Should schools stay open during lockdown?

[EdenCraftMC]

have you read this thread and realized you are actually hurting people by doing this (to some extent at least?

Its true that some people are missing out, but until this situation is solved children will continue to get sick. Some towns arent as effected as others but as a personally new york citizen i have to say if you dont wear a mask you WILL get symptoms of a flu

 

[Scroll32]

Its true that some people are missing out, but until this situation is solved children will continue to get sick. Some towns arent as effected as others but as a personally new york citizen i have to say if you dont wear a mask you WILL get symptoms of a flu

I think that’s where we differ. I agree that New York should be wearing masks and not be going to school, or at bare minimum half and half or something. I am just against lockdowns, and think it should be different regulations in different states. As far as kids getting sick, that happens with normal school and we didn’t shut it down, and the mortality rate for kids with covid is almost no existent (excluding if you have pre existing health conditions).

 

[Day]

Whoever made this thread just opened up Hell's gates. LOL.

In all seriousness, I think schools being opened is both a good thing and a bad thing. Would you open stores or businesses? What makes a school different from a business being closed? Doesn't it depend on the business and what they're doing? In the same regard, should schools perhaps get the same treatment? I think there are some variables that we haven't accounted for, which makes this a difficult all-or-nothing scenario. It's an interesting take, but I'm open to other opinions. I mean this all with respect!


I felt need to elaborate a bit clearer;
If schools have the tools, safety precautions, and take proactive measures, should they be able to open, with let's say, a student-limit of how many are in the building?

Isn't this the same as a restaurant that serves you food which could be a source of coronavirus, God forbid they didn't sneeze, spit, or vomit on your food?

In the same regard, a school could be avoiding all procedures, encouraging germs to repopulate, bringing tens of thousands of students back to college campuses. Is this a great idea in this aspect? Can't say it is or isn't, that's up to you.


Another dynamic would be a governmental-owned sector, and a private-owned sector- they both have different agendas.

A business, being locally owned, or more massive in scale, seek to earn a profit, especially in localities where they might not have as much to invest.

A school's purpose is a completely different avenue, being to follow governmental legislation to ordain that every student in that state receives the education that they deserve.


Best,
David

 

[ZJump]

Whoever made this thread just opened up Hell's gates. LOL.

In all seriousness, I think schools being opened is both a good thing and a bad thing. Would you open stores or businesses? What makes a school different from a business being closed? Doesn't it depend on the business and what they're doing? In the same regard, should schools perhaps get the same treatment? I think there are some variables that we haven't accounted for, which makes this a difficult all-or-nothing scenario. It's an interesting take, but I'm open to other opinions. I mean this all with respect!


I felt need to elaborate a bit clearer;
If schools have the tools, safety precautions, and take proactive measures, should they be able to open, with let's say, a student-limit of how many are in the building?

Isn't this the same as a restaurant that serves you food which could be a source of coronavirus, God forbid they didn't sneeze, spit, or vomit on your food?

In the same regard, a school could be avoiding all procedures, encouraging germs to repopulate, bringing tens of thousands of students back to college campuses. Is this a great idea in this aspect? Can't say it is or isn't, that's up to you.


Best,
David

I agree with your post, and I find it funny that some people are saying that their school is ok being open, for us they don't tell us even if we have had cases until a week or so after.

My school is fairly large and we have had cases come every week even with a hybrid where only 50% go to school while 50% stay home, meaning around 6-7 students each class. Mask wearing is mandatory, which I like to see, and social distancing is too. IMO America needs to mandate mask wearing, recommending it hasn't done shit. It's worked well in scandanavian countries because people there actually follow recommendations for the most part, but in America very few heed the recommendations that are put out.[DOUBLEPOST=1604329241][/DOUBLEPOST]

I think that’s where we differ. I agree that New York should be wearing masks and not be going to school, or at bare minimum half and half or something. I am just against lockdowns, and think it should be different regulations in different states. As far as kids getting sick, that happens with normal school and we didn’t shut it down, and the mortality rate for kids with covid is almost no existent (excluding if you have pre existing health conditions).

This isn't a normal flu though. It's much worse and affects EVERYONE. Kids get sick, they don't get any health issues or very few and very few die from it, but they can easily pass it onto their parents eg who pass it onto older folk who as a result end up dead. It's a controversial topic for sure and I don't think that lockdowns are good but they have worked where I live. As Biden said, we need more than ever to listen to the experts:
“So if the scientists say shut it down?” asked ABC’s David Muir.

