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Howdy everyone,

I have played Factions back in the golden days and recently felt like creating a new, non-Pay-2-Win Factions server is something I should give a try - the server likely wouldn't be profitable, but I don't mind taking losses.

To get some input I would like to ask you, the community, and fellow Factions players, for assistance. All I'm asking for is some input regarding what you dislike about modern Factions servers, what you would love to see, and what's, for you personally, the biggest turn-off when it comes to Factions servers.

I appreciate the input and your time, have a great day and stay healthy everyone!

Kind regards,
Zero
 
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I dont like the strict cannoning rules, such as raid timers, etc.
 

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I don't like how bases are so easy to get.
Genbuckets, Trench Pickaxes and stuff like that should not be given right off the bat.
Superflat worlds are nice to make bases and stuff but makes combat almost so boring with no traps etc.
Factions should not be given a billion things off the start because any player who is not in a big
Faction or has a lot of money basically cannot win.
 

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How about the runtime of each map? Back when I played resets were rare, usually every few months.
Do y'all think it should go back to actual long-term grinding?
 

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Yeah, that would be nice, but you'll have to maintain a high amount of players to run a good server, as well as making it not pay-2-win.
 

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How about the runtime of each map? Back when I played resets were rare, usually every few months.
Do y'all think it should go back to actual long-term grinding?
Id say the games should last longer to the extent that raiding isnt as easy as it is now. Right now a faction gets raided and they quit. And therefore maps realistically only last a few weeks. But again maps shouldnt last ages either as they do also get boring. Id say 1-2 month maps would be good.
 

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Yeah, that would be nice, but you'll have to maintain a high amount of players to run a good server, as well as making it not pay-2-win.
I'm currently in the talks with multiple streamers having 300+ concurrent viewers, and making things not Pay-2-Win is my specialty ;)
 

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Howdy everyone,

I have played Factions back in the golden days and recently felt like creating a new, non-Pay-2-Win Factions server is something I should give a try - the server likely wouldn't be profitable, but I don't mind taking losses.

To get some input I would like to ask you, the community, and fellow Factions players, for assistance. All I'm asking for is some input regarding what you dislike about modern Factions servers, what you would love to see, and what's, for you personally, the biggest turn-off when it comes to Factions servers.

I appreciate the input and your time, have a great day and stay healthy everyone!

Kind regards,
Zero

I have had a few ideas on how to bring back a balanced style of factions since I feel as if it is so easy to get overpowered and it can be done so quickly. I wanted to start a server like this but it is almost impossible due to the fact factions want big payouts and don’t play for the fun of it anymore. Sad to see it, as I started playing Minecraft back in 2014-2015 by playing this OG style of factions - main reason I like the game in all honesty.

If you need any help or want some ideas, add me on Discord: TacoGuy#8152
 

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i hate that people have fly, that shit makes running away and getting away with raids a tad bit easier

i also hate that invis doesn't work on some servers....
 

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If some or most of these awesome ideas get implemented to your factions server in the future I would LOVE to play factions again :D
I listen to the community, if a feature makes sense and is widely requested I won't hold it back :tup:[DOUBLEPOST=1621019381][/DOUBLEPOST]Mikel I know you've been waiting for this
 
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I past years playing on that old cool faction servers & I miss them, that were really good times.

I personally think, to remail into old style factions using same plugins that were only existing in that times, and no new features plugins,
Just simple.
 

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Trust me I’ve talked about it with many other fellow factions owners and sadly this just isn’t possible, back then the same cannon tech didn’t exist, mods like schematica, breadcrumbs, and more didn’t exist. Realistically, if you wanted to do this you would need to disabled all that but then the cannons would destroy any defenders, and if you limit how you can get gen buckets it wouldn’t even be fair, it would be like wanting to fight the revolutionary war but one side has modern guns[DOUBLEPOST=1621026780][/DOUBLEPOST]
Trust me I’ve talked about it with many other fellow factions owners and sadly this just isn’t possible, back then the same cannon tech didn’t exist, mods like schematica, breadcrumbs, and more didn’t exist. Realistically, if you wanted to do this you would need to disabled all that but then the cannons would destroy any defenders, and if you limit how you can get gen buckets it wouldn’t even be fair, it would be like wanting to fight the revolutionary war but one side has modern guns
Not to trash or anything trust me if you somehow managed it I would play but there’s just too many problems to overcome[DOUBLEPOST=1621026816][/DOUBLEPOST]
Trust me I’ve talked about it with many other fellow factions owners and sadly this just isn’t possible, back then the same cannon tech didn’t exist, mods like schematica, breadcrumbs, and more didn’t exist. Realistically, if you wanted to do this you would need to disabled all that but then the cannons would destroy any defenders, and if you limit how you can get gen buckets it wouldn’t even be fair, it would be like wanting to fight the revolutionary war but one side has modern guns[DOUBLEPOST=1621026780][/DOUBLEPOST]
Not to trash or anything trust me if you somehow managed it I would play but there’s just too many problems to overcome
This also ignores the change in how easy it is to hack, and having owner servers and played for a while basically everyone hacks lol
 
