Abortion Should Be Illegal
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Wait what do you mean by “my guy girls” LOL
There’s ways to prevent it, being with a large group of people that you yourself are close to, if you feel anyway uncomfortable you could always just leave. Girls be killing babies because she wanted to stop mid way, if you’re letting me pipe my ass am I stopping.
No there are no ways to prevent it. Why should a woman be afraid of walking in the streets because a potential scum may rape her? Why should a woman be afraid staying home alone because someone could break in and rape her?.
Abortion is not killing, it is stopping a chemical reaction. Next time you masturbate or use a condom think of all those sperms that could be kids that you just killed.
I see your name fits you perfectly.
I personally believe someone should only get an abortion if it threatens their body or they were raped. But if women want the full right to aborting a child, I believe that men shouldn't be responsible for paying for it if it's born. That would be fair.
That's why I quoted it..? What?Nice Google copy
Proof?
Then what defines a life for you?
Why should someone else get to decide whether or not I should live based on whether or not they think I'd enjoy life?
Male birth control is being developed. As for risk of dying, I've already said I'd support an abortion in that case. If they don't have enough money, adoption. And it's not your body, it's another body inside of your body. Proof that tons of children in the US are raped under 14 (and that that's a decent % of abortions)?
You're confusing adoption and foster care. There are 36 families waiting to adopt for every child put up for adoption.
And this is only in the United States.
People should not be forced to have children for whatever reasons.
A fetus is not considered a child on it's first 10 weeks, it's just a piece of meat without a brain and nerves system. It doesn't even know it's alive.
Why force a mother to give birth to a child she doesn't want, ruin her life, and possibly the child's life to be born to parents who don't want him? That child would thank you for getting rid of him when he was still a piece of meat.
Those religious claims that complain about "killing" a living creature are ridiculous. You are not killing anyone with abortion, you are stopping it's development. It's not alive in the age 10 weeks, hence why you can't kill it. It's a chemical reaction up to this point.
Your testicles hold those "kids" and by masturbating you also "kill" them. By using a condom you also "kill" them. So what's the difference?
I'm an atheist so please don't say I'm making religious arguments.
The difference is that conception is when life starts and unique DNA is formed. Masturbation doesn't cause conception.
Wouldn't people just lie on the test?
That's what laws do. You can't steal from someone even if you think they deserve it.
A sperm is not a kid, conception creates kids. Also, abortion is not just a chemical "reaction", you stick a poll through the brain, drag out the fetus by the head and dismember them.
Wouldn't everyone say they were raped then?
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Don't try to reason with that guy, I'm 99% sure he is just trying to provoke reactions. I don't think any one is that brain dead to seriously believe girls should only walk around in groups else they're gonna get raped. For the unlikely chance he's serious, he's probably just an incel sitting at home all day, frustrated he can't find a girl friend lol.
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It's a woman's right to have an abortion as defined in the Fourth Amendment which gives us a right to privacy--this having been decided in the case of Roe V Wade.
Being the only boy in my intermediate family with a lot of sisters and a lot of female cousins, protecting a woman's right to privacy is imperative. I went through an edgy conservative phase around my freshman year in high school where I said abortion was wrong, but honestly I've learned that as a man it's none of my business. I will never get pregnant, and I will never know what some women have been through or why they chose to have an abortion. It's a sensitive subject and something nobody should stick their nose in.
If anybody actually believes that women should be "more careful" so they don't get raped, you can go fuck yourself. This may be an understandable reason for why you lack an experience in talking to women if you think something so barbaric as that.
tl;dr - Abortion is allowed under the Fourth Amendment. Why a woman chooses to have an abortion is nobody's business but their own.
Being the only boy in my intermediate family with a lot of sisters and a lot of female cousins, protecting a woman's right to privacy is imperative. I went through an edgy conservative phase around my freshman year in high school where I said abortion was wrong, but honestly I've learned that as a man it's none of my business. I will never get pregnant, and I will never know what some women have been through or why they chose to have an abortion. It's a sensitive subject and something nobody should stick their nose in.
If anybody actually believes that women should be "more careful" so they don't get raped, you can go fuck yourself. This may be an understandable reason for why you lack an experience in talking to women if you think something so barbaric as that.
tl;dr - Abortion is allowed under the Fourth Amendment. Why a woman chooses to have an abortion is nobody's business but their own.
You don't "stick a poll through the brain". You stop it with medicine, and it goes out as blood just like any other period.