“I would shut it down,” Biden responded. “I would listen to the scientists.”

Trump's claims about him wanting to lock it down for years are crazy to say the least.

 

[Day]

I agree with your post, and I find it funny that some people are saying that their school is ok being open, for us they don't tell us even if we have had cases until a week or so after.

My school is fairly large and we have had cases come every week even with a hybrid where only 50% go to school while 50% stay home, meaning around 6-7 students each class. Mask wearing is mandatory, which I like to see, and social distancing is too. IMO America needs to mandate mask wearing, recommending it hasn't done shit. It's worked well in scandanavian countries because people there actually follow recommendations for the most part, but in America very few heed the recommendations that are put out.

I definitely see where you're coming from. I approach this conflict with a more centrist view, because ideally, I'd like to see schools opened up myself, but I would want it to be done correctly. I lean toward the GOP, but overall, I'd say I try to see things pretty evenly as far as political bias.

As for what you said about a school having to go hybrid, I totally understand the cases despite the hybrid set-up becoming an issue. A local college in my area had the same issue within a week of them returning to campus. It was not a great idea, at least with the precautions they had in place. Does that mean other precautions wouldn't work though? They could very well decrease the margin of the cases with a better setup.

As for mandating masks, I respectfully lean toward disagreeing with you in that regard, but I totally see your perspective, and I would understand why that could be an applicable thing, and potentially an improvement in your eyes. (This is the thing is that we can disagree without becoming enemies, which the world has definitely started to neglect.)

I think mandating masks could infringe on some principles set in stone via the Constitution, which is my personal issue with it. Does this mean I don't wear a mask in public? Of course not. I always try to wear a mask, especially when I'm around others that are sensitive about it.

I definitely think this problem relates a lot to solving a Rubix cube, where, if you solve one side, you unsolve another, and only the correct algorithms will truly end the crisis that we're in. The algorithm being, well, the vaccine, precautions, etc.

All the best, and with kind regards,
David

 

[Yoda]

I take the libertarian approach: lockdown the vulnerable and let everybody else get it, average age to die from covid is 84. We'll all be fine everyone's just being total snowflakes.

Biosecuring only the vulnerable is difficult but feasible if people are 'sensible', and locking down the entire nation operates on that premise too.

There's been a suicide a day now from young people suffering at university and I genuinely fear for the next four weeks in the UK as I know people are hurting. Where do we draw a line between protecting the already vulnerable and protecting the country's future demographics and economy.

That isn't how freedom works. It's all or nothing you can't section off a % of the people and say you aren't fit to know what you want to do therefore the government is going to stop you.

It might work in the UK but not in the US

No negotiation necessary. Children are the future. Protection>Freedom

100% agree children are the future, but no will not let some random 500 miles away decide what's best for my family or others.

First of all, do you actually believe anyone in the government cares about you? The reason Trump was elected is people were tired of the "politicians" that would do whatever they want as long as they keep power and make money. In the first few years of Trumps term, he was "attacked" by most of the media for things made up by the democratic party. Most of the things he was said to of done were done by the other party.

Trump is even more of an idiot LOL. You would expect the american people to figure this out and realize, but I guess not. Also isn't it funny theres more republicans now leaning towards the democratic side then the other way around??

Well most of the people who are brainwashed are white (more like white washed), and have never worried about certain things in their life that minorities have to worry about.

K snowflake xD

Brainwashed is voting for the same party for 40 years and expecting them to help you when all they have done is turn the black community into slums and make those "minority" community worse off.


For example, the Asian community had about the same introduction into American Culture. They were brought here and paid awful wages to do some of the most dangerous jobs at the time. Not only that they were also rounded up and put into camps during WWII.

However, with there work ethic they are now the most successful culture/race in the US

There is somethings wrong with black communities but it isn't the White man who is putting you down. The fact I can walk through my neighborhood and not see trash thrown on the street is because of the care and rules regulated by the HOA.

I don't like either, but I rather have biden as President then have another 4 years with trump.[DOUBLEPOST=1604288958][/DOUBLEPOST]
Trump is even more of an idiot LOL. You would expect the american people to figure this out and realize, but I guess not. Also isn't it funny theres more republicans now leaning towards the democratic side then the other way around??[DOUBLEPOST=1604288977][/DOUBLEPOST]Common sense isn't so common :8

What would the American people need to figure out?

Just listen to Biden speak no one is happy to vote for Biden only reason they would is because of the "Resist Moment" Hilary started when she lost the election.