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i dislike printer and schematics

That's why my faction server won't have them. Schematics- I mean mean layout only but no auto pasting or anything.

Genbuckets- Yes but pretty expensive.[DOUBLEPOST=1621027544][/DOUBLEPOST]
i hate that people have fly, that shit makes running away and getting away with raids a tad bit easier

i also hate that invis doesn't work on some servers....

I get the whole flight thing for factions but I think if you limit it to 'any rank can fly in their own claim land'
'only top ranks' and 'maybe a limited time fly booster thing' is fine. Personally citrus will have the any rank can fly in their own land, and top ranks can fly. But I'm unsure of limited time things like flight, fix, stuff like that for the non-ranks or low ranks.

And if invisible potions worked then I'd 100% make it a thing on Citrus. Invisible raiding would be fun, but I'd also probably make it so you can't be invisible while you fly. So you'd have to be on ground in order to stay invisible; but if you wanted to fly you could but it would remove the potion affect.
 
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Trust me I’ve talked about it with many other fellow factions owners and sadly this just isn’t possible, back then the same cannon tech didn’t exist, mods like schematica, breadcrumbs, and more didn’t exist. Realistically, if you wanted to do this you would need to disabled all that but then the cannons would destroy any defenders, and if you limit how you can get gen buckets it wouldn’t even be fair, it would be like wanting to fight the revolutionary war but one side has modern guns[DOUBLEPOST=1621026780][/DOUBLEPOST]
Not to trash or anything trust me if you somehow managed it I would play but there’s just too many problems to overcome[DOUBLEPOST=1621026816][/DOUBLEPOST]
This also ignores the change in how easy it is to hack, and having owner servers and played for a while basically everyone hacks lol
I agree with the points you made, the only way to find out whether it works is by giving it a try. :tup:
Every problem has a solution, you only have to search for one. Thank you for the input, appreciate it! <3
 

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How about the runtime of each map? Back when I played resets were rare, usually every few months.
Do y'all think it should go back to actual long-term grinding?
I love the longer term faction servers.
It was better when it was like 8-9+ months until reset. It gives plenty of time to meet and talk with people, make sets, buy stuff in game and actually have it for a while, that sort of thing.
Even if you make it non-p2w it would be hard to keep up with keeping people on the server. Factions is probably one of the hardest type servers to run due to the toxic player base 90% of the time, constant threat of other faction server owners wanting to get into the team in order to try to destroy your server, etc. I've seen it first hand with old Fantasycloud vs Jurassicpvp vs Stellarpvp/Enchantsmc/whatever name that server had over the 100+ times it was resold, remade, revamped (p2w as hell and one of the most corrupt)[DOUBLEPOST=1621028748][/DOUBLEPOST]
I don't like how bases are so easy to get.
Genbuckets, Trench Pickaxes and stuff like that should not be given right off the bat.
Superflat worlds are nice to make bases and stuff but makes combat almost so boring with no traps etc.
Factions should not be given a billion things off the start because any player who is not in a big
Faction or has a lot of money basically cannot win.
That's why the items should be a lot rarer or more expensive.
such as genbuckets costing a good bit per placement, or trench pickaxes/blast pickaxes being super rare or of high tier rewards/drops at least for the first couple weeks of the servers startup.
 
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Another thing that ruined factions for me was the over the top custom enchants, and the ease of getting armour through kits and such. There should be a bigger grind to getting these.
 
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