Roe v Wade is bad constitutional law. The constitution never discusses abortion. As for women being more careful, I've never said that. I do know, however, that abortion for rape is <0.7% of abortion reasons.
That's Plan B which happens before conception. I have no issues with Plan B.
No, the other plan is using a vaccine to pull everything out of the womb. It's not sticking a poll through the brain.
Yet, abortion is still limited and is not always allowed as far as I am concerened. A woman can't decide out of the blue she regrets having a child and decide to abort it. There has to be a logical reason.
Because (adding on to what you replied), it's the parents who are having the baby. The foetus/baby itself isn't exactly going to be able to make their own decision
And also, why should the government have any say in whether the parents/mother wants to keep it or not
And also, why should the government have any say in whether the parents/mother wants to keep it or not
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Well looking in terms of philosophy, life means to be conscious. Being conscious is basically the state of being aware of yourself and your actions/behavior/etc. When you look in the mirror, you can determine that's you. Now imagine the same scenario, but a less intelligent creature (not specifying one) does not recognize itself in the mirror. Humans, and likely some other intelligent creatures are able to understand what they do. This comes from our brains. A baby, simply put a baby who does not have a fully developed brain, would not be able to have a consciousness until 5-6 months in the womb. This would be far after abortions are possible for the woman in this scenario. Without a consciousness, you cannot learn, or think for that matter. Try remembering anything from when you were born or were in the womb. Now I will imagine you cannot, and that is because our brains were not complex enough to store images, especially not that as different as a hospital bed compared to a sack of belly.
Regarding a few more of your points, such as "why should someone else decide if I live and enjoy life...". It might not be at all. Women could be ruining their lives to keep the baby. Even if they work hard, or get help to raise it, there's a high risk of someone in this situation becoming dangerous to the child or making them seem unwanted. Whether this is through child abuse or the child experiencing bullying at school for not having what other kids might, depression and other mental illnesses could affect both parties. Depression in teenagers or other untreated mental illnesses are rising and can affect themselves or even other students at school. This child might even bully other kids, cause them to lose hope, or even inflict the lives of other kids as we see more and more commonly in the news. Simply put, a mother may choose to remove their unborn child while they can to prevent any future pain both literally and metaphorically to more than one person, including other parents, teachers, students, children, and persons. This is not to say that they can't enjoy life, but that it would be more of a risk and possibly a danger if it is proven the mother cannot raise the kid. On the other hand, adoption can make the child's life much harder as well, as they might not be getting the right education or medical attention. This is often seen in foster care situations and can affect the child's mental health and prevent them from going farther in the future.
Lastly, I saw someone in this comment section who claimed all pills were successful or were extremely close to. Like all things in this world, not everything is perfect. There are aspects that could lower the success rate of birth control, such as hormones, which we cannot prevent. Hormones are passed through genetics and often times have no available cure. Why? Because not every medical situation is tendered to the needs of a single human being. Some of you may have experienced this if you go to the doctor with an illness, and they have to run several tests just to figure out what the issue is. Since an illness is widespread, this would likely be much easier than dealing with how said person's hormones work and then creating an entirely new cure just so they don't have to have a baby. It is incredibly likely that if you were in this scenario, that you wouldn't know why your birth control pills aren't working. The side effects of a failed birth control pill aren't just pregnancy though. It can result in extended bleeding, which can be from the unborn child. So if you don't want a fetus to "die" in a much faster way, why isn't there an argument on the cons of birth control or the issues surrounding failed attempts? There simply isn't enough research for women and their safety.
My entire point was that it's none of our business why women choose to have an abortion. Allow me to be a hypocrite and quote the people I despise:
"THIS IS AMERICA. WOMEN HAVE A RIGHT TO AN ABORTION. DON'T LIKE IT? LEAVE THIS COUNTRY SNOWFLAKE!!!!"
lmao.
So do we kill people in Coma's? They're not 'conscious'.
No, of course not. Because it's Murder.
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Absolutely not. First of all, the Earth does not have a 'population problem'.
The Earth isn't running out of resources any time soon, regardless of what you believe.
Secondly, population curbs itself, the wealthier the family, the more likely they will have less kids. Which in case you weren't aware, the world in general is getting wealthier extremely quickly.
Thirdly, this argument is irrelevant. In the numbers sense. One million a year less people is absolutely nothing.
Which by the way, even if we did have a population problem. You don't go around killing people. This isn't nazi germany. We don't just go killing people because they suck up resources.
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