From what I see Trump might not be the nicest or PC or care about your feeling but honestly no one does.

Trump went into office to do a job and that is what he has done.
Just because you like the BBC here is the things he has promised and delivered.
BBC What has Trump Delivered

Trump said he would fix the VA which he has done great things to fix.
Trump said he would Build a wall which he is doing.
Trump said he will drain the swamp... Look at what he has done with Hunter Biden.
Trump said he would have Tax cuts which he has delivered
Trump filled Judges spots
Bombing ISIS Which he did
Moved Isreal Embassy
Cutting regulations

 

[TENE]

That isn't how freedom works. It's all or nothing you can't section off a % of the people and say you aren't fit to know what you want to do therefore the government is going to stop you.

It might work in the UK but not in the US




100% agree children are the future, but no will not let some random 500 miles away decide what's best for my family or others.

First of all, do you actually believe anyone in the government cares about you? The reason Trump was elected is people were tired of the "politicians" that would do whatever they want as long as they keep power and make money. In the first few years of Trumps term, he was "attacked" by most of the media for things made up by the democratic party. Most of the things he was said to of done were done by the other party.




K snowflake xD

Brainwashed is voting for the same party for 40 years and expecting them to help you when all they have done is turn the black community into slums and make those "minority" community worse off.


For example, the Asian community had about the same introduction into American Culture. They were brought here and paid awful wages to do some of the most dangerous jobs at the time. Not only that they were also rounded up and put into camps during WWII.

However, with there work ethic they are now the most successful culture/race in the US

There is somethings wrong with black communities but it isn't the White man who is putting you down. The fact I can walk through my neighborhood and not see trash thrown on the street is because of the care and rules regulated by the HOA.



What would the American people need to figure out?

Just listen to Biden speak no one is happy to vote for Biden only reason they would is because of the "Resist Moment" Hilary started when she lost the election.

From what I see Trump might not be the nicest or PC or care about your feeling but honestly no one does.

Trump went into office to do a job and that is what he has done.
Just because you like the BBC here is the things he has promised and delivered.
BBC What has Trump Delivered

Trump said he would fix the VA which he has done great things to fix.
Trump said he would Build a wall which he is doing.
Trump said he will drain the swamp... Look at what he has done with Hunter Biden.
Trump said he would have Tax cuts which he has delivered
Trump filled Judges spots
Bombing ISIS Which he did
Moved Isreal Embassy
Cutting regulations

He built a wall that did? It did nothing waste of tax payers money it prevents nothing a promotes racism. (If you can't see how it promotes racism and hate you must be mad dumb) Moving the Embassy in no way benefited the Jewish people there many of them didn't like that, but of course it benefited the evangelicals. Peace with the middle east but yet bombs isis I don't see peace there. We were also already in war before his presidency so he's just adding on. The Tax Cuts has benefitted the rich more then the middle class. Most of these are very controversial and don't benefit most of the American people. Mostly what Trump has delivered has fucked up a lot of shit.

 

[Ted]

He built a wall that did? It did nothing waste of tax payers money it prevents nothing a promotes racism. (If you can't see how it promotes racism and hate you must be mad dumb) Moving the Embassy in no way benefited the Jewish people there many of them didn't like that, but of course it benefited the evangelicals. Peace with the middle east but yet bombs isis I don't see peace there. We were also already in war before his presidency so he's just adding on. The Tax Cuts has benefitted the rich more then the middle class. Most of these are very controversial and don't benefit most of the American people. Mostly what Trump has delivered has fucked up a lot of shit.

So you're saying we should've kept the terrorist organization ISIS?

 

[TENE]

So you're saying we should've kept the terrorist organization ISIS?

NO NO NO THATS NOT WHAT I MEANT LOL.

 

[Yoda]

He built a wall that did? It did nothing waste of tax payers money it prevents nothing a promotes racism. (If you can't see how it promotes racism and hate you must be mad dumb) Moving the Embassy in no way benefited the Jewish people there many of them didn't like that, but of course it benefited the evangelicals. Peace with the middle east but yet bombs isis I don't see peace there. We were also already in war before his presidency so he's just adding on. The Tax Cuts has benefitted the rich more then the middle class. Most of these are very controversial and don't benefit most of the American people. Mostly what Trump has delivered has fucked up a lot of shit.

Promotes racism by protecting our borders?

