Thoughts on Trump being impeached?

[Shooting]

The thing is, the Democratic Party fails to rally behind one candidate. They want power (specifically the White House) but they are not willing to compromise for it. The Republican Party got Trump into office primarily because he is just moderate enough (policy-wise) to swing Moderate-Democrat and Independent voters yet the Democratic Party has this fantasy that they will swing Moderate-Republican and Independent voters with hyper-Liberal candidates. Personally, I am not a fan of Trump and would much rather vote for a Moderate on either sides of the isle or even an Independent, though when given the option between Biden, Bernie, Warren, Yang and Trump, I am always going to vote for Trump. He has yet to do any real damage in the White House. As of October 2019, unemployment is at 3.6% (down from 4.9% in 2016). Moreover, in 2016, our GDP saw a growth of just 1.9% followed by 2017-2019 when our GDP has been stayed between 2.1% and 3.1%, higher than it ever got under the Obama administration (no disrespect to Obama- he did raise our GDP from -2.6% in his first year to +2.6% in his third year), and we have made serious progress in combating ISIS in the east. My point is: the Articles of Impeachment passed by House Democrats was merely an attempt to scratch Trump's image going into the 2020 election year. They need some serious help if they actually want to put up a fight against Trump's campaign which, at this point, is armed to the teeth with (compelling) evidence that the Democrats spent his first 4 years in office trying to remove him, which is an "attack" on our right to vote. Trump is able to swing Moderates and the "average" American much easier than Liberal candidates simply due to his ability to generalize the Democrats' attacks on him. He makes it about America's freedoms while the Democrats try to do the same exact thing but do so pretentiously-they have no room to say "Your vote counts" as they have spent 4 years attempting to nullify the 2016 election result. They cannot say "We relate to you, the American people" as they have spent the majority of their adult lives in Washington D.C. taking millions from special interest groups and lobbyists. Not to say Trump or Republicans have not, though I can say wholeheartedly the career politicians in the Democratic field have done it far more than Trump has in only 3 years.

So all in all, the Democrats will never have even a remote remote chance to win the White House with a hyper-Liberal candidate unless they miraculously remove Trump from office in the Senate, which they would need the Republican's to do for them. Except I would bet now it will not happen. Democrats will vote with their fellow Democrats because they wanna keep power from Republicans and Republicans will vote with other Republicans because they want to keep power from Democrats. This country is simply too partisan for it's own good and we will surely see an outsider (Moderate-Independent) elected to the White House within the next two decades. Political parties are a lethal poison to Democracy and if we cannot get back to bipartisanship soon, the United States will just be yet another failed attempt at a Constitutional Democratic-Republic.

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[Rhos]

Hopefully it'll help bring more light to the fact that the President of the US bribed a foreign power then tried to cover it up. It's sad to see McConnell outright saying that he's not going to be a fair juror, but it was expected regardless. What wasn't expected was Pelosi deciding to withhold the articles from the senate until a fair trial was guaranteed. Effectively this means a trial will never happen, resulting in a number of new outcomes:

1. The President will never be acquitted of his crimes.
2. The House has time to investigate further articles of impeachment.
3. In the event that the Senate is flipped but the Presidency is not, they can bring forward the articles and remove him whenever they want.

It's worth mentioning as well that as soon as Trump leaves office he'll be arrested by the Southern District of New York on separate state charges (probably fraud), which cannot be pardoned. We'll see him do whatever he can to stay in office, including attempting to serve a third term due to time wasted in his first. This is of course unconstitutional, but I imagine we're going to see it a lot moving forward.

A common related complaint is that the Democrats are wasting precious time and resources on this when they could be doing something else, and to that I'd say - they are. McConnell has refused to bring even one of the hundreds of bills passed by the House to the Senate floor. This includes bipartisan bills on election reform.

The will of the people is subject to change - in fact the House being flipped means that impeachment itself was the will of the people. I think we'll potentially see more and more people starting to think like this and look for alternatives to Trump, potentially even towards Bernie. There was some not-insignificant overlap between the Bernie and Trump voters in 2016 so I absolutely wouldn't be surprised if this was the case.

 

[ida64]

Trump 2020!

 

[Camilia]

^

Doubt that he'll get kicked out, but it will def hurt him next election.

 

[oretheus]

not going through the senate, he stayin lmao. calm ur balls ppl

 

[croissant222]

ok so they managed to put him in a peach, whats next they gonna put him in an orange??

 

[kayn]

lol trump es stupido

 

[bb]

Bruh, dude just needs to get out of the peach!