This is total bullshit.

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Whilst this may be of some annoyance to yourself, rule 1.8 states the following:

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 1.8 Do not post content which is extremely low in quality, irrelevant, redundant, unnecessary, or meaningless. (e.g: “Looks nice, GLWS”, “Vouch, bought an {item}”)

Your customers could react with a “Winner”’ reaction, and/or leave you positive reputation with a description. I’m also of the opinion that the alternative methods stated above are more beneficial to you and your business/product/service as well.
If you stand by this, why don't you go through your own reputation? There is enough there to dispute and remove! I just counted 5 that are eligible for disputing.

Or we could go and report every single vouch on every thread out there? If they are all breaking the rules...
 
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Banned forever. Reason: Scamming (https://builtbybit.com/threads/cam-v-bugless-transaction-dispute.671198/)

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Ok I'm mad at the staff on MC-Market, time to share some things :)

I was actually one of the people who had their posts on Cam's Bot Development thread deleted and received warning points for it.

And now for how I responded to that.

https://gyazo.com/aefcebd3aa4769f183eb4cc4ad346f0f (Staff warned me for the wrong thing initially Idiots/Poo Heads)
https://gyazo.com/5158bbe3bcea78193c6888ffa43bc1f9
https://gyazo.com/30965c5d6ab6ec977c036c6ff47113a8
https://gyazo.com/1b3988edd3dc51190b782dfdc70c3f84
https://gyazo.com/c9afa58cbcf4b892c164c90e919050a8
https://gyazo.com/c71960d6bacb312eb344a46af6fa9890
https://gyazo.com/ff2228cefaa4484b46628784187cee28

Energy was the one who initially warned me. And I'm tagging him so he can see how this entire thread is purely people that disagree with MC-Market Rule 1.8 in every way.
 

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Ok I'm mad at the staff on MC-Market, time to share some things :)

I was actually one of the people who had their posts on Cam's Bot Development thread deleted and received warning points for it.

And now for how I responded to that.

https://gyazo.com/aefcebd3aa4769f183eb4cc4ad346f0f (Staff warned me for the wrong thing initially Idiots/Poo Heads)
https://gyazo.com/5158bbe3bcea78193c6888ffa43bc1f9
https://gyazo.com/30965c5d6ab6ec977c036c6ff47113a8
https://gyazo.com/1b3988edd3dc51190b782dfdc70c3f84
https://gyazo.com/c9afa58cbcf4b892c164c90e919050a8
https://gyazo.com/c71960d6bacb312eb344a46af6fa9890
https://gyazo.com/ff2228cefaa4484b46628784187cee28

Energy was the one who initially warned me. And I'm tagging him so he can see how this entire thread is purely people that disagree with MC-Market Rule 1.8 in every way.

After you state your case, he doesn’t even tell you why it broke that rule, just that “it should be added as a reputation” which makes no sense, since vouching on threads is allowed.
 
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More MCM staff being shit and not explaining their actions then hiding behind rules when they realize their mistake!!

> users trying to give insightful remarks about the quality of a user get warned for giving insightful remarks
> Rule is unjust and negatively impacts the sales that a developer gets
> staff says "welp its in the rules"
> "but the rules are flawed"
> "welp its in the rules"
> "but this particular rule has an issue as it is ambiguous as fuck"
> "MaKe A sUgGEstiOn"
> suggestion gets 20 agrees
> all staff disagree reaction after an admin makes an argument on the thread which has been refuted if they could be fucked to read the rest of the thread.
> denied

Start the cycle again!
 

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My boy Tofty taking all the Ls so other staff dont have to
 

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I have a thread advertising my Discord Bot Development services in the Development forum (it's sticky) and yesterday, a lot of the users who had vouched for me on my thread DMed me on Discord telling me that their vouches were removed due to 'low quality/meaningless post".

What in the actual fuck? If this is a rule, how come it was enforced only on my thread? If a user had reported my posts deliberately (idek why because I haven't been here long enough to make enemies) what's the point in removing the posts only on my thread? How about the COUNTLESS other threads with vouches on them? What makes a vouch "meaningless" in any way?

Can I go around reporting every single vouch or meaningless post under 1.8? Clearly it seems like I can.
Vouch
 

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Mcm is actually going downhill, I was banned from Shoutbox for A MONTH because I advertised twice in a 20 minute period and it was only my third offense I asked the moderator if it was possible to reduce it and he said he doesn't want to he also said it was my 5th offense when it was only my 3rd, the staff that they're bringing in are terrible and the new rules are just unnecessary, this is why you can see MORE and MORE Exit scammer nowadays :/ I hope mcm realizes this and actually listens to the community for once
 

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This has not happened to me but this is ridiculous. "Vouch" is something to let people know your service was good and useful. I usually don't like clicking through peoples profile just to scroll through some more rep and look for something as a vouch for this small service. MCM staff are being way to strict not allowing a vouch...
 

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Yeh! 100% this site is going downhill. MCM would be literally nothing without the users here, there have been numerous reports against staff members abusing their authority and at this point is getting out of hand. I had a feedback thread removed without my discretion didn't get warning points or a message why it was removed it was just gone. I say we all just go on strike.

The only way to make a difference would be if:

  • Everyone uses adblock, potentially including guests as well (for adsense ads)
  • Everyone stops buying account upgrades
  • Everyone stops buying MCM ads/stickies
  • Everyone stops spending money on other purchases from MCM
Currently, users acknowledge problems, but continue spending money on the site and using it because there’s no comparable alternative and people want to make some money still. If running the forum brings in no profit, but rather negatives, it’d be a matter of losing money and having to close eventually or making changes to regain revenue.
 

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The only way to make a difference would be if:

  • Everyone uses adblock, potentially including guests as well (for adsense ads)
  • Everyone stops buying account upgrades
  • Everyone stops buying MCM ads/stickies
  • Everyone stops spending money on other purchases from MCM
Currently, users acknowledge problems, but continue spending money on the site and using it because there’s no comparable alternative and people want to make some money still. If running the forum brings in no profit, but rather negatives, it’d be a matter of losing money and having to close eventually or making changes to regain revenue.

Sadly there are too many people willing to just conform to unjust rules because they run a business on here. I don't blame them either, there is no alternative and they bloody well know it as-well. No different to how apple doesn't have to change their phones or do something innovative as they already have their customers in a trap.
 

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Sadly there are too many people willing to just conform to unjust rules because they run a business on here. I don't blame them either, there is no alternative and they bloody well know it as-well. No different to how apple doesn't have to change their phones or do something innovative as they already have their customers in a trap.

Exactly. The only way for what I described to happen would be if everyone made a coordinated effort (unlikely) or if it happened naturally. By naturally, I mean if conditions continue declining to the point where a better place for sales comes about. It's easy to be cocky when you own the most popular place for a certain niche, but there comes a point where such gross negligence ends up in you losing your userbase because they no longer respect/care about the people, but rather a platform and when a better one comes, they move on.
 

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Exactly. The only way for what I described to happen would be if everyone made a coordinated effort (unlikely) or if it happened naturally. By naturally, I mean if conditions continue declining to the point where a better place for sales comes about. It's easy to be cocky when you own the most popular place for a certain niche, but there comes a point where such gross negligence ends up in you losing your userbase because they no longer respect/care about the people, but rather a platform and when a better one comes, they move on.

Sounds like apple's timeline if I'm honest.

Things need to start improving before someone makes an effort for some competition and it creeps up on MCM from behind.
 
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