If the US is racist then so is Canada... Canada has more strict regulations on immigration than the US does. How can the US be racist when we take in most immigrants. It's a matter of security and fairness, it's not fair for the people in war-torn countries in the Middle East and other countries across the Atlantic that have to wait in a line when there are hundreds of thousands of people that cross the border illegally. It's also not racist to protect your borders. Many civilizations have erected walls to protect their way of life.

For the wall, he actually got money from multiple organizations and from taxes implemented against other countries. He was also able to divert 3.8+ billion in Pentagon funding due to the fact we were pulling out the military from countries.

Also what makes you think that Jews disapprove of Trump? This is very interesting since half of my family is Jewish? xD
Here is a random article but many of the people I know from Tennesee, Kentucky, New York, Texas actually like the fact that he has moved the Embassy... Again these were people of the Jewish faith which could also be described as the Jewish Culture.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/05/14/israel-trump-embassy-jerusalem-poll-218368

Trump bombed Qassem Suleimani in early 2020 whereas these peace deals in late 2020. Some countries only respond with the Stick.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/03/baghdad-airport-iraq-attack-deaths-iran-us-tensions
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...-trump-promoting-peace-stability-middle-east/

Regarding tax cuts, sorry but you can't cut taxes to the middle and lower class and not expect the rich to profit from it. They will always profit. The fact that Biden thinks he can tax people that make over 400k a year 50% and up is ridiculous the government sucks with money and yet people believe giving them more will help the "poor" xD.

My great grandfather came to America by himself from Sweden when he was 16 with 1,000. He learned the language and worked construction. By the time he was 27 he was a self-made millionaire. He raised his kids learning only English and joined the Melting pot which is the USA. In 2 generations the estate he built was almost all sold because 1 of his kids never went to college and ended up paying for all 4 of his kids and 10 of his grandkids to go to whatever college they wanted. My grandmother due to her being a woman was only given 1 300 acre property which is still in our family where her brother was given 10 thousand+ acres of land and royalties from the projects my great grandfather started.[DOUBLEPOST=1604335870][/DOUBLEPOST]Btw do you live in the US? If so what state?

 

[Cole]

Everyone in my school has iPads, they're a requirement for being in school. We are more than capable to do online learning yet we have around 5 new coronavirus cases every day and yet we're still open with minimal coronavirus restrictions.

 

[TENE]

Promotes racism by protecting our borders?

If the US is racist then so is Canada... Canada has more strict regulations on immigration than the US does. How can the US be racist when we take in most immigrants. It's a matter of security and fairness, it's not fair for the people in war-torn countries in the Middle East and other countries across the Atlantic that have to wait in a line when there are hundreds of thousands of people that cross the border illegally. It's also not racist to protect your borders. Many civilizations have erected walls to protect their way of life.

For the wall, he actually got money from multiple organizations and from taxes implemented against other countries. He was also able to divert 3.8+ billion in Pentagon funding due to the fact we were pulling out the military from countries.

Also what makes you think that Jews disapprove of Trump? This is very interesting since half of my family is Jewish? xD
Here is a random article but many of the people I know from Tennesee, Kentucky, New York, Texas actually like the fact that he has moved the Embassy... Again these were people of the Jewish faith which could also be described as the Jewish Culture.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/05/14/israel-trump-embassy-jerusalem-poll-218368

Trump bombed Qassem Suleimani in early 2020 whereas these peace deals in late 2020. Some countries only respond with the Stick.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/03/baghdad-airport-iraq-attack-deaths-iran-us-tensions
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...-trump-promoting-peace-stability-middle-east/

Regarding tax cuts, sorry but you can't cut taxes to the middle and lower class and not expect the rich to profit from it. They will always profit. The fact that Biden thinks he can tax people that make over 400k a year 50% and up is ridiculous the government sucks with money and yet people believe giving them more will help the "poor" xD.

My great grandfather came to America by himself from Sweden when he was 16 with 1,000. He learned the language and worked construction. By the time he was 27 he was a self-made millionaire. He raised his kids learning only English and joined the Melting pot which is the USA. In 2 generations the estate he built was almost all sold because 1 of his kids never went to college and ended up paying for all 4 of his kids and 10 of his grandkids to go to whatever college they wanted. My grandmother due to her being a woman was only given 1 300 acre property which is still in our family where her brother was given 10 thousand+ acres of land and royalties from the projects my great grandfather started.[DOUBLEPOST=1604335870][/DOUBLEPOST]Btw do you live in the US? If so what state?

