into pieguy's PayPal, but that is simply not the case. It just sounded better than what I typed above. I was very wrong to brag about something that wasn't technically true. I also offered to send other people money, but again I was never serious about that and was just caught up in the moment. I apologize for that and never actually sent anyone money.

Who's at Fault for What

@M6gaming - He never questioned me about what I meant by damages and because of that I believed that since I declared it in the Scam Report I could go after what I believed was mine.

@pieguy - He willingly gave me his account information and even after me explicitly telling him to make a temporary password he didn't which allowed me to do what I was able to do.

Me - I should not have broadcasted to everyone I had access to pieguy's PayPal and kept it secret and just did what I needed to do. I also lied, saying I "hacked" his PayPal and that I would send free money to people.

Alternative Option

In case you still feel I am in the wrong, pieguy offered me a deal in exchange to retract his Scam Report leading me to be unbanned shown here https://chatformat.com/YVw4A6ed/ . He wants access to his PayPal account back and the $150 back. He claimed his PayPal is limited, but that isn't true as I just logged into it and there are no issues. I then proceeded to add Coco, rocket & baum to a Skype group where these messages were exchanged https://chatformat.com/0eKZalVN/ . I would be more than willing to accept this offer in exchange for my unban.

@BeBosny - Mc-Market has been my world for the past year. I love this community and the people in it. Your site has provided me with so much opportunity from financial to friendships and although I may make a few stupid choices leading to tempbans it was never my intention to be banned for Scamming $150. I believe what I did was justified and hopefully after reading my appeal you see this whole thing is a big misunderstanding. It is now up to you to decide whether you unban me based off of my explanation, the dealI will enter with pieguy or just keep me banned.

I hope you consider my appeal after reading everything. Thank You.
Staff won't give a shit, Ajdin Didn't even like him ;-;[DOUBLEPOST=1470257912][/DOUBLEPOST]
Tulip does not care if he's banned. I spoken to him on a server. He was quitting anyways.
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I think the scam report should be opened and Avster should be able to resolve this, he said he's willing to pay back the 150 if m6 wants him to, he should, because this whole thing could just be resolved
 

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all he did was cause trouble. #keepavsterbonebanned

You say all he did was "Cause Trouble" but He also Loaned a Bunch of money to people who need it, Also Setup a Scam fund to help people who got scammed and he did a lot more stuff.
 

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I think the scam report should be opened and Avster should be able to resolve this, he said he's willing to pay back the 150 if m6 wants him to, he should, because this whole thing could just be resolved
Ikr, Lets just tag m6gaming as many times as we can
 
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