What phone do you have
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It's a myth that Apple is still as secure as it used to be. The only reason why they are more secure is because of how limited you are. You can only install stuff from the appstore etc.an extremely smart choice
eyyy, from a button to no button xD
so nothing?
facts, iphones for the win
upgrade do iphone pleaseeeeeeeeeee
ooh? is it lagging at all?
iPhone XR is a good budget phone
90hz is the only good thing... iphone's better in every other way
lol even nokia is better than samsung. pls change to iphone
im proud of you son :tup:
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they are worth it. the software and security makes it worth it 100%
Also, the higher price is not worth it. My phone is 2 years old and still works perfectly fine, sure a better battery would be appreciated but it does every task I give it fast and reliable. Don't really see the value in spending 1k+ for a new phone.
galaxy j8
Nokia button phone, a.k.a floor breaker 
Only came out a few months ago. Has the newest chip that the 11 has, but in the body of a 6. Not that old!
you dont need any other apps than the ones from app store tbh.
upGrade!!11!1
Nokia button phone, a.k.a floor breaker
the only phone that i allow others to have other than iphone (im jk btw idc what people have lol)
my g my g
i mean the display is super small
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o/
galaxy j8 best phone because its old
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no
u know i had once android phone [dont remember which] and my friend pushed me it in to a turtle river :/
bro its best phone ever galaxy j8
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what phone then?no
iphone x or newer
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im not iphone dude ;-;
Where did I indicate that Apple is a ripoff? I don't think that I've said it?[DOUBLEPOST=1600863638][/DOUBLEPOST]
That's true, but still that comes to personal preference, because even with all the things you've named the price is still BIASed and is NOT worth it...
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Let me just clear up some things that I've seen by the feedback on my thread. I can't seem to edit it anymore, so I'm just writing a new post to update some stuff that people have said.
Let's talk about their ecosystem.
I do agree with what Kram said, they have a pretty good and well established ecosystem. I do like it, and if you think it's worth the price, sure, go and buy it. But still (i am talking objectively, subjectively anything can be the best, so that doesn't matter in this case) it's not worth the price. Yeah, you are getting a good ecosystem, but the problem is, that the iOS is kinda outdated. Many features are lacking, and sure, it's more stable, but it's really really limited. It only feels secure (It is, but not in the way most people think) since you are limited to the apps by App Store, while on Androids you have FULL control over your OS on your phone.
Now, I didn't fail to name a good reason as to why iPhone could be good, since I could name more reasons why some Android phone would be better. I wanted to talk objectively, so that's what I'll keep doing in this discussion.
iPhone sure is good, never said it wasn't. Myself, I've talked good things about iPhone in life, the only problem is that it's not worth it. They are not listening to their fans, just doing things they think is good, calling something innovative after being late is just not the ideal thing they can do.
Yeah, it's all personal preference, I do agree with that, never said I didn't. Looking objectively at the situation, you can see that iPhone doesn't seem to be worth the price you're paying.
Talking about the software and security that Slipe said, it's not worth it. You're paying a lot more than you're getting, which if you've bought some androids wouldn't be the case. With androids you can customize them by your will, so you can make a phone look pretty neat and modern without doing much work, but some work is still done.
I can see that Lexxonist agreed with me, you said that it's just for flex. I agree with that, but the problem is, that I can safely say that more than 10% of people that have iPhone think that way is just wrong. Okay sure, you can flex, I don't care, but if you flex, don't bring up straight up false information about the product, since we both know that you've bough it only to flex to your friends with better quality phones for $700.
Might've screwed some things up, currently sick, 11th day, so I might edit this later and actually give proper arguments.[DOUBLEPOST=1600867066][/DOUBLEPOST]To be completely honest, Apple can take the spotlight to be the best phone company IN THE WORLD if they take their chance that they are given, which is the timeline that's happening right now. It's no secret that Android world is a little bit in some problems as of right now.
For example, Huawei and Google, currently talking about making a completely new OS that isn't based on Android.
Another example would be Samsung, with their processors. The reason being, as stated in my previous post(s) that they are putting worse processors in some markets.
This could be an amazing opportunity for Apple to make a phone, that would beat all Android phones, basically to death.
Will this happen though? - Nope, it won't ever happen since, we're talking about Apple.
Let's bring our imagination and think how the iPhones would look if Apple actually listened to it's customers so the phone would actually be good, like actually good.
I'll be talking about some things that Apple "should" change to make their phones a lot better and gain a lot more customers.
1. The Price
Okay, this one is something anyone could've predicted that I would say, especially since I talked about this problem a lot in the first post about this conversation.