In what way does it protect our borders. It's literally a campaign scheme. He was saying it protects us against "rapist mexicans" and cartels, and people trying to get into the US illegally. You realize a lot of people no longer cross the border like that correct? This isn't 1978 lmfao. Also I didn't say Jews disapprove of trump. A lot of Jewish people actually support him. I meant the people in near the Embassy didn't support it. Also Canadas minister didn't build a wall and say it's to keep out cartels, and rapist Mexicans lOl. In no way did I say it's racist to protect your borders. It's the way Trump went about it. He literally called Mexicans "rapists" and other crazy shit. When in reality the wall doesn't even work. Some parts of the wall have fell down and the wall is also pretty climbable. The wall is a complete waste of money. I live in California our politic views between California and Texas are way different. People are actually diverse and have good views in California. I don't think I can say that for Texas.

 

[Rahul.]

theres a petition on the gov website to close schools down while lockdown 2, has over 300k signatures

 

[ZJump]

Honestly it's sad that people are still trying to defend Trump, an asshole who doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself. If he cared so much why not pay more than 1000 dollars in taxes? Why not tell the american public that covid is a big deal when he knew about it in february instead of playing it down and letting thousands die? Why host superspreader events in which people, especially the elderly, can suffer from diseases such as hypothermia because of the insane cold while Trump gets to leave in his private jet? Why take down the ACA and propose something new but never implement it and have things be the same as they were before and EVEN WORSE where people without health insurance went up by 7.1 million? Why do republicans PROMOTE voter suppression through the blocking of bills for the counting of mail-in ballots postmarked before Election Day but which arrive up to three days after, as a result of pandemic-induced delays in mail delivery and why does Trump SUPPORT isis like anti biden supporters to commit crimes such as run people off the road just because they are part of the opposition? Why say that the economy is doing well when over 3.9 million jobs have been lost? And don't blame covid, he could have done a better job at handeling it and less jobs would have been lost.

Why, why, why! That seems to be the question yet people still vote for Trump and for the Republican Party....

 

[Yoda]

Honestly it's sad that people are still trying to defend Trump, an asshole who doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself. If he cared so much why not pay more than 1000 dollars in taxes? Why not tell the american public that covid is a big deal when he knew about it in february instead of playing it down and letting thousands die? Why host superspreader events in which people, especially the elderly, can suffer from diseases such as hypothermia because of the insane cold while Trump gets to leave in his private jet? Why take down the ACA and propose something new but never implement it and have things be the same as they were before and EVEN WORSE where people without health insurance went up by 7.1 million? Why do republicans PROMOTE voter suppression through the blocking of bills for the counting of mail-in ballots postmarked before Election Day but which arrive up to three days after, as a result of pandemic-induced delays in mail delivery and why does Trump SUPPORT isis like anti biden supporters to commit crimes such as run people off the road just because they are part of the opposition? Why say that the economy is doing well when over 3.9 million jobs have been lost? And don't blame covid, he could have done a better job at handeling it and less jobs would have been lost.

Why, why, why! That seems to be the question yet people still vote for Trump and for the Republican Party....

Don't think you understand how taxes work there are many types of taxes. The one the media is on about which is his income tax. Please tell me when income the president gets?

There is a difference between Absentee Ballots and Mail-In ballots. Absentee ballots are ballots requested by the voter. Mail-in ballots can just be sent to anyone.

However, I don't really care about the mail-in ballot "problem", I do understand where both sides are coming from.

Absentee Ballot vs Mail-In Ballot

 

[ZJump]

Don't think you understand how taxes work there are many types of taxes. The one the media is on about which is his income tax. Please tell me when income the president gets?

There is a difference between Absentee Ballots and Mail-In ballots. Absentee ballots are ballots requested by the voter. Mail-in ballots can just be sent to anyone.

However, I don't really care about the mail-in ballot "problem", I do understand where both sides are coming from.

Absentee Ballot vs Mail-In Ballot

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Although Mr. Trump donates his salary to the government, it is subject to income tax along with his other earnings. But because Mr. Trump’s overall income was negative, he did not owe regular income tax on any of it.

He was, however, still subject to the Alternative Minimum Tax, a parallel tax system that reduces the benefit of some deductions, preventing wealthy people from erasing their tax liability altogether. Most significantly, the A.M.T. formula disallowed $45 million in losses that Mr. Trump had carried over from prior years.

