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He is the Hitler of SB, bans people left and right if they attempt to argue with him, creates his own rules & uses the "obey staff" (wtf?) rule to justify it.

This shit needs to stop.
 
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calling your content retarded isnt disrecpectful as i stated im not calling you retarded, just you are posting things that have not sense and keep annoying trying to get out the job of a guy, who just gets paid to get his job.

You would like any day go to your future job and say, RIAZ ITS WRITING IN THIS PAPERS BAD, HE FORGOT 1 LETTER, KICK HIM PLEASE KICK HIM, and go around the city to get you kicked? i dont think so
1. First paragraph, I never said that you directly said I was a retard. But you called my opinon retarded. Gruss also does not get paid.
2. Second paragraph does not make any sense at all, do you even english?
Anyways, whatever you implied with "future job" I have a job, thanks.
 

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He literally gave me 10 warning points and suspended me for three days because I linked a whois page. A fucking whois page.
 

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I haven't run into any trouble with Gruss and honestly have no opinion of my own. However, if what is being said about him is factual, no staff member should bring emotion or personal opinion into making decisions. If this is what he is doing he should be demoted.
 

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I don't think the issue is with Gruss.

It seems to me like staff decided that warnings should be worth more points as part of some sort of group decision, as we now see people receiving large 5 point warnings or even 10 point warnings for things in the past that would have only received 1-3 warning points. I myself recently received five warning points for a post that, in my genuine opinion, broke zero rules. There's been a huge crackdown on rule-breaking on the site and I don't really understand the reason why.

I think that the rules need to be loosened up so that people are able to post on this forum or talk in the shoutbox without fear of randomly receiving 5-10 warning points and immediately getting suspended. I think that the sheer amount of warning points people are receiving for their warnings needs to be *drastically* reduced, as obviously someone receiving 10 warning points is just obscene.

My understanding of these warnings is that they are pre-defined by the administrators, so Gruss really has no say in how many points you get. He picks the reason for the warning and the pre-defined warning points assigned to that are what gets applied to you.

People are complaining about the wrong thing and are focusing their anger on the wrong person. People should be angry at the people at the top of this website who stopped giving a shit about it, rather than being angry at the people who are enforcing the rules and policies those people at the top decided.
 

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I don't think the issue is with Gruss.

It seems to me like staff decided that warnings should be worth more points as part of some sort of group decision, as we now see people receiving large 5 point warnings or even 10 point warnings for things in the past that would have only received 1-3 warning points. I myself recently received five warning points for a post that, in my genuine opinion, broke zero rules. There's been a huge crackdown on rule-breaking on the site and I don't really understand the reason why.

I think that the rules need to be loosened up so that people are able to post on this forum or talk in the shoutbox without fear of randomly receiving 5-10 warning points and immediately getting suspended. I think that the sheer amount of warning points people are receiving for their warnings needs to be *drastically* reduced, as obviously someone receiving 10 warning points is just obscene.

My understanding of these warnings is that they are pre-defined by the administrators, so Gruss really has no say in how many points you get. He picks the reason for the warning and the pre-defined warning points assigned to that are what gets applied to you.

People are complaining about the wrong thing and are focusing their anger on the wrong person. People should be angry at the people at the top of this website who stopped giving a shit about it, rather than being angry at the people who are enforcing the rules and policies those people at the top decided.
You know what rule needs to be removed? The no arguing with staff rule. It's been abused beyond belief by the staff team. Whether their losing an argument or inciting an argument they use this rule as a scapegoat to distribute warnings and silence users.
 

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Start a conversation with Mick, with evidence and action will be taken - it's as simple as that.
LMAO you think Mick would do anything??????? If he would even reply he would tell you to make a ticket.

Also, there's a staff reports section under the support tickets thing. Most likely the user you are reporting is going to reply though and possibly close it, cause ya know..
 

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I don't know if this would make me biased - but Gruss is a friend and employer of mine - and he is a great guy. From what I've heard he does his job and he does it rather agressively. I don't think it is his fault at all, and he shouldn't get demoted for it. The rules around MCM are just a tad bit tighter than they used to be, and chatbox rules are rather specific.

I've heard talk of him abusing his powers for banning people he just doesn't like - and if that is happening I believe that it is clear he should be demoted. I don't really think this is the case. People are being banned by him for the right reasons, but it is stressed on that he has abused his powers and banned people for no reason each time.

I don't know much about this whole deal...
 

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:D[DOUBLEPOST=1459005875][/DOUBLEPOST]Zap Zeiyon montyburly please elaborate of why you disagree.
Its simple why I disagree,
He's a cool dude doing his job.
There are NO FACTS, stating he is doing something wrong, but instead they are all opinions.
I have seen him in SB and he does give verbal warnings before the acctual ones.
Also, next time any of the mods warn you, make a thread about how they should be demoted, whith again opinions.
Also, he isnt the hitler of the SB, he is the mod of the SB, there is always those people who are butthurt about a leader, ALWAYS!
No leader in Existence, hasnt gotten some people hate him. There is always that group.
 

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He fucking bans me for saying "Im going to scam someone brb!!!" obviously it was a joke and the messages that were said before it lead up to me saying that and he knew it was joke, Demote Gruss He's awful

I'll probably be banned for saying this LMFAO
You threatened to scam and he took appropriate action and you think he should be demoted for that? Even if you're joking, that's a serious matter.
 

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Also I would like to add.
I think the reason also may be that he is one of the most active SB Mods.
Meaning that he would possibly give the most warnings.
Adding to that would mean most people are butthurt.
Ever heard of "Learn from your mistakes" guys?
 
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