You can talk whatever you want, ecosystem, hardware, software, it just ISN'T worth it, no matter what you say. They have gigantic margins and are taking a lot more than they should. They don't want to change it since they want to continue the myth that they are premium and "luxury" brand, and also that they have the best phone quality and that's why they cost so much (not true, that's why it's a myth). You're essentially paying the Apple, nothing more neither nothing less.
2. Hardware
I wouldn't change much about hardware. I think that hardware actually makes iPhone a bit more worth it, but not worth it in the end.
One issue is the optic zoom, just 2x zoom on those cameras is just meh... It should be ATLEAST a 3x zoom. Maybe add an Ultra-Wide one, and one with periscope camera?
Night mode is pretty good actually, impressed me a lot but they have to end that fact you can't do anything on your own. The fact you can't even disable/enable night mode is just funny and weird.
Unlocking the phone itself.
Okay, I like the Face ID, it works beautifully, but of course, since it's Apple it has some minor issues with it aswell. It's just not needed that you have to swipe in some X,Y or Z direction after looking at it, like come on, just let me in my phone when I unlock it, many don't wanna do it.
Also it's lacking the fingerprint.
Like come it, just has has to have a fingerprint option while unlocking the phone.
They can do something like P40 Pro, they have a Fingerprint scanner, a Face ID that also works in daytime and night time and of course unlocks just by looking at it, no extra gestures needed.
But easily, the worst part about hardware in Apple's phones is that they are always, no matter what late with every single update.
Android phones had high refresh rate for a bit of time now, I think we're at like what, 3rd generation of phones with a high refresh rate? Apple is JUST NOW getting that upgrade, and from what I've read it wasn't even their plan to add a 120hz display in iPhone 12 originally, they added it only because they figured out there's no messing around with that stuff.
If that's true, it's just so funny they thought it would be a good idea to release a phone with a 60hz display that you're paying a kidney and a half to get.
They were late with big batteries, with wireless charging and many things aswell.
They shouldn't be scared to try some new features out, it could benefit them.
3. Software! - Okay, you expected me to say something about the iOS itself, don't lie.
Well I could talk a whole day for what could be fixed, but let's not take too much time, since combined my 3 posts are really big and I honestly doubt that more than 3 people actually interested in this topic will read them ever.
(Not sure about what this is called but..) Openness?
Who would want a phone that when you connect it to a PC you can't do anything you want to? Like, you can't do anything you want, and that must be changed quickly.
Customizability.
Okay, Apple wouldn't need a level of customizability that Android has but it feels like kindergarten, just give us some freedom...
In 2020 that you can't put an icon where you like it is just... No words to describe it, shameful and disappointing..
Okay yea, they've added widgets and some other stuff, so they are seeming to be headed in a right direction but I doubt it will take a short period of time for iOS to be like a normal OS and something that would be actually okay.
Notifications.. Okay dude, I might be subjective on this topic, but holy are the notifications bad...
One last thing I wouldn't like is.. Navigation... People want it to be constant and not changeable. I want my back to be just a swipe from right to left, not sometimes from up to down, sometimes diagonal, or whatever there is.
If they would atleast implement 50% of the changes they'd definitely be on a good direction to conquer Android world.
There could be a good argument against this that they want a smaller audience with a phone that costs a kidney and a half and that they want to be premium and stuff, but that's just not true, it's just a myth.
I hope you enjoyed reading this, definitely hit me with some questions or arguments and I will maybe debunk them, who knows?
Let's talk about their ecosystem.
I do agree with what Kram said, they have a pretty good and well established ecosystem. I do like it, and if you think it's worth the price, sure, go and buy it. But still (i am talking objectively, subjectively anything can be the best, so that doesn't matter in this case) it's not worth the price. Yeah, you are getting a good ecosystem, but the problem is, that the iOS is kinda outdated. Many features are lacking, and sure, it's more stable, but it's really really limited. It only feels secure (It is, but not in the way most people think) since you are limited to the apps by App Store, while on Androids you have FULL control over your OS on your phone.
Now, I didn't fail to name a good reason as to why iPhone could be good, since I could name more reasons why some Android phone would be better. I wanted to talk objectively, so that's what I'll keep doing in this discussion.
iPhone sure is good, never said it wasn't. Myself, I've talked good things about iPhone in life, the only problem is that it's not worth it. They are not listening to their fans, just doing things they think is good, calling something innovative after being late is just not the ideal thing they can do.
Yeah, it's all personal preference, I do agree with that, never said I didn't. Looking objectively at the situation, you can see that iPhone doesn't seem to be worth the price you're paying.
Talking about the software and security that Slipe said, it's not worth it. You're paying a lot more than you're getting, which if you've bought some androids wouldn't be the case. With androids you can customize them by your will, so you can make a phone look pretty neat and modern without doing much work, but some work is still done.
