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Hi,

First of all, this is a thread which states my personal opinion. The outcome of the poll is just to give us an idea. I promise in no way that what gets voted the most will actually happen. Mick and tjrgg are sleeping so I thought I'd pick up some opinions so we can take actions fast.

As most of you know, Mojang has been locking a lot of accounts lately. Many people just lost access to their accounts and have no way to recover them.

Let me give my personal opinion on the entire account selling thing and after that I'll address some (possible) solutions. IMO there's no real solution to this.

I personally find the entire business toxic. It's not moral, most likely not legal and just a stupid thing. You steal someone's account, sell it and make your pocket money with that? Yeah, that just sounds terrible. Let's also not mention it's a very unstable business in many ways. Locking accounts, People TID'ing their accounts back, and the list just goes on and on. When I became admin back in August, I told the previous owner the same thing and I was honestly thinking "Removing the sale of accounts could actually make the forum less toxic and less of a scam paradise". Many months after that thought, I can confirm it 100%. I went through many threads, scam reports and sections and I believe removing the account section would be one of the best moves for the future of MC-Market.

Another that's worth mentioning, Scam reports. I don't see any possible solution to the countless chargebacks that will occur. So I highly doubt we could providing further support on scam reports regarding account sales.

So, what solutions do I see:
  • The most logical and most effective would be to disallow the sale of accounts on the entire forum completely. We can't do something like "remove the sections but allow sale of it". We either allow it, or not at all. Reason behind this is scam reports. Now you might say, "Allow the sale of accounts but don't provide support on scam reports." - We can't do that. If someone scams by selling accounts, we'd have a scammer on the forum, everyone would be calling him a scammer while it can't be resolved via a scam report.
  • Ignore the entire situation and continue the sale of accounts. - I really can't see this happening. I just can't...
Suggest anything as I'm completely out of ideas. I'll add anything reasonable to the list and poll.

As for MCM's future, most people are saying "RIP MCM". I think this is far from true. Sure, sale of accounts is a big thing. Sure, it's bringing a lot of traffic. However, removing it will not make the forum die. I personally have been brainstorming around MCM ever since I've joined the staff team and i've shared some of my secret ideas which could make MCM grow with some people and most of them liked them! However right now, the forum is improving, but accounts are not worth having anymore with these recent events. The amount of reports, scam reports and administration it brings along simply makes it not worth having imo.

I never really showed this much hate against the entire account selling business but I think it's getting really terrible now and I'd personally like to see accounts removed from MC-Market completely.

Vote. If you have anything to say, please don't hesitate to do so.

Keep everything on topic and clean. I'll remove any posts which are irrelevant and don't contribute to the thread. it's a serious thing and should be treated as such.
 
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Or like I said, only TID accounts (you can get these back via support ticket).
And then what? Mojang will remove the ability to get your account back with a TID? I thought you already had to provide more information to get the account back but even if you don't, this is a horrible idea.
 

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That's just plain dumb. This is a market forum, you should simply make a warning that you are not responsible for accounts getting locked/restored/whatever and let people sell their stuff.
 

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And then... You have your account back? If it's your account, you can provide a location.
I am saying that if people start ONLY selling accounts with TIDs, and say the location and everything is included, then they will start to just not refund accounts, or ask for even more proof (credit card information, possibly)
 

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Misc. comment:

I know a lot of people are mad with Mojang for the locking of accounts, and many people are saying that Marc_IRL is to blame, as he is the only member of Mojang who is registered under his own name. Marc has been getting a lot of shit recently, and I just want to tell y'all he isn't the one who's locking our accounts. (But he still works at Shitjang so what can I say.)

P.S. Mojang wants money.
 

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I have never seen more of a 12 year old comment. "Mojang wants money.", well they don't need more money and it doesn't concern them. God damn.
I'm saying that they want money, and they do want money, I know they don't need it. I'm just saying they want it. I don't support Shitjang.
 

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Ah okay, so you're saying that they will go through extra measures, even though they get thousands per day. I disagree.
I am saying that, I mean there will be workarounds just like the email migration junk, but I do think that if they are going to stop our marketplace, they will enforce more security.
 

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I was locked out of my main account that I happened to have bought with a TID. Why did mojang do that? -_- geezes, not all accounts that were locked/password resetted were OG or even were for sale. Mojang just nuked tons of accounts.
 

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Account sales won't stop. They'll happen on Skype privately or on actual servers.
Something Mojang doesn't have access to ;) unlike our forum.
 

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True but what if someone scams privately on a server

What if for example Style (srrybbneeded someone as an example) starts scamming other members with accounts he owns on on actual minecraft servers or on skype. Everyone would start calling him out as a scammer but he would remain on the forums. Imo it'd be best to provide the scam report support for account sellers who still wish to continue (i know many are quitting because of this)
Okay. Let's say I listen to you and we do provide support for such cases. How would a scam resolver know a account is being locked or that it has been TID'd.

I honestly highly doubt Mojang is blocking accounts using our forums. Sure, they might be using it as a help tool but I don't think they're legally allowed to trust 3rd party websites when it comes to something serious like accounts.[DOUBLEPOST=1456851542,1456851487][/DOUBLEPOST]
Inb4 Microsoft buy Skype and start spying.
Microsoft already owns skype..
 
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