All warnings should have an expiry.

[Maddy]

As to what Justis has said, I agree that all warnings should have an expiry. To be fair and unbiased, I am not going to go into detail about my specific warnings.

Even if some of the larger ones, that aren't detrimental (like DOX, Reselling a Resource, etc.) should be expireable after 2-3 years time at most. People make dumb mistakes, but that shouldn't result in a permanent ban @ 75 points. (I have 18k Shoutbox messages, you think I won't slip up every once in a while? Violet with 16k can say the same- using this as an example and am not trying to be biased.

Appreciate any feedback on this topic.

edit; I worded myself wrong. I wanted to say in the second paragraph that very detrimental warnings should be kept, especially DOXing a user or giving out personal information.

edit2: after reading Chearful ‘s response, they put this better than I did:

All warnings should expire. And it should be backdated to all existing warnings too (especially on rules that are no longer rules - never understood that one).

It's been suggested countless times. It is clearly what the community wants. If MCM is not implementing this, then it is not acting in the interests of the community. The community will move elsewhere once it realises that the administration does not care. This suggestion currently sits at 50 agrees in less than 24 hours. That should say a lot to the administration reading this.

As said in the original post, yes - people do make mistakes. Why should they pay for their mistakes 3+ years on? Especially on minor (<=10 points) stuff. It's like the daily MCM downtime we had a few years back or the crazy backlog of support/scam reports. We was (albeit forced) to forgive MCM for these things. Isn't it right that MCM forgives the community - the very community that the forum depends on to be successful? Like yes, stuff like DOXing, scamming (incl. reselling w/ out rights etc) should remain unexpirable or otherwise bannable offences but there is no reason for minor mistakes made long ago to continue to be counted on a user's record. Many warnings issued to users, I'd argue, are made during the user's first few months of being on the site where they are still getting used to settling in. The staff team has never understood how to take a joke even when it is blindingly obvious and so yes, warnings really are issued falsely on the contrary to what the administration would like to think.

It's about time that the community was listened to and their ideas implemented. Rather than the staff team focusing on "how can we punish our users to make our community dissipate quicker than we can say 'punish the users'?", it should focus on "how can we give our community the best experience possible?"

 

[ShowUp]

As to what Justis has said, I agree that all warnings should have an expiry. To be fair and unbiased, I am not going to go into detail about my specific warnings.

Even if some of the larger ones, that aren't detrimental (like DOX, Reselling a Resource, etc.) should be expireable after 2-3 years time at most. People make dumb mistakes, but that shouldn't result in a permanent ban @ 75 points. (I have 18k Shoutbox messages, you think I won't slip up every once in a while? Violet with 16k can say the same- using this as an example and am not trying to be biased.

Appreciate any feedback on this topic.

I agree, I have gotten inexpiable warning points for creating multiple accounts for different projects I've owned and also because I thought that you were supposed to create a new account and like apply for the Business account status

 

[HCC]

I can most definitely agree with this, I have received warning points from over a year now, and I feel that it is biased for members that spend years on the site to be constantly punished on where they make a living, in most cases. It is indeed one of the most execrable, demeaning, and misjudging rule.

-HCC

 

[MinecraftNinja]

Agreed

 

[Khafra]

I can most definitely agree with this, I have received warning points from over a year now, and I feel that it is biased for members that spend years on the site to be constantly punished on where they make a living, in most cases. It is indeed one of the most execrable, demeaning, and misjudging rule.

-HCC

I have a warning from 2017, totally agree with this.

 

[Sparko]

Agree, when I was new I saw a lot of people asking for vouches for free services and I did the same. I got a warning about abusing the rep system and if someone looks at my profile they might think I did something severe such as false rep multiple people.

 

[Ally]

People make dumb mistakes, but that shouldn't result in a permanent ban @ 75 points.

Yeah, yeah the ones that don't expire make it really hard to not get banned (especially for "OGs").

Just don't forget that not all rule-breaking is a 'dumb mistake'. That's where the issue lies: people who intentionally break the rules and who will get off scot-free are the ones who ruin it for everyone.

 

[Blaze.]

100% agree. Whenever I first joined, I had no idea what was and wasn't allowed. I tried to buy an account from someone and we argued about price in DMs until the point where I didn't want to buy his account. He negged me for time wasting, so I trashed his thread. I said some things, and I got a lot of warning points for it.
https://gyazo.com/040266a437b51183b63b021baa62a4a2

Having 10 warning points that don't expire for being disrespectful (i.e calling something retarded, when I didn't know this forum was sensitive to stuff like that) a couple months ago when we've both moved on doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.

Make it so someone can appeal for stuff like this at least, like come on lol.

 

[moon10k]

i still have some from necroposting i think lol

 

[Joshua C]

As to what Justis has said, I agree that all warnings should have an expiry. To be fair and unbiased, I am not going to go into detail about my specific warnings.

Even if some of the larger ones, that aren't detrimental (like DOX, Reselling a Resource, etc.) should be expireable after 2-3 years time at most. People make dumb mistakes, but that shouldn't result in a permanent ban @ 75 points. (I have 18k Shoutbox messages, you think I won't slip up every once in a while? Violet with 16k can say the same- using this as an example and am not trying to be biased.

Appreciate any feedback on this topic. [/fa]

edit; I worded myself wrong. I wanted to say in the second paragraph that very detrimental warnings should be kept, especially DOXing a user or giving out personal information.

Honestly I agree, what I said in my suggestion as well that there shouldn’t a permanent banned at 75 points

 

[GabyTM]

Imagine I got 5 permanent points for "Creating alt accounts" because when I firstly joined the site I have asked a few past customers to create accounts and vouch for me. I have tried to come with proofs that each account it's a different person but ..

 

[pet]

See....we the community, the users of this forum want this change. The members are rule breakers on this forum, are people that affect us. If WE want this change, then why not let us have it.

I doubt anyone likes warning points that won't expire. Many people have done stupid things, and are now stuck in an awkward position cause they're literally @ death's door.

People change, and so should warning points

 

[Ivain]

Sure. Expiry time for warnings of 10 points or up: 3 years.

 

[Ally]

edit; I worded myself wrong. I wanted to say in the second paragraph that very detrimental warnings should be kept, especially DOXing a user or giving out personal information.

Doxing is a permanent ban regardless. "Very detrimental warnings" are a ban, such as, but not limited to: doxing, threatening, leaking, ban evading and scamming.

 

[Masons Monarch]

35 agrees and 0 disagrees, I bet they're still not gonna implement it.

 

[pet]

35 agrees and 0 disagrees, I bet they're still not gonna implement it.

If we show enough support, we'll get what we want. Afterall we're the users who use the site!

 

[Masons Monarch]

If we show enough support, we'll get what we want. Afterall we're the users who use the site!

Optimistic but I like it.

 

[Glove]

i have warnings from 2017 chatbox spamming, stupid

 

[Lotus]

Honestly I agree, what I said in my suggestion as well that there shouldn’t a permanent banned at 75 points

If you somehow have the ability to reach 75 warning points, it's honestly an impressive feat. It's a massive number. That means you need to break rule 1.6, for example, 15 times. You've caused enough harm to the community at that stage that you aren't worth keeping around.

 

[Maddy]

If you somehow have the ability to reach 75 warning points, it's honestly an impressive feat. It's a massive number. That means you need to break rule 1.6, for example, 15 times. You've caused enough harm to the community at that stage that you aren't worth keeping around.

Or you can sell 4x $15 Netflix cards for 20 points each