Note that I have already made a scam report on this user that is waiting to be accepted, this is used as a deterrent for anyone that is doing business with him currently to back up and get your money back ASAP.
I came to him asking for bitcoin, the final agreed amount was $37, which I wanted to send over G&S because he gave me his paypal address before even agreeing anything, which to me seemed fishy.
I then send him the money over G&S, however he refuses this instantly, refunding my money, leaving it pending (thanks for that btw), we then go back and forth arguing, I agree to send over F&F in the end as I am desperate.
Now he then gives me an excuse, claiming that coinbase wants a confirmation code for his phone that is "broken" (see spoiler).
After 3 hours of waiting I message him, saying that I want a refund, he said that he will refund me, which he never did, this is the transaction that I made towards him on paypal that is yet to be returned.
As you can see there is a refunded amount that is still pending, and then there is a payment that is completed, which he claims here that he refunded.
I wake up this morning and check, he hasn't refunded.
So I send him a message about it all, I then see that another user (Threat) has accused him of taking $40 too, so I open chargebacks on all of the payments I sent to him (including the one he had refunded, which I see now was wrong).
Look at these messages of him trying to turn the situation around on me, claiming that I am the one scamming him because I opened up both chargebacks.
I then ask for proof of him refunding my $37 which he refuses to do.
He is now claiming that he has called paypal and explained the situation, however the claim is still awaiting his feedback so he is lying.
I even cancelled one of the chargebacks on the G&S payment, for him to then return the F&F payment, however he turned hostile and is accusing me of scamming, and is not giving me my money back.
He says that he's leaving it to paypal, because he wants to win the dispute and get his money, he has not called paypal and it looks like he is just trying to get a bit of money before he leaves the site.
It takes him two seconds to hit the "refund" button on that payment and sort this out but he won't, it is obvious that he is scamming and I just want to stop anyone from doing any sort of deal with him.
Also Threat here is a message of him claiming that you were scammed by an impersonator:
Netflix do me a favor and take two minutes out of your day to refund my payment, also removing that false negative rep on my profile would be a good addition, however it will be removed anyways as it is false.
This thread is a warning to stop anyone from doing business with this user before mine or Threat's scam report is complete, and serves the purpose to stop other users from losing out on money like I have too.
UPDATE: 07/06/2017
Like Overlord said, my bank, HSBC has confirmed that I am able to open up a chargeback on this situation, I have explained to them the evidence that I have, along with the personal ties such as his facebook that I have found, including his address that was on his PP.
I will in fact receive my money and Overlord was correct, as he is from the UK it will be a £25 extra fee on his part in order to complete this, completely free of charge for me.
The scam section at HSBC opens at 9:00AM tomorrow, I will be opening a report, giving them his personal information, such as address, name, paypal info, and the whole situation, a very nice employee called Carla at HSBC has saved all the details I have currently given them ready for tomorrow morning.
I have also found that he is under 18, so his parents may be taking this one on, which is unfair on their part however I don't feel like giving up my hard earned money.
Nevertheless this will be sorted out one way or another, thank you so much to Overlord for giving me information on chargebacks through banks, this has not only opened up an opportunity for me to get my money back, but also teach him a lesson about stealing.
HSBC's scam section will also give his details over to his local authority (which I will not name here for obvious reasons), from there we will go!
The user has been PMd with even more information about this situation with the final opportunity to rectify himself, thank you for the support guys and it looks like this situation will be sorted after all!
UPDATE: 08/06/2017 - Check my most recent post on page 3 for the final update to the situation, HSBC are taking my case on and I got all my money back.
I came to him asking for bitcoin, the final agreed amount was $37, which I wanted to send over G&S because he gave me his paypal address before even agreeing anything, which to me seemed fishy.
I then send him the money over G&S, however he refuses this instantly, refunding my money, leaving it pending (thanks for that btw), we then go back and forth arguing, I agree to send over F&F in the end as I am desperate.
Now he then gives me an excuse, claiming that coinbase wants a confirmation code for his phone that is "broken" (see spoiler).
After 3 hours of waiting I message him, saying that I want a refund, he said that he will refund me, which he never did, this is the transaction that I made towards him on paypal that is yet to be returned.
As you can see there is a refunded amount that is still pending, and then there is a payment that is completed, which he claims here that he refunded.
I wake up this morning and check, he hasn't refunded.
So I send him a message about it all, I then see that another user (Threat) has accused him of taking $40 too, so I open chargebacks on all of the payments I sent to him (including the one he had refunded, which I see now was wrong).
Look at these messages of him trying to turn the situation around on me, claiming that I am the one scamming him because I opened up both chargebacks.
I then ask for proof of him refunding my $37 which he refuses to do.
He is now claiming that he has called paypal and explained the situation, however the claim is still awaiting his feedback so he is lying.
I even cancelled one of the chargebacks on the G&S payment, for him to then return the F&F payment, however he turned hostile and is accusing me of scamming, and is not giving me my money back.
He says that he's leaving it to paypal, because he wants to win the dispute and get his money, he has not called paypal and it looks like he is just trying to get a bit of money before he leaves the site.
It takes him two seconds to hit the "refund" button on that payment and sort this out but he won't, it is obvious that he is scamming and I just want to stop anyone from doing any sort of deal with him.
Also Threat here is a message of him claiming that you were scammed by an impersonator:
Netflix do me a favor and take two minutes out of your day to refund my payment, also removing that false negative rep on my profile would be a good addition, however it will be removed anyways as it is false.
This thread is a warning to stop anyone from doing business with this user before mine or Threat's scam report is complete, and serves the purpose to stop other users from losing out on money like I have too.
UPDATE: 07/06/2017
Like Overlord said, my bank, HSBC has confirmed that I am able to open up a chargeback on this situation, I have explained to them the evidence that I have, along with the personal ties such as his facebook that I have found, including his address that was on his PP.
I will in fact receive my money and Overlord was correct, as he is from the UK it will be a £25 extra fee on his part in order to complete this, completely free of charge for me.
The scam section at HSBC opens at 9:00AM tomorrow, I will be opening a report, giving them his personal information, such as address, name, paypal info, and the whole situation, a very nice employee called Carla at HSBC has saved all the details I have currently given them ready for tomorrow morning.
I have also found that he is under 18, so his parents may be taking this one on, which is unfair on their part however I don't feel like giving up my hard earned money.
Nevertheless this will be sorted out one way or another, thank you so much to Overlord for giving me information on chargebacks through banks, this has not only opened up an opportunity for me to get my money back, but also teach him a lesson about stealing.
HSBC's scam section will also give his details over to his local authority (which I will not name here for obvious reasons), from there we will go!
The user has been PMd with even more information about this situation with the final opportunity to rectify himself, thank you for the support guys and it looks like this situation will be sorted after all!
UPDATE: 08/06/2017 - Check my most recent post on page 3 for the final update to the situation, HSBC are taking my case on and I got all my money back.
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Banned forever. Reason: Scamming (https://builtbybit.com/threads/mat-scam-report.348573/)