I can see that Lexxonist agreed with me, you said that it's just for flex. I agree with that, but the problem is, that I can safely say that more than 10% of people that have iPhone think that way is just wrong. Okay sure, you can flex, I don't care, but if you flex, don't bring up straight up false information about the product, since we both know that you've bough it only to flex to your friends with better quality phones for $700.
Might've screwed some things up, currently sick, 11th day, so I might edit this later and actually give proper arguments.[DOUBLEPOST=1600867066][/DOUBLEPOST]To be completely honest, Apple can take the spotlight to be the best phone company IN THE WORLD if they take their chance that they are given, which is the timeline that's happening right now. It's no secret that Android world is a little bit in some problems as of right now.
For example, Huawei and Google, currently talking about making a completely new OS that isn't based on Android.
Another example would be Samsung, with their processors. The reason being, as stated in my previous post(s) that they are putting worse processors in some markets.
This could be an amazing opportunity for Apple to make a phone, that would beat all Android phones, basically to death.
Will this happen though? - Nope, it won't ever happen since, we're talking about Apple.
Let's bring our imagination and think how the iPhones would look if Apple actually listened to it's customers so the phone would actually be good, like actually good.
I'll be talking about some things that Apple "should" change to make their phones a lot better and gain a lot more customers.
1. The Price
Okay, this one is something anyone could've predicted that I would say, especially since I talked about this problem a lot in the first post about this conversation.
You can talk whatever you want, ecosystem, hardware, software, it just ISN'T worth it, no matter what you say. They have gigantic margins and are taking a lot more than they should. They don't want to change it since they want to continue the myth that they are premium and "luxury" brand, and also that they have the best phone quality and that's why they cost so much (not true, that's why it's a myth). You're essentially paying the Apple, nothing more neither nothing less.
2. Hardware
I wouldn't change much about hardware. I think that hardware actually makes iPhone a bit more worth it, but not worth it in the end.
One issue is the optic zoom, just 2x zoom on those cameras is just meh... It should be ATLEAST a 3x zoom. Maybe add an Ultra-Wide one, and one with periscope camera?
Night mode is pretty good actually, impressed me a lot but they have to end that fact you can't do anything on your own. The fact you can't even disable/enable night mode is just funny and weird.
Unlocking the phone itself.
Okay, I like the Face ID, it works beautifully, but of course, since it's Apple it has some minor issues with it aswell. It's just not needed that you have to swipe in some X,Y or Z direction after looking at it, like come on, just let me in my phone when I unlock it, many don't wanna do it.
Also it's lacking the fingerprint.
Like come it, just has has to have a fingerprint option while unlocking the phone.
They can do something like P40 Pro, they have a Fingerprint scanner, a Face ID that also works in daytime and night time and of course unlocks just by looking at it, no extra gestures needed.
But easily, the worst part about hardware in Apple's phones is that they are always, no matter what late with every single update.
Android phones had high refresh rate for a bit of time now, I think we're at like what, 3rd generation of phones with a high refresh rate? Apple is JUST NOW getting that upgrade, and from what I've read it wasn't even their plan to add a 120hz display in iPhone 12 originally, they added it only because they figured out there's no messing around with that stuff.
If that's true, it's just so funny they thought it would be a good idea to release a phone with a 60hz display that you're paying a kidney and a half to get.
They were late with big batteries, with wireless charging and many things aswell.
They shouldn't be scared to try some new features out, it could benefit them.
3. Software! - Okay, you expected me to say something about the iOS itself, don't lie.
Well I could talk a whole day for what could be fixed, but let's not take too much time, since combined my 3 posts are really big and I honestly doubt that more than 3 people actually interested in this topic will read them ever.
(Not sure about what this is called but..) Openness?
Who would want a phone that when you connect it to a PC you can't do anything you want to? Like, you can't do anything you want, and that must be changed quickly.
Customizability.
Okay, Apple wouldn't need a level of customizability that Android has but it feels like kindergarten, just give us some freedom...
In 2020 that you can't put an icon where you like it is just... No words to describe it, shameful and disappointing..
Okay yea, they've added widgets and some other stuff, so they are seeming to be headed in a right direction but I doubt it will take a short period of time for iOS to be like a normal OS and something that would be actually okay.
Notifications.. Okay dude, I might be subjective on this topic, but holy are the notifications bad...
One last thing I wouldn't like is.. Navigation... People want it to be constant and not changeable. I want my back to be just a swipe from right to left, not sometimes from up to down, sometimes diagonal, or whatever there is.
If they would atleast implement 50% of the changes they'd definitely be on a good direction to conquer Android world.
There could be a good argument against this that they want a smaller audience with a phone that costs a kidney and a half and that they want to be premium and stuff, but that's just not true, it's just a myth.
I hope you enjoyed reading this, definitely hit me with some questions or arguments and I will maybe debunk them, who knows?
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