But tax laws gave him one more line on which to reduce the A.M.T. Mr. Trump had $22.7 million in General Business Credit, much of it carried forward from prior years, that he could apply. The credit is a smorgasbord of tax incentives and givebacks to business owners, and in Mr. Trump’s case they ranged from credits of $322,926 for Social Security and Medicare taxes paid on employee tips to at least $1.5 million related to rehabilitating the Old Post Office in Washington.

The business credit cannot be used to get a refund; it can only be applied against taxes owed. Mr. Trump had more than enough to cancel out his $7,435,857 tax bill. But on the Form 3800 for the General Business Credit, his accountants subtracted $750 from his allowable credit. Why they did that is not clear. But the result was a total federal income tax liability of $750.
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Have a read. If I understand correctly, he had more than enough to cancel out the tax bill, but only paid 750 from it. Of course he is a businessman and has accountants working for him, but as the president of the United States, or as the president of any country really, your primary goal should be to do something to benefit the society, and not look for easy ways to get out of paying large amounts of tax.

of course I could be wrong about this as I don't know much about economics but my other points stand still.

 

[Yoda]

"
Although Mr. Trump donates his salary to the government, it is subject to income tax along with his other earnings. But because Mr. Trump’s overall income was negative, he did not owe regular income tax on any of it.

He was, however, still subject to the Alternative Minimum Tax, a parallel tax system that reduces the benefit of some deductions, preventing wealthy people from erasing their tax liability altogether. Most significantly, the A.M.T. formula disallowed $45 million in losses that Mr. Trump had carried over from prior years.

But tax laws gave him one more line on which to reduce the A.M.T. Mr. Trump had $22.7 million in General Business Credit, much of it carried forward from prior years, that he could apply. The credit is a smorgasbord of tax incentives and givebacks to business owners, and in Mr. Trump’s case they ranged from credits of $322,926 for Social Security and Medicare taxes paid on employee tips to at least $1.5 million related to rehabilitating the Old Post Office in Washington.

The business credit cannot be used to get a refund; it can only be applied against taxes owed. Mr. Trump had more than enough to cancel out his $7,435,857 tax bill. But on the Form 3800 for the General Business Credit, his accountants subtracted $750 from his allowable credit. Why they did that is not clear. But the result was a total federal income tax liability of $750.
"

Have a read. If I understand correctly, he had more than enough to cancel out the tax bill, but only paid 750 from it. Of course he is a businessman and has accountants working for him, but as the president of the United States, or as the president of any country really, your primary goal should be to do something to benefit the society, and not look for easy ways to get out of paying large amounts of tax.

of course I could be wrong about this as I don't know much about economics but my other points stand still.

So how much do you believe the rich should pay in taxes? 25%,50%, 75%? Where do you draw the line? The rich use loopholes that everyone else can use the fact is they are able to pay accountants to get them the best from their money.


In addition, if you tax these people it won't help anyone because they all have the money to move out of the US so in the end you just ruin the economy and move business overseas.

Along with that, it's also illegal that Trump's taxes were leaked xD

 

[ZJump]

So how much do you believe the rich should pay in taxes? 25%,50%, 75%? Where do you draw the line? The rich use loopholes that everyone else can use the fact is they are able to pay accountants to get them the best from their money.


In addition, if you tax these people it won't help anyone because they all have the money to move out of the US so in the end you just ruin the economy and move business overseas.

Bruh.

If you haven't realized, this type of progressive taxation system exists around the world and works. In Finland for example, there is a system which taxes the rich much more than the less rich, and as a result healthcare, university, school are all free. Not saying this is the way that American could go, but rich people stay in these countries because although they pay more tax, they still get benefits.

Right now, economic inequality is so bad in the US that the top 1% make more than 39 times that of the bottom 90%, which is insane to say the very least. What is being done as of now to reduce this inequality? Very little. If you wanna talk about it being bad for the economy then consider the fact that over 61% of americans say that there's too much inequality, which leads to unstable markets potentially.

 

[I_Luv_Cowz]

factcheck.org/2020/10/trumps-numbers-preelection-update/[DOUBLEPOST=1604299046][/DOUBLEPOST]Ye

Umm, those numbers are because of a pandemic Trump is not responsible for. The Chinese communist party & World Health Organization caused the virus to get this out of hand, Trump was very proactive in his response (Like the travel ban on china that biden called "xenophobic") + Biden's COVID-19 plan is almost an exact copy of Trump's plan.

We need to let Trump finish the job & get us out of this pandemic, switching presidents in the middle of this would be a disaster.
Obama/Biden administration's handling of the swine flu was awful, what makes you think Biden can handle COVID properly?