Abortion Should Be Illegal

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Then if you looked at the comment I quoted, I was surely replying to the guy who said the mother's life should be ruined because she was raped.

It is punishing the child. I can't believe you don't think denying a child life is a punishment. And by the way, children feel pain very early in development.
 

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Actually the earth does have a population problem. I am not saying this is a reason for abortion as having those babies wouldn’t make a difference. The only reason we don’t see the current population count as a problem is because of how many people are in poverty. I do not remember what the exact number was but if everyone on the earth had the same life as the average American the world would only be able to sustain around 1.5 billion or something.

Provide a source. This claim is unsubstantiated.
 

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Anyone ever watched Ben Shapiro? He talks about the issue of abortions. Maybe check him out? Would post a link but I am not sure if thats against the rules or not
 

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Anyone ever watched Ben Shapiro? He talks about the issue of abortions. Maybe check him out? Would post a link but I am not sure if thats against the rules or not
Links are only disallowed if they link to another market.
 

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Anyone ever watched Ben Shapiro? He talks about the issue of abortions. Maybe check him out? Would post a link but I am not sure if thats against the rules or not
Yeah, been to a few of his talks and asked him some questions. Seems like a pretty cool guy.
 

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Ben Shapiro really isn‘t a good source on a lot of things. At least not the only source. You should always try to balance out your sources

So if you are against aborting even rape children how is that not punishing the mother? She has to go through 9 months of pregnancy, which means she has to change her life a lot during this time.
So how do you wanna force her to keep the baby and be a good pregnant woman? Because in every case it is either her or the baby. And that‘s why some people are for aborting since they value the life, free will and body of the mother higher than the babies.
 

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Ben Shapiro really isn‘t a good source on a lot of things. At least not the only source. You should always try to balance out your sources

So if you are against aborting even rape children how is that not punishing the mother? She has to go through 9 months of pregnancy, which means she has to change her life a lot during this time.
So how do you wanna force her to keep the baby and be a good pregnant woman? Because in every case it is either her or the baby. And that‘s why some people are for aborting since they value the life, free will and body of the mother higher than the babies.
Rape is terrible but an exception for rape will lead to everyone saying they were raped.
 

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Rape is terrible but an exception for rape will lead to everyone saying they were raped.
Well that is a completely baseless claim.
Do you even know how hard it is to proof a rape?
Dna an sperm just doesn’t magically appear.
If you make it extra hard make it mandatory to press charges. (Even tho this would be a punch in the face for a lot of rape victims)
 

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Well that is a completely baseless claim.
Do you even know how hard it is to proof a rape?
Dna an sperm just doesn’t magically appear.
If you make it extra hard make it mandatory to press charges. (Even tho this would be a punch in the face for a lot of rape victims)
Let me clarify: what you are saying is that people should have to get tested with a rape kit in order to get an abortion? If so, rape kits only work for a very short time after sex. In this timespan people could just use Plan B, which I fully support as it's before conception. (Most people don't know this, but conception takes several days. The sperm has to go through many chemical changes before being implanted in the egg.)
 

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Touches on rape, incest and and other such arguments etc[DOUBLEPOST=1567894428][/DOUBLEPOST]As a personal opinion, I really pity girls who are victims of rape but even in the cases of rape the resulting baby is STILL a human. No less than all the other planned babies.
 
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Let me clarify: what you are saying is that people should have to get tested with a rape kit in order to get an abortion? If so, rape kits only work for a very short time after sex. In this timespan people could just use Plan B, which I fully support as it's before conception. (Most people don't know this, but conception takes several days. The sperm has to go through many chemical changes before being implanted in the egg.)
I am saying your argument of everybody pretending to be raped to get an abortion is wrong since you could make it mandatory to have to get tested for rape.
(This completely misses the point tho that a policy like this is not good for rape victims)

Also conception only takes multiple days depending on how you define conception:
- Male and female genetical code mix and create the unique baby. (24h)
- The egg implants itself into the uterus (6 days)
 

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Well that is a completely baseless claim.
Do you even know how hard it is to proof a rape?
Dna an sperm just doesn’t magically appear.
If you make it extra hard make it mandatory to press charges. (Even tho this would be a punch in the face for a lot of rape victims)

A majority of rape claims are false. They don't care